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Old November 6th 05, 02:05 PM
Nellie Paris
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Default Phileas vs Kultur

Hello,

I recently purchased a black Waterman Phileas. It writes beautifully
in a fine nib, as do all of my other pens of this model.

Unusual is that the cap band is missing, yet there is a ridge where
that band would normally be. The nib is all gold in color, rather
than 2-tone, and the etched emblem is missing near the end of the pen.
I don't consider these defects, but rather differences. Is my Phileas
actually a Kultur, the European version of this pen, I believe? I
previously thought that the Kultur was a less-expensive, less
detailed, more *fun* version of the Phileas.

Nellie Paris
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Old November 6th 05, 09:50 PM
JimL
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If ther band is clearly missing, and if the nib is definitely different
than others of the same model (if you have seen them or can find a
picture online), then send it back for a refund -- you were shipped and
inferior product. Possibly something hybrid or one previously returned
to the seller from a previous dissatisfied customer.

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Old November 6th 05, 11:12 PM
Stephen Hust
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Nellie Paris wrote:

I recently purchased a black Waterman Phileas. It writes
beautifully in a fine nib, as do all of my other pens of this
model.

Unusual is that the cap band is missing, yet there is a ridge
where that band would normally be. The nib is all gold in
color, rather than 2-tone, and the etched emblem is missing near
the end of the pen.


Yes, it sounds like a Kultur to me. Here's a picture of a pen
described as a black Kultur:

http://sccsales.50megs.com/watermankulturblack.jpg

Here's Sanford's description of the Phileas and a picture (though
you can't see the barrel ornament):

http://www.sanfordcorp.com/sanford/consumer/jhtml/new-product/productdetail.jhtml?attributeId=SNATT20054&nrProdu ctId=SN19704W2

The Kulturs I've seen in Europe cost less than the Phileas.
Kulturs are (or were) also available in fairly inexpensive
transparent and translucent models with steel nibs (not
gold-plated or gold-colored).

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