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A Jewel on a Stamp
The recent discussion about the coming Swarovski-stamp brought another
stamp-jewel to mind: the Dutch "juweeltje" that was valid for postage only on one day, 29th June 1998. Read the story he http://shoebox.heindorffhus.dk/frame...JewelStamp.htm Does anybody know for sure how many copies of this Jewel Stamp were printed? And how big the percentage was of the printed stamps actually used? -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) http://www.heindorffhus.dk |
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That's an interesting story Mette.
good luck with your search for info. These NVI issues are rather eerie when one meets them in the catalogue. They have no lineage and just sit there alone with no voice. I know of one from Thailand, and one I catalogued yesterday from Portugal SG2034 (1985) It's only claim is "CTT Post Rider" Serie A Most of the NVI from the US at least have some reference to their usage. | Does anybody know for sure how many copies of this Jewel Stamp were printed? | And how big the percentage was of the printed stamps actually used? | -- | Best regards | Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) | http://www.heindorffhus.dk | | | | | | | | |
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dear Mette, PTT/TPG hasn't released any official information about that stamp. All Dutch householdings were given a catalogue of PTT's services containing that stamp for free, so the guess could be: 15 million : 4 = 3.750.000 copies.... Most of these catalogues landed in the waste paper bin within a week! groetjes, Rein On 19 Sep 2004 13:15:45 , Mette\ wrote: The recent discussion about the coming Swarovski-stamp brought another stamp-jewel to mind: the Dutch "juweeltje" that was valid for postage only on one day, 29th June 1998. Read the story he http://shoebox.heindorffhus.dk/frame...JewelStamp.htm Does anybody know for sure how many copies of this Jewel Stamp were printed? And how big the percentage was of the printed stamps actually used? -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) http://www.heindorffhus.dk . |
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"Rein Bakhuizen van den Brink" skrev i en meddelelse
... dear Mette, PTT/TPG hasn't released any official information about that stamp. All Dutch householdings were given a catalogue of PTT's services containing that stamp for free, so the guess could be: 15 million : 4 = 3.750.000 copies.... Most of these catalogues landed in the waste paper bin within a week! Tbanks, Rein. I have entered your information on the page :-) -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) http://www.heindorffhus.dk groetjes, Rein On 19 Sep 2004 13:15:45 , Mette\ wrote: The recent discussion about the coming Swarovski-stamp brought another stamp-jewel to mind: the Dutch "juweeltje" that was valid for postage only on one day, 29th June 1998. Read the story he http://shoebox.heindorffhus.dk/frame...JewelStamp.htm Does anybody know for sure how many copies of this Jewel Stamp were printed? And how big the percentage was of the printed stamps actually used? -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) http://www.heindorffhus.dk . |
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It remains a mystery how the stamp could be
cancelled and postally handled two days before the official and only day of validity. We have the same problem here.......................... The official "Issue date" of this series is the 8th July here we see cancels up to 5 days prior. http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=481 Aw........shucks, we cannot even get our own postal code correct. (take your pick) http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=483 |
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"Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse
... It remains a mystery how the stamp could be cancelled and postally handled two days before the official and only day of validity. We have the same problem here.......................... The official "Issue date" of this series is the 8th July here we see cancels up to 5 days prior. http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=481 I see what you mean. The "problem" with this stamp is that it was only valid for postage for one single day! I have long ago given up finding out *how* it happened, just stating for a fact that it did -- and that I have one of those. I have never heard of any other case, so maybe my cover is pretty much outstanding, a true scarcity ;-)) Which reminds me, I have written on the page that the stamp is not on the market in mint condition. Not quite true. A Dutch collector has offered me a scan of a mint copy for the page :-) -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) remove usenet to reply http://www.heindorffhus.dk Aw........shucks, we cannot even get our own postal code correct. (take your pick) http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=483 |
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In article ,
amesh \(Mette\) wrote: "Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse ... It remains a mystery how the stamp could be cancelled and postally handled two days before the official and only day of validity. We have the same problem here.......................... The official "Issue date" of this series is the 8th July here we see cancels up to 5 days prior. http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=481 I see what you mean. The "problem" with this stamp is that it was only valid for postage for one single day! I have long ago given up finding out *how* it happened, just stating for a fact that it did -- and that I have one of those. I have never heard of any other case, so maybe my cover is pretty much outstanding, a true scarcity ;-)) How it happened. Easy. Someone placed it on an envelope and put that in the mail. The postal workers then either didn't notice that it was not valid or decided to let it go through anyway. It looks like the cover has a hand cancel, so I would guess that they just decided to let it go. = Eric -- = Eric K. Bustad Voice: +1 732 949 6257 CAD Systems Engineering Fax: +1 732 949 7512 Lucent Technologies Holmdel, NJ, USA |
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"Eric Kenneth Bustad" skrev i en meddelelse
... - snip - valid for postage for one single day! I have long ago given up finding out *how* it happened, just stating for a fact that it did -- and that I have one of those. I have never heard of any other case, so maybe my cover is pretty much outstanding, a true scarcity ;-)) How it happened. Easy. Someone placed it on an envelope and put that in the mail. The postal workers then either didn't notice that it was not valid or decided to let it go through anyway. It looks like the cover has a hand cancel, so I would guess that they just decided to let it go. Yes Eric, you are right. It *is* hand cancelled 2 days before validity (meaning done on purpose), as opposed to the other cover that was machine cancelled on the only "correct" day (29th June 1998). The whole point is that the stamp was never for public sale -- it was distributed for free (1 stamp per household) 5 months prior to validity, so most people had simply forgotten about it, and most of the print run gone into the dust bin. Had the stamp been (attempted) used on 30th June 1998 or later, it would most likely have been stopped in the control as being not valid. If anyone owns a cover with that stamp, cancelled on 30th June 1998, I would appreciate seeing a scan. -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) remove usenet to reply http://www.heindorffhus.dk |
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Mette, thanks for an interesting story which I have just read after
returning from holiday in windy Greece. There is something that I do not quite understand though. You state that mint copies of this stamp are not circulated on the market; yet surely PTT supplied one mint copy to each of 3,750,000 households? These presumably no longer have any postal validity, but any copies not detached from their backing and stuck on an envelope for posting on 28/6/98 would be as mint as any other self-adhesive stamp and anybody with such a stamp could trade it just like any other item. Or have I missed something? I accept of course that PTT did not issue any other copies to the stamp trade and I would imagine that a pair or any other multiple of this stamp should not exist, at least as an official issue. As you rightly point out, most households would have put this correspondence from PTT in the same place that they would put the junk mail that thay receive and the number of surviving copies although quite unknown is probably only a very small percentage of the above number. If I were a collector in Holland at the time I would have been tempted to badger my friends and neighbours for their copies, kept some as mint and posted the others (to myself of course). Best regards Roger "amesh (Mette)" wrote in message ... "Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse ... It remains a mystery how the stamp could be cancelled and postally handled two days before the official and only day of validity. We have the same problem here.......................... The official "Issue date" of this series is the 8th July here we see cancels up to 5 days prior. http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=481 I see what you mean. The "problem" with this stamp is that it was only valid for postage for one single day! I have long ago given up finding out *how* it happened, just stating for a fact that it did -- and that I have one of those. I have never heard of any other case, so maybe my cover is pretty much outstanding, a true scarcity ;-)) Which reminds me, I have written on the page that the stamp is not on the market in mint condition. Not quite true. A Dutch collector has offered me a scan of a mint copy for the page :-) -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) remove usenet to reply http://www.heindorffhus.dk Aw........shucks, we cannot even get our own postal code correct. (take your pick) http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=483 |
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"Roger Smith" skrev i en meddelelse
... Mette, thanks for an interesting story which I have just read after returning from holiday in windy Greece. Roger, welcome home from windy Greece :-) Here in Denmark it has been pouring down today after a lovely week of Indian Summer. There is something that I do not quite understand though. You state that mint copies of this stamp are not circulated on the market; yet surely PTT supplied one mint copy to each of 3,750,000 households? Yes. These presumably no longer have any postal validity, but any copies not detached from their backing and stuck on an envelope for posting on 28/6/98 would be as mint as any other self-adhesive stamp and anybody with such a stamp could trade it just like any other item. Or have I missed something? You have missed nothing, but according to what I have been told, most households were very unattentive to this ptt-offer, and simply let the folder with the stamp disappear in the waste. I accept of course that PTT did not issue any other copies to the stamp trade and I would imagine that a pair or any other multiple of this stamp should not exist, at least as an official issue. As you rightly point out, most households would have put this correspondence from PTT in the same place that they would put the junk mail that thay receive and the number of surviving copies although quite unknown is probably only a very small percentage of the above number. If I were a collector in Holland at the time I would have been tempted to badger my friends and neighbours for their copies, kept some as mint and posted the others (to myself of course). So would I! But I have never come across any Dutch who did that at the time. Not that they don't exist, I just haven't heard of them, except for the collector who has offered me a scan of a mint copy, mentioned in my previous answer in this thread ;-) And I know the first 100 Dutch people, both within and outside philately. I have asked them, and they all shrug their shoulders. The two covers I have were given to me as a present some years ago, and I have been hunting for a mint copy ever since for my collection. No luck so far. -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) remove usenet to reply http://www.heindorffhus.dk Best regards Roger "amesh (Mette)" wrote in message ... "Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse ... It remains a mystery how the stamp could be cancelled and postally handled two days before the official and only day of validity. We have the same problem here.......................... The official "Issue date" of this series is the 8th July here we see cancels up to 5 days prior. http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=481 I see what you mean. The "problem" with this stamp is that it was only valid for postage for one single day! I have long ago given up finding out *how* it happened, just stating for a fact that it did -- and that I have one of those. I have never heard of any other case, so maybe my cover is pretty much outstanding, a true scarcity ;-)) Which reminds me, I have written on the page that the stamp is not on the market in mint condition. Not quite true. A Dutch collector has offered me a scan of a mint copy for the page :-) -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) remove usenet to reply http://www.heindorffhus.dk Aw........shucks, we cannot even get our own postal code correct. (take your pick) http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=483 |
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