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John Pelan once denied having made a racist comment ("..enough of your
black mischief" he once said) by arguing that not only was he extremley well read on Evelyn Waugh, but that he possessed a great many signed Waugh first editions (though he balked at the idea of validating this with an uploaded photograph). Yet now he alludes to a previous Ebay bidding ID of mine - one "Agatha Runcible". Perhaps Pelan would care to explain to everyone why it is that for over one year he failed to spot that Agatha Runcible was in fact a fictional name taken from one of Waugh's most famous novels given his alleged expertise on all things Waughesque............? Shurely shome inconsistency? |
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Haunted River wrote:
Shurely shome inconsistency? Perhaps. But aren't you just joining fundoc and the other flies who think any form of inconsistency is "shameless hypocrisy"? I'd tend to take the more charitable attitude that - when it comes to the human race - inconsistency is only to be expected. As Walt Whitman put it: "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)" (I believe Samuel Johnson also said something of the sort, though I can't pin down the source offhand.) It's only when the contradictions totally confound the author that it matters, and in this case (someone who claims to know about Waugh but doesn't recognise an allusion to Waugh), I doubt anyone cares (apart from the flies, that is, and surely you don't wish to number yourself among those?). -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com |
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Haunted River quoted John Pelan as saying:
"You stupid c*nt, you wouldn't know an authentic signature if it were tattooed on your ass. At least Michael Adams knows a little bit about books. When you get done sucking his cock, ask him why you're such a dismal failure. As you seem to like this forum, shall I bring some of the files from BAD MR TOAD over here for others to enjoy?" Lawrence Person replied: So you created a sock puppet to pretend to be John Pelan making rude accusations and comparing you unfavorably to your other sock puppet. We should care why? Lawrence, I know you're pretty good at decoding all that stuff under the "properties" and "view source" tabs that to me is just gobbledygook, and I'm just a poor confused biped on the other side of the planet who doesn't know what to make of all of this, so set me straight, please. Did John Pelan post that stuff about "Christmas sausage" (http://tinyurl.com/yu6zz), or was that someone just pretending to be him? Because, whatever the ins and outs of this little tiff that these people insist on continuing to belabour rcb with, I'd like to know who really wrote that, just so I can know who is truly offensive, obnoxious and lacking in taste here. -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com |
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"John Yamamoto-Wilson" wrote in message ...
Haunted River quoted John Pelan as saying: "You stupid c*nt, you wouldn't know an authentic signature if it were tattooed on your ass. At least Michael Adams knows a little bit about books. When you get done sucking his cock, ask him why you're such a dismal failure. As you seem to like this forum, shall I bring some of the files from BAD MR TOAD over here for others to enjoy?" Lawrence Person replied: So you created a sock puppet to pretend to be John Pelan making rude accusations and comparing you unfavorably to your other sock puppet. We should care why? Lawrence, I know you're pretty good at decoding all that stuff under the "properties" and "view source" tabs that to me is just gobbledygook, and I'm just a poor confused biped on the other side of the planet who doesn't know what to make of all of this, so set me straight, please. Did John Pelan post that stuff about "Christmas sausage" (http://tinyurl.com/yu6zz), or was that someone just pretending to be him? Because, whatever the ins and outs of this little tiff that these people insist on continuing to belabour rcb with, I'd like to know who really wrote that, just so I can know who is truly offensive, obnoxious and lacking in taste here. Well spotted. LP's allegation - which I missed in the mellee - is completely false. Pelan DID say those things in the Yahoo Booksellers forum owned by Bruce Tober. He said them while posting under his Yahoo user name jpelan which he uses in many Yahoo groups. If you join the group you can see for yourself. Pelan has habitually lost his rag and said things like this. It is not out of character. In fact, when I first quoted the 'stupid c*nt' bit above in alt.books.ghost-fiction, Pelan's response was to threaten to sue me for copyright infringement. So I really have no idea why or where LP gets this ridiculous nonsense about sock-puppeting under the Pelan name. Unless its part of the vendetta which the folk at BAD MR TOAD are pursuing. Chris Barker The Haunted River www.users.waitrose.com/~hauntedriver NB. It may interest you to know that a friend of Pelan's - the notoriously abusive "deathdream" - is a member of Pelan's malicious abuse site 'Bad Mr Toad' at Yahoo. It is in fact this deathdream who started playing around on the alt.books.ghost-fiction list by posting abusively under *my* name. |
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"John Yamamoto-Wilson" wrote in message ...
Haunted River wrote: Shurely shome inconsistency? Perhaps. But aren't you just joining fundoc and the other flies who think any form of inconsistency is "shameless hypocrisy"? I'd tend to take the more charitable attitude that - when it comes to the human race - inconsistency is only to be expected. As Walt Whitman put it: "Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)" (I believe Samuel Johnson also said something of the sort, though I can't pin down the source offhand.) It's only when the contradictions totally confound the author that it matters, and in this case (someone who claims to know about Waugh but doesn't recognise an allusion to Waugh), I doubt anyone cares (apart from the flies, that is, and surely you don't wish to number yourself among those?). Shell-shock is a contributing factor. For example, I've twice posted about book collecting here in the last two weeks - John Pelan stalks me to twice post abusively and off-topically. He also joins the Yahoo Booksellers forum shortly after me. Why? To post on-topically? No - to post abusively (as you recently saw). I get the same thing in alt.books.ghost-fiction. I post about an issue or a book under discussion - John "I'm Not Obsessed" Pelan just has to jump in with a nasty personal attack. It's stalking, harrassment, abuse, trolling, obsession - whatever name you want to call it. And it ranges from snide asides to full-blown profanity e.g. the sausage comments you refer to. But he thinks it works in his favour: if he perpetuates a bad atmosphere in ghost story forums, he can use that as leverage to get people - by which I mean 'propspective customers' - to join his own discussion forum at Yahoo. So I can't see it stopping. It's financially beneficial to him to perpertuate the discord. I think my being able to show his behaviour up for what it is has made things worse. All those associated were Bad Mr Toad were greatly embarrassed after I turned over the stone to expose what was actually being said in there. Pelan also appears to object to the success of my debut book publication, and the positive responses that my short fiction has elicited. And of course he would not be best pleased at being caricatured in the current issue of WEIRDLY SUPERNATURAL (in which Pelan's notoriously profane language features). Still, when he comes trolling in here, there's little anyone can do about it. It's your group as much as mine. His behaviour sours things for everybody. TTFN, Chris Barker The Haunted River www.users.waitrose.com/~hauntedriver |
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PLONK
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On 18 Apr 2004 13:45:05 -0700, (Haunted
River) wrote: PLONK Yeah. Do me a favor and plonk me too, okay? |
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