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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
This does not appear to be good news for those who would like to see
more dollar coins circulate. http://www.amonline.com/web/online/V.../National-Auto matic-Merchandising-Association-Seeks-To-Revise-Dollar-Coin-Requirement-F or-Vending-Machines-On-Government-Property/1$19890 I wonder what "working with Congress" means. What would be involved in changing the details of the Presidential Dollar Coin legislation? Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
Paul Anderson wrote:
This does not appear to be good news for those who would like to see more dollar coins circulate. http://www.amonline.com/web/online/V.../National-Auto matic-Merchandising-Association-Seeks-To-Revise-Dollar-Coin-Requirement-F or-Vending-Machines-On-Government-Property/1$19890 I wonder what "working with Congress" means. What would be involved in changing the details of the Presidential Dollar Coin legislation? Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company Every vending machine I have used already accepts dollar coins. JAM |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
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Bill Dukenfield wrote: Every vending machine I have used already accepts dollar coins. And most machines do indeed take dollar coins. But they're talking about removing the requirement that the machines _dispense_ dollar coins. Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
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Every vending machine I have used already accepts dollar coins. And most machines do indeed take dollar coins. But they're talking about removing the requirement that the machines _dispense_ dollar coins. But that's a null operation if the machine sells nothing costing over a dollar, or does not accept $5 bills. -- Stefano "A balanced diet is essential: too many Twinkies and not enough Ding- dongs will KILL YOU DEAD!" |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
http://tinyurl.com/3aexcn
Perhaps this is a non-issue? The requirement to give change is only a problem if: 1) There is no 4 or more tube changer in the machine. AND 2) The machine is set up to accept bills with a higher denomination than $1. Of course, I would be in favor of both of those remaining LAW. Many vendors replace machines every 3 years. They have had plenty of time to prepare since this law was passed. Fix the machines. Get with the program. Duh. -Fred Shecter -- """Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply. http://www.sirius.com/ "Paul Anderson" wrote in message news This does not appear to be good news for those who would like to see more dollar coins circulate. http://www.amonline.com/web/online/V.../National-Auto matic-Merchandising-Association-Seeks-To-Revise-Dollar-Coin-Requirement-F or-Vending-Machines-On-Government-Property/1$19890 I wonder what "working with Congress" means. What would be involved in changing the details of the Presidential Dollar Coin legislation? Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
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Stefano MacGregor wrote: But that's a null operation if the machine sells nothing costing over a dollar, or does not accept $5 bills. Not exactly. If a machine takes $2 bills, purchasing an item costing less than $1 could return dollar coin(s) in change. Likewise, if a machine takes $5 bills, it could return dollar coins unless all items cost more than $4. And so on. While most machines made since 1979 can accept dollar coins (even if some have the inside switch set to the wrong setting) I think a minority have the ability to dispense dollar coins. Most machines that take dollar coins drop them into the bucket and have no way of dispensing them, nor are any dollar coins stored in the tubes. Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
How many machines on government property accept $2 bills??????????
Vending machine bill validators can be set to accept any denominations, but most are set for $1 only. All mechanism manuals are online in PDF. Google them or go to my handy document as a starting point (not complete, but it's a start...): http://www.geocities.com/fredeshecter/flipswitch.doc -- """Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply. http://www.sirius.com/ "Paul Anderson" wrote in message news In article . com, Stefano MacGregor wrote: But that's a null operation if the machine sells nothing costing over a dollar, or does not accept $5 bills. Not exactly. If a machine takes $2 bills, purchasing an item costing less than $1 could return dollar coin(s) in change. Likewise, if a machine takes $5 bills, it could return dollar coins unless all items cost more than $4. And so on. While most machines made since 1979 can accept dollar coins (even if some have the inside switch set to the wrong setting) I think a minority have the ability to dispense dollar coins. Most machines that take dollar coins drop them into the bucket and have no way of dispensing them, nor are any dollar coins stored in the tubes. Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
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"Fred Shecter" wrote: How many machines on government property accept $2 bills?????????? Probably not many, but I used it as an example. I've used $2 bills in machines that claimed on the outside that they accepted only $1 or $1-5 or $1-5-10 bills only. Vending machine bill validators can be set to accept any denominations, but most are set for $1 only. That makes sense because unless the machine can give dollar coins as change, putting in a large bill for a small purchase would result in getting lots of quarters back. (That's happened to me and it's very annoying.) So Fred, analogous to some machines not having their "dollar coin switch" turned on, if a machine does not give dollar coins as change, is it more likely that there aren't enough tubes, or more likely that the tube that would be used for dollar coins simply hasn't been stocked with coins? Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
You can tell if a machine has a dollar coin tube.
Look at a dollar coin in your hand and note it's type (SBA, Saca, specific Prez / date / mint mark). Insert in machine. If it goes "Clunk" all the way into the bottom bin, then it either has no dollar tube in the changer or the dollar tube is full. If it does not go "CLUNK" and it makes the familiar sound of a coin not going very far, it is probably now in the top of the dollar coin tube. Hit coin return. If you get 4 quarters in change you know it has no dollar coin tube. If you get a dollar coin in change, then look at the type and see if it is the same coin you put in. If not, then there is a dollar coin tube. If so, then maybe the dollar coin tube was empty until you put in the first dollar coin. I've seen many Pepsi machines with dollar coin tubes full of coins. Put in Sacky, get out Susie. -Fred Shecter -- """Remove "zorch" from address (2 places) to reply. http://www.sirius.com/ "Paul Anderson" wrote in message news In article , "Fred Shecter" wrote: How many machines on government property accept $2 bills?????????? Probably not many, but I used it as an example. I've used $2 bills in machines that claimed on the outside that they accepted only $1 or $1-5 or $1-5-10 bills only. Vending machine bill validators can be set to accept any denominations, but most are set for $1 only. That makes sense because unless the machine can give dollar coins as change, putting in a large bill for a small purchase would result in getting lots of quarters back. (That's happened to me and it's very annoying.) So Fred, analogous to some machines not having their "dollar coin switch" turned on, if a machine does not give dollar coins as change, is it more likely that there aren't enough tubes, or more likely that the tube that would be used for dollar coins simply hasn't been stocked with coins? Paul -- Paul Anderson OpenVMS Engineering Hewlett-Packard Company |
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Vending group wants to backtrack on dollar coins
Paul Anderson wrote:
In article , "Fred Shecter" wrote: How many machines on government property accept $2 bills?????????? Probably not many, but I used it as an example. I've used $2 bills in machines that claimed on the outside that they accepted only $1 or $1-5 or $1-5-10 bills only. Vending machine bill validators can be set to accept any denominations, but most are set for $1 only. That makes sense because unless the machine can give dollar coins as change, putting in a large bill for a small purchase would result in getting lots of quarters back. (That's happened to me and it's very annoying.) So Fred, analogous to some machines not having their "dollar coin switch" turned on, if a machine does not give dollar coins as change, is it more likely that there aren't enough tubes, or more likely that the tube that would be used for dollar coins simply hasn't been stocked with coins? I think it is because the machines don't have the tubes and that not many are manufactured (except maybe for sale in Canada). CHICKEN - EGG sigh... JUST GET RID OF THOSE %#*&?! RAGS ALREADY!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrr.... -- ___________________________________________ ____ _______________ Regards, | |\ ____ | | | | |\ Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again! Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________ |
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