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What is this book set worth?
Does anyone know what:
Handbuch der Astronomischen Instrumentenkunde, L. Ambronn, 1899 (2 Volumes) is worth? I have never seen it for sale on line. David |
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David S. Maddison wrote:
Does anyone know what: Handbuch der Astronomischen Instrumentenkunde, L. Ambronn, 1899 (2 Volumes) is worth? I have never seen it for sale on line. (Some of the following may be of the teaching grandmothers to suck eggs variety, but since I don't know where you're coming from I'll just start from scratch.) You'll probably think I'm being flippant if I tell you that, if you're trying to sell it, it's worth whatever you can get for it, and if you're trying to buy it it's worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it, but such nevertheless is the case. Even if you did find a copy offered for sale online it would not necessarily tell you what it was worth, only what one particular dealer was *asking* for it. If you found the record of a sale that would get you a bit closer to what it was worth - it would at least tell you that it was worth that much to a particular seller and a particular buyer at a particular time. Having said that, a search of the Karlsruhe metacatalogue of library collections (http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/hylib/en/kvk.html) turns up only one copy in Berlin and one copy in Bayern (possibly a reprint; it has the same publisher but there is no date given and no mention of it being in two volumes). There are doubtless a few other copies around, but it is evidently quite scarce. Scarcity, though, is not necessarily a guide to value. Most books go through only one edition, generate little interest and fall into oblivion. They may subsequently gain value through extreme age, or because they deal with a subject of scholarly interest, etc., but scarcity in itself is no guarantee of value. The fact that it is in short *supply* is of no real consequence if it is not in *demand* so, having established its scarcity the next step is to find out whether there are people who might want it enough to pay a decent price for it. Google can help here. If there are references to Ambronn's work in scholarly papers, etc., they may show up in a google search, and that will at least show that his work is on the map, and may be of interest to specialists in the field. In this case, google comes up trumps. There are only a few references, but they are encouraging. In particular, there is a short biography of Ambronn at http://www.plicht.de/chris/files/a/a...dfriedrich.htm, which describes the work in question as "still valuable and much sought after". So we know it's scarce, and now we know at least *someone* reckons it's in demand. Google also turns up someone with the e-mail address , who has a copy of volume two and is looking for a copy of volume one (http://www.trussel.com/books/sets_h.htm). You could perhaps get in touch with this person, who may perhaps have an idea of the going price. (Curiously enough, I may have had recent dealings with this person in a not wholly unrelated context, though the e-mail address is different.) Another way to attempt to establish what economic value you might want to attach to this book would be to track down other works by this writer and other works in the same field and see what kinds of prices they fetch. For example, a quick search on ABE, based on a list at http://www.sternwarte.uni-erlangen.d...b/buch/ai.html, turned up a copy of Nicolaus von Konkoly, Praktische Anleitung (1883), at $277.75, but you'd need to look at many more examples and check other sales catalogues, such as the ZVAB catalogue (http://www.zvab.com), where the Konkoly book is also listed, with a description in English, which you may find useful. The ZVAB catalogue also has another work by Ambronn, dated 1911, and priced at only 8 euros, but that's probably not much help; it isn't listed as a significant work on the biographical site I mentioned above. You would probably also, in the course of such enquiries, turn up specialist dealers and, maybe, specialist collectors whom you could approach directly. Of course, one such may respond to your posting; I'm just throwing in my two pennies' worth in case no one else does. -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com |
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In article , "John
Yamamoto-Wilson" wrote: David S. Maddison wrote: Does anyone know what: Handbuch der Astronomischen Instrumentenkunde, L. Ambronn, 1899 (2 Volumes) is worth? I have never seen it for sale on line. (Some of the following may be of the teaching grandmothers to suck eggs variety, but since I don't know where you're coming from I'll just start from scratch.) You'll probably think I'm being flippant if I tell you that, if you're trying to sell it, it's worth whatever you can get for it, and if you're trying to buy it it's worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it, but such nevertheless is the case. Even if you did find a copy offered for sale online it would not necessarily tell you what it was worth, only what one particular dealer was *asking* for it. If you found the record of a sale that would get you a bit closer to what it was worth - it would at least tell you that it was worth that much to a particular seller and a particular buyer at a particular time. Having said that, a search of the Karlsruhe metacatalogue of library collections (http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/hylib/en/kvk.html) turns up only one copy in Berlin and one copy in Bayern (possibly a reprint; it has the same publisher but there is no date given and no mention of it being in two volumes). There are doubtless a few other copies around, but it is evidently quite scarce. Scarcity, though, is not necessarily a guide to value. Most books go through only one edition, generate little interest and fall into oblivion. They may subsequently gain value through extreme age, or because they deal with a subject of scholarly interest, etc., but scarcity in itself is no guarantee of value. The fact that it is in short *supply* is of no real consequence if it is not in *demand* so, having established its scarcity the next step is to find out whether there are people who might want it enough to pay a decent price for it. Google can help here. If there are references to Ambronn's work in scholarly papers, etc., they may show up in a google search, and that will at least show that his work is on the map, and may be of interest to specialists in the field. In this case, google comes up trumps. There are only a few references, but they are encouraging. In particular, there is a short biography of Ambronn at http://www.plicht.de/chris/files/a/a...dfriedrich.htm, which describes the work in question as "still valuable and much sought after". So we know it's scarce, and now we know at least *someone* reckons it's in demand. Google also turns up someone with the e-mail address , who has a copy of volume two and is looking for a copy of volume one (http://www.trussel.com/books/sets_h.htm). You could perhaps get in touch with this person, who may perhaps have an idea of the going price. (Curiously enough, I may have had recent dealings with this person in a not wholly unrelated context, though the e-mail address is different.) Another way to attempt to establish what economic value you might want to attach to this book would be to track down other works by this writer and other works in the same field and see what kinds of prices they fetch. For example, a quick search on ABE, based on a list at http://www.sternwarte.uni-erlangen.d...b/buch/ai.html, turned up a copy of Nicolaus von Konkoly, Praktische Anleitung (1883), at $277.75, but you'd need to look at many more examples and check other sales catalogues, such as the ZVAB catalogue (http://www.zvab.com), where the Konkoly book is also listed, with a description in English, which you may find useful. The ZVAB catalogue also has another work by Ambronn, dated 1911, and priced at only 8 euros, but that's probably not much help; it isn't listed as a significant work on the biographical site I mentioned above. You would probably also, in the course of such enquiries, turn up specialist dealers and, maybe, specialist collectors whom you could approach directly. Of course, one such may respond to your posting; I'm just throwing in my two pennies' worth in case no one else does. -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com Well I think that's a very good mini-essay on the topic. My first thought was that for MOST bookstores, it would likely be worth nothing whatsoever, as the chance of finding a walk-in customer for it approaches zero percent -- so it's essentially a Goodwill Box item, & when the Goodwill gets it, even they'd likely put it in the recycle bin as worth only its weight in recyclable paper (which is the fate of tons & tons of books left at Half Price Books -- including a lot of old fiction I could've sold easily, but Half Price doesn't have customers for it -- one vendor's idea of unsalable junk could be another vendor's goldmine of rarities). The web leaves open the off chance of selling even stuff on nobody's wantlist, or on only one person's wantlist who lives on the other side of the planet. I was once saddled with a dead friend's Russian language medical texts from the 1920s through 1970s. A lot of this stuff was autographed by the Russian authors; the books came from the library of an elderly surgeon whose own books & scientific papers I edited for publication, & in his youth he'd worked in a St Petersberg hospital so had all these Russian buddies throughout his life, managing to keep in touch even during the Cold War, and trading their published works with one another for decades. But autographed medical books in Russian probably aren't all that valuable even in Russia where folks could actually read them; they're dead stock in an English langauge bookstore. Books with a lot of well-illustrated herpetological studies & genetic experiments on amphibians I was actually able to sell (cheaply for the lot) to a herpetology specialist who quadrupled the prices & sold them slowly over many years. A few others with illustrations of freaks of nature were also salable (more dearly) for the creepy pictures. But every attempt to even give the rest of it away failed until it was off to the Goodwill with what remained, & they no doubt tossed it all out. Perhaps nowadays they could be put on the web & find a buyer eventually for fifty to two-hundred dollars a pop because if even one person wanted even one of the books, they would never find another copy & I could screw them for the price if I was that sort of character. But I wouldn't count on being able to sell such stuff even now, neither dirt-cheap nor gouging. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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Nicely done, Paghat.
Francis A. Miniter paghat wrote: In article , "John Yamamoto-Wilson" wrote: David S. Maddison wrote: Does anyone know what: Handbuch der Astronomischen Instrumentenkunde, L. Ambronn, 1899 (2 Volumes) is worth? I have never seen it for sale on line. (Some of the following may be of the teaching grandmothers to suck eggs variety, but since I don't know where you're coming from I'll just start from scratch.) You'll probably think I'm being flippant if I tell you that, if you're trying to sell it, it's worth whatever you can get for it, and if you're trying to buy it it's worth whatever you're prepared to pay for it, but such nevertheless is the case. Even if you did find a copy offered for sale online it would not necessarily tell you what it was worth, only what one particular dealer was *asking* for it. If you found the record of a sale that would get you a bit closer to what it was worth - it would at least tell you that it was worth that much to a particular seller and a particular buyer at a particular time. Having said that, a search of the Karlsruhe metacatalogue of library collections (http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de/hylib/en/kvk.html) turns up only one copy in Berlin and one copy in Bayern (possibly a reprint; it has the same publisher but there is no date given and no mention of it being in two volumes). There are doubtless a few other copies around, but it is evidently quite scarce. Scarcity, though, is not necessarily a guide to value. Most books go through only one edition, generate little interest and fall into oblivion. They may subsequently gain value through extreme age, or because they deal with a subject of scholarly interest, etc., but scarcity in itself is no guarantee of value. The fact that it is in short *supply* is of no real consequence if it is not in *demand* so, having established its scarcity the next step is to find out whether there are people who might want it enough to pay a decent price for it. Google can help here. If there are references to Ambronn's work in scholarly papers, etc., they may show up in a google search, and that will at least show that his work is on the map, and may be of interest to specialists in the field. In this case, google comes up trumps. There are only a few references, but they are encouraging. In particular, there is a short biography of Ambronn at http://www.plicht.de/chris/files/a/a...dfriedrich.htm, which describes the work in question as "still valuable and much sought after". So we know it's scarce, and now we know at least *someone* reckons it's in demand. Google also turns up someone with the e-mail address , who has a copy of volume two and is looking for a copy of volume one (http://www.trussel.com/books/sets_h.htm). You could perhaps get in touch with this person, who may perhaps have an idea of the going price. (Curiously enough, I may have had recent dealings with this person in a not wholly unrelated context, though the e-mail address is different.) Another way to attempt to establish what economic value you might want to attach to this book would be to track down other works by this writer and other works in the same field and see what kinds of prices they fetch. For example, a quick search on ABE, based on a list at http://www.sternwarte.uni-erlangen.d...b/buch/ai.html, turned up a copy of Nicolaus von Konkoly, Praktische Anleitung (1883), at $277.75, but you'd need to look at many more examples and check other sales catalogues, such as the ZVAB catalogue (http://www.zvab.com), where the Konkoly book is also listed, with a description in English, which you may find useful. The ZVAB catalogue also has another work by Ambronn, dated 1911, and priced at only 8 euros, but that's probably not much help; it isn't listed as a significant work on the biographical site I mentioned above. You would probably also, in the course of such enquiries, turn up specialist dealers and, maybe, specialist collectors whom you could approach directly. Of course, one such may respond to your posting; I'm just throwing in my two pennies' worth in case no one else does. -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com Well I think that's a very good mini-essay on the topic. My first thought was that for MOST bookstores, it would likely be worth nothing whatsoever, as the chance of finding a walk-in customer for it approaches zero percent -- so it's essentially a Goodwill Box item, & when the Goodwill gets it, even they'd likely put it in the recycle bin as worth only its weight in recyclable paper (which is the fate of tons & tons of books left at Half Price Books -- including a lot of old fiction I could've sold easily, but Half Price doesn't have customers for it -- one vendor's idea of unsalable junk could be another vendor's goldmine of rarities). The web leaves open the off chance of selling even stuff on nobody's wantlist, or on only one person's wantlist who lives on the other side of the planet. I was once saddled with a dead friend's Russian language medical texts from the 1920s through 1970s. A lot of this stuff was autographed by the Russian authors; the books came from the library of an elderly surgeon whose own books & scientific papers I edited for publication, & in his youth he'd worked in a St Petersberg hospital so had all these Russian buddies throughout his life, managing to keep in touch even during the Cold War, and trading their published works with one another for decades. But autographed medical books in Russian probably aren't all that valuable even in Russia where folks could actually read them; they're dead stock in an English langauge bookstore. Books with a lot of well-illustrated herpetological studies & genetic experiments on amphibians I was actually able to sell (cheaply for the lot) to a herpetology specialist who quadrupled the prices & sold them slowly over many years. A few others with illustrations of freaks of nature were also salable (more dearly) for the creepy pictures. But every attempt to even give the rest of it away failed until it was off to the Goodwill with what remained, & they no doubt tossed it all out. Perhaps nowadays they could be put on the web & find a buyer eventually for fifty to two-hundred dollars a pop because if even one person wanted even one of the books, they would never find another copy & I could screw them for the price if I was that sort of character. But I wouldn't count on being able to sell such stuff even now, neither dirt-cheap nor gouging. -paghat the ratgirl |
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Paghat wrote:
My first thought was that for MOST bookstores, it would likely be worth nothing whatsoever, as the chance of finding a walk-in customer for it approaches zero percent Yes, I guess for most people an obscure book in a foreign language is pretty worthless, but located in Japan as I am, and with the web as my main tool, I get a lot of fun out of matching up books to the people who will value them, and walk-in customers don't come into it. Collecting scientific instruments is quite a field in itself, and there are doubtless people out there who would jump at a two-volume work on turn-of-the-century astronomic instruments. The question is whether you can find them, or at least make it possible for them to find you. If not, then, as you say, such books are pretty worthless. Re your Russian books: autographed medical books in Russian probably aren't all that valuable even in Russia where folks could actually read them; they're dead stock in an English langauge bookstore. [snip] nowadays they could be put on the web & find a buyer eventually for fifty to two-hundred dollars a pop because if even one person wanted even one of the books, they would never find another copy & I could screw them for the price if I was that sort of character. But I wouldn't count on being able to sell such stuff even now, . neither dirt-cheap nor gouging Russian medical textbooks and a German work on astronomic instruments are rather different kettles of fish, but surely the sensible approach in both cases would be neither to gouge nor sell them dirt-cheap, but price them moderately and leave them in an online catalogue, perhaps with some suitable keywords (including some in Russian) in your meta-http. Wouldn't that be better than carting them off to a thrift store you know is only going to chuck 'em out? At least that way someone who might be happy to get them would have a chance to do so. (I appreciate this wasn't an option at the time, but with the advent of the web - and assuming one has somewhere to store the stuff - that seems the most practicable option nowadays.) -- John http://rarebooksinjapan.com |
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