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Old September 19th 08, 05:40 PM
Sir William Sir William is offline
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Hello folks,

I notice there have been some previous thoughts about four-colour pencils...please forgive me if I am going over old ground.

I have a pencil marked "FOUR HUE" "Made in England"..with spare coloured leads in the barrel...and the mechanism strikes me as being both clever and unusual.

If you turn the top of the pencil it works like an ordinary propelling pencil - moving the lead in and out but - if you fully withdraw the lead and then continuing turning, the mechanism clicks and will then produce a different coloured lead. You can do this sequencially and produce the four different colours - each of which will operate as a normal propelling pencil.

There is no other name or mark on the pencil, which is chrome finish and machine patterned in alternating panels.

Can anyone enlighten me about this unusual pencil (if indeed it is unusual). Age, maker, value etc. I would be most grateful

Thanks in anticipation.

William
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Old September 20th 08, 02:28 AM posted to alt.collecting.pens-pencils
Richard Wright
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:40:58 +0100, Sir William
wrote:


Hello folks,

I notice there have been some previous thoughts about four-colour
pencils...please forgive me if I am going over old ground.

I have a pencil marked "FOUR HUE" "Made in England"..with spare
coloured leads in the barrel...and the mechanism strikes me as being
both clever and unusual.

If you turn the top of the pencil it works like an ordinary propelling
pencil - moving the lead in and out but - if you fully withdraw the
lead and then continuing turning, the mechanism clicks and will then
produce a different coloured lead. You can do this sequencially and
produce the four different colours - each of which will operate as a
normal propelling pencil.

There is no other name or mark on the pencil, which is chrome finish
and machine patterned in alternating panels.

Can anyone enlighten me about this unusual pencil (if indeed it is
unusual). Age, maker, value etc. I would be most grateful

Thanks in anticipation.

William


Guard your Four Hue. You have a treasure.

You are right, the mechanism of the Four Hue is clever and unusual.
Definitely not out of the familiar Norma/Fend pedigree of mechanisms..

I have not dismantled mine, but I suspect the mechanism is the same as
that of the Johann Faber 8010. Both work in the same way, though the
Faber uses 2 mm, not 1.8 mm, leads.

Getting leads is a problem. At 1.8 mm in diameter, they are much
larger than the standard 1.18 mm of most four colour pencils. There is
no regular source. Best to get 2 mm leads and gently sand them down to
fit.

I got my Four Hue 18 months ago on Ebay for the absurd price of 1
English pound. Postage cost me 3 pounds.

They are not, so far as I know, sought after collectors' items.
Nevertheless I suspect they are scarce as hens' teeth. Probably the
product of a falsely hopeful English company in the 1940s or 1950s.
Then the ball pen took over.

I have read a claim that the Four Hue was made by M. Myers & Son,
Birmingham, but that is not stated on my pencil. Perhaps the
information came with a boxed specimen.

I may be teaching you the obvious, but a good idea is to remove the
leads and then spray down the front with an anti-corrosive lubricant
with lanolin. In Australia there is a brand by Inox called Lanox. Work
the mechanism and bit, and then shake out the surplus lubricant before
putting the leads back in. I have brought to life hopelessly stiff
pencil mechanisms by doing this.

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Old September 21st 08, 09:04 AM
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:40:58 +0100, Sir William
wrote:


Hello folks,

I notice there have been some previous thoughts about four-colour
pencils...please forgive me if I am going over old ground.

I have a pencil marked "FOUR HUE" "Made in England"..with spare
coloured leads in the barrel...and the mechanism strikes me as being
both clever and unusual.

If you turn the top of the pencil it works like an ordinary propelling
pencil - moving the lead in and out but - if you fully withdraw the
lead and then continuing turning, the mechanism clicks and will then
produce a different coloured lead. You can do this sequencially and
produce the four different colours - each of which will operate as a
normal propelling pencil.

There is no other name or mark on the pencil, which is chrome finish
and machine patterned in alternating panels.

Can anyone enlighten me about this unusual pencil (if indeed it is
unusual). Age, maker, value etc. I would be most grateful

Thanks in anticipation.

William


Guard your Four Hue. You have a treasure.

You are right, the mechanism of the Four Hue is clever and unusual.
Definitely not out of the familiar Norma/Fend pedigree of mechanisms..

I have not dismantled mine, but I suspect the mechanism is the same as
that of the Johann Faber 8010. Both work in the same way, though the
Faber uses 2 mm, not 1.8 mm, leads.

Getting leads is a problem. At 1.8 mm in diameter, they are much
larger than the standard 1.18 mm of most four colour pencils. There is
no regular source. Best to get 2 mm leads and gently sand them down to
fit.

I got my Four Hue 18 months ago on Ebay for the absurd price of 1
English pound. Postage cost me 3 pounds.

They are not, so far as I know, sought after collectors' items.
Nevertheless I suspect they are scarce as hens' teeth. Probably the
product of a falsely hopeful English company in the 1940s or 1950s.
Then the ball pen took over.

I have read a claim that the Four Hue was made by M. Myers & Son,
Birmingham, but that is not stated on my pencil. Perhaps the
information came with a boxed specimen.

I may be teaching you the obvious, but a good idea is to remove the
leads and then spray down the front with an anti-corrosive lubricant
with lanolin. In Australia there is a brand by Inox called Lanox. Work
the mechanism and bit, and then shake out the surplus lubricant before
putting the leads back in. I have brought to life hopelessly stiff
pencil mechanisms by doing this.
Thanks for that...the pencil actually works beautifully though never having encountered one before it took me a while to work out how it funtioned...and it has a complement of spare leads in the barrel.

To be truthful, although I can see the joy of such an instrument, it is not likely to be of much use to me and (shock, horror) I will probably offer it for sale.

If you - or anyone else on the site - might like it, it appears to be in pristine condition and is open to offers (incidentally, I am in the UK) ...I think something like that should be in the hands of a person who would actually appreciate it for what it is, not someone who merely chanced upon it by accident.

I have this annoying habit of liking to learn about things I encounter along the way so thank you for your help. Regards to all.
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Old August 18th 10, 07:48 AM
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I have a this set plus the Blue Rhapsody one and both pencils broke after the 1st piece of lead ran out. Extremely disappointing especially since I gave friends sets. So embarrassed to have sent a gift to someone and have it break. Completely unacceptable!
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Old February 18th 11, 06:05 PM
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This brings back memories of my childhood (1950's) around Birmingham. There were two premesis belonging to the Meyers company, one in Birmingham and one in Langley. They were made at the Birmingham factory but distributed to Langley certainly and probably to other companies associated withy Meyers. My Grandfather bought me one of these pencils after visiting the Meyers premesis in Langley. I never saw these pencils for sale and heard that they were mainly given or sold quite cheaply to Meyers' employees and/or visitors. I still have (I think) the original one and have purchased two more over the years. I think they're great things! Workmanship is very good, they're solidly made, very unusual in design. The only problem was they were never exactly "nice" to use. The colours weren't as "bold" as simple coloured pencils, the leads soon became blunt and were difficult to sharpen, they also tended to break off and were quite difficilt to replace (they were a tight fit). As such they never caught on. So, you're correct, they were definately made by Meyers even though there never was any identifying marks.
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