refilling cartridges

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 at 12:01:13 -0700, Mark Z. scribbled:
-... it might be better to refer to the "blunt needle hypos" as
-syringes, since that is what they are. Hopefully this will help
-to clear up the confusion.

I think what you meant to say is the other way around. I.e.,
fountain pen users would get fewer nasty looks if they referred to
"syringes" as "blunt needle" hypos, with emphasis on "blunt needle"
so as to distance them from the medical instrument kind. This
sounds like a good idea, but I never heard of such terminology
until it was mentioned in this thread. (That's why newsgroups
are sometimes useful reading! -- sometimes! grin)
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Edward Bonaventure's other personality, David, wrote ...

I think what you meant to say is the other way around. I.e.,
fountain pen users would get fewer nasty looks if they referred to
"syringes" as "blunt needle" hypos, with emphasis on "blunt needle"
so as to distance them from the medical instrument kind. This
sounds like a good idea, but I never heard of such terminology
until it was mentioned in this thread. (That's why newsgroups
are sometimes useful reading! -- sometimes! grin)
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Weellll noooo. :0)

Not to belabor the point (but I love doing it anyway ;0), I meant syringe
because a "hypo." is technically a hypodermic syringe. The word "syringe"
simply describes a tube with either a rubber bulb or piston which draws in
and expels a stream of liquid, to paraphrase Webster's. Hence a hypo., the
turkey baster with the rubber bulb that gets dragged out of the back of the
kitchen utensil drawer every Thanksgiving, and the eyedropper used to fill
your FPs are all syringes. It would be better, IMO, to refer to them as
blunt needle syringes, plastic-tipped syringes, or "whatever" syringes,
leaving hypo. completely out of the description since "hypo." is what
connotes a medical use.

See Ma, all those years of education weren't wasted. They just have no
practical use. :0P

Mark Z.
(Oh my gawd, I *am* becoming a grammar cop! Somebody, help me quick!!)

Why don't y'all just buy yourselves some Snorkels? It's a pen and a
cartridge refiller in one!
Richard

"mz" wrote in message
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Edward Bonaventure's other personality, David, wrote ...

I think what you meant to say is the other way around. I.e.,
fountain pen users would get fewer nasty looks if they referred to
"syringes" as "blunt needle" hypos, with emphasis on "blunt needle"
so as to distance them from the medical instrument kind. This
sounds like a good idea, but I never heard of such terminology
until it was mentioned in this thread. (That's why newsgroups
are sometimes useful reading! -- sometimes! grin)
--

Weellll noooo. :0)

Not to belabor the point (but I love doing it anyway ;0), I meant syringe
because a "hypo." is technically a hypodermic syringe. The word "syringe"
simply describes a tube with either a rubber bulb or piston which draws in
and expels a stream of liquid, to paraphrase Webster's. Hence a hypo., the
turkey baster with the rubber bulb that gets dragged out of the back of
the
kitchen utensil drawer every Thanksgiving, and the eyedropper used to fill
your FPs are all syringes. It would be better, IMO, to refer to them as
blunt needle syringes, plastic-tipped syringes, or "whatever" syringes,
leaving hypo. completely out of the description since "hypo." is what
connotes a medical use.

See Ma, all those years of education weren't wasted. They just have no
practical use. :0P

Mark Z.
(Oh my gawd, I *am* becoming a grammar cop! Somebody, help me quick!!)

marlinspike wrote:

Why don't y'all just buy yourselves some Snorkels? It's a pen and a
cartridge refiller in one!


Of course I say exactly that in Da Book and have used Snorkels all my
life for refilling cartridges and also ED filler pens. Frank

wrote in message ...
marlinspike wrote:

Why don't y'all just buy yourselves some Snorkels? It's a pen and a
cartridge refiller in one!


Of course I say exactly that in Da Book and have used Snorkels all my
life for refilling cartridges and also ED filler pens. Frank

Hey!!! No fair coming up with practical solutions. How can we waste days on
minutiae when you two come up with answers like that?

Where's my rule book? I think that's grounds for expulsion, at least. Where
are Alice and the Queen of Hearts when you need them? :0)

Mark Z.

wrote in message ...
marlinspike wrote:

Why don't y'all just buy yourselves some Snorkels? It's a pen and a
cartridge refiller in one!


Of course I say exactly that in Da Book and have used Snorkels all my
life for refilling cartridges and also ED filler pens. Frank

But then wouldn't you be limited to using the same color of ink for
each snorkel used to fill other pens? Unless the snorkel is way easy
to rinse out -- I've never seen one.

I have almost as many different ink colors as I have pens.

And in a job where my signature is needed many times per day -- I once
had the university registrar return a form that I had signed in
gasp! black ink. She wanted to confirm that it was really my
signature.


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JimL wrote:

But then wouldn't you be limited to using the same color of ink for
each snorkel used to fill other pens? Unless the snorkel is way easy
to rinse out -- I've never seen one.


As easy if not easier than any other pen. But once again, some of us
treat our pens as pens. Not toys to put pretty colors on paper so it
doesn't matter. I use blue ink. Period. Nor do I care what shade of
blue. No offense to those who like pretty colors, and for that the
Snorkle would make a toy as good as the next I guess. Frank

wrote in message ...
JimL wrote:

But then wouldn't you be limited to using the same color of ink for
each snorkel used to fill other pens? Unless the snorkel is way easy
to rinse out -- I've never seen one.

IMHO, the snorkel is way easier to clean out than a convertor pen.

I use blue ink. Period. Nor do I care what shade of
blue.

If I use only blue, do I have to worry when I go to a different brand about
gunking? My biggest problem, is that I'll be out of one blue, and then when
I want another blue (I choose colors that complement the pen, so I don't do
too much color changing within the same pen, but I do use different shades,
mainly to get a bunch of different bottle), I got and make sure there is
none of the old blue left in the pen for fear of creating gunk. Are my fears
unfounded?
Richard-who may actually switch to only blue...well, and Aurora black (the
only black I have that my ink eradicators couldn't affect in any way. I like
having a more permanent ink sometimes)

marlinspike wrote...

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If I use only blue, do I have to worry when I go to a different brand
about
gunking? My biggest problem, is that I'll be out of one blue, and then
when
I want another blue (I choose colors that complement the pen, so I don't
do
too much color changing within the same pen, but I do use different
shades,
mainly to get a bunch of different bottle), I got and make sure there is
none of the old blue left in the pen for fear of creating gunk. Are my
fears
unfounded?

No, you don't have to worry about gunking. Yes, your fears are unfounded.
The worst that will happen is the fresh ink flowing from the nib at the
start will be shaded by the last ink. :0)

Mark Z.

wrote in message ...
But then I don't give a damn about the "colors complementing my pen," so
maybe in 50 years I haven't done as much ink switching as you have.

I don't do much ink switching either (if a pen goes well with black ink, it
will always go well with black ink). I just have a bunch of different colors
in the various pens, but each pen sees one basic color.
Richard