My mind is not easily boggled, but...

I've been having an email exchange with some fellow numismatists, and one of
them sent me this link:

http://www.archive.org:80/details/am...nalo11ameruoft

You may not be interested in the subject matter, but once you get to that
site, click on "flip book" over to the left, then use the arrows to turn the
pages. Somebody had to spend a lot of time at low or no wages to make that
happen.

The Internet never ceases to bring forth new wonders.

James

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
I've been having an email exchange with some fellow
numismatists, and one of them sent me this link:

http://www.archive.org:80/details/am...nalo11ameruoft

You may not be interested in the subject matter, but once
you get to that site, click on "flip book" over to the
left, then use the arrows to turn the pages. Somebody had
to spend a lot of time at low or no wages to make that
happen.

The Internet never ceases to bring forth new wonders.

Your loyal correspondent, having downloaded forthwith the
referenced journal in text form, humbly offers for your
attention the following items that were of particular
interest. oly, see No. 4. All, see the commentary at the
end on numismatic esthetics in 1877:

1. The mildly charming story of the lost and returned silver
quarter-dollar piece. The heretofore inexplicable practice
of reporting the felicitous reuniting with their owners of
various precious articles - not to mention various pet
animals - appears to be an irresistible and time-honored
staple of journals and journalism.

2. Various indications that the composition and proceedings
of coin clubs has changed little since 1877.

3. The peeved admission that the French commemorative issue
for America's first bicentennial is of better quality than
the artistry of our domestic offerings.

4. N.B. for oly - search for the term "real money". You
will find particular delight upon seeing your very own pet
screeds anent the sensory pleasure of silver specie and the
repulsiveness of fiat money reproduced there 132 years ahead
of your time. If I had the stamps, I would increase my
holdings in said specie.

As yet I have only skimmed less than ten per centum of the
contents of this amazing chronicle, but cannot resist
closing with a lengthy but instructive declamation in the
artistic merit (or perceived lack thereof) of U.S. coinage
in the year 1877. Any relation to similar screeds in this
newsgroup must certainly be coincidental, because the
following was written during what most would consider part
of the "golden age" of U.S. coin design. Remember, this is
in 1877:

"Why is it that we have the ugliest money of all civilized
nations?
For such undoubtedly our silver coinage is. The design is
poor,
commonplace, tasteless, characterless, and the execution is
like
thereunto. Our silver coins do not even look like money.
They
have rather the appearance of tokens or mean medals. One
reason of this is that the design is so inartistic and so
insignificant.
That young woman sitting on nothing in particular, wearing
nothing
to speak of, looking over her shoulder at nothing
imaginable, and
bearing in her left hand something that looks like a
broomstick
with a woolen nightcap on it what is she doing there? What
is the
meaning of her? She is Liberty, we are told, and there is a
label to
that effect across a shield at her right, her need of which
is not in
any way manifest. But she might as well be anything else as
Liberty;
and at the first glance she looks much more like a spinster
in her
smock, with a distaff in her hand.

"Such a figure has no proper place upon a coin. On the
reverse
the eagle has the contrary fault of being too natural, too
much like
a real eagle. In numismatic art animals have conventional
forms,
which are far more pleasing and effective than the most
careful and
exact imitation of nature can be. Compare one of our silver
coins
with those of Great Britain, France or Germany, and see how
mean,
slight, flimsy, inartistic and unmoneylike it looks. Our
coins of forty
or fifty years ago were much better in every respect, and
looked
much more like money, the reason being that they bore a head
of
Liberty which was bold, clear, and well defined in
comparison with
the weak thing that the Mint has given us for the last
thirty years
or so. The eagle too, although erring on the side of
naturalness,
was more suited in design to coinage.

"But still better were the coins struck at the end of the
last century
and the beginning of this one. The eagle was a real heraldic
eagle,
the head of Liberty had more character, and the whole work
was
bolder and better in every way. But even they had the great
defect
of being without significance in design. What is a head of
Liberty?
What distinctive character can be given to a head upon a
coin which
will make it more like Liberty than anything else? ...

"The coins of the French republic bear a head supposed to
typify the
Republic. It has in its features and in its decorations some
character and
significance, and it is bold and stands out in good relief,
as it should.
But we can do better than to use such mere abstractions, no
matter
how bold the design, how high the relief, or how fine the
workmanship.
From this utterly unmeaning and uninteresting condition our
coin might
be lifted by the substitution, in place of this so-called
Liberty, of two
heads, the appropriateness of which upon our coins and
indeed almost
their right to be there would be felt by every American, and
not only so,
but recognized by the whole world. It is hardly necessary to
say that the
heads we mean are those of Washington and Franklin.

"And fortune, nature, Providence, what you will so ordered
it that neither
of them left descendants of their own name to be elevated by
the
appearance of their ancestors' head upon a nation's coinage.
There are no
Washingtons, no Franklins to say, 'This is the image and
superscription of
the head of our family.' All democratic fear of the
elevation and glorification
of individuals or of families is therefore to be set aside
at once as having no
occasion. It so happens also that these two men represent
the two elements
of our population, the two great divisions of our country.
One was a Virginia
planter; the other, a Philadelphia printer, born in Boston,
grew from a printer
into a philosopher and a statesman. The proper place for
Washington's head
would be upon the gold pieces; for no one would dispute the
appropriateness of placing that of the author of ' Poor
Richard's Almanac,' and
of the adage, 'A penny saved is a penny earned,' upon the
silver coins
representing fractional parts of a dollar, and upon the
cents. Thus our gold
and silver coins would be distinguished from each other in
design, not as they
now are by the mere difference between a meaningless head
and a meaningless
sitting figure, but by two noble portrait busts of which an
American might be
prouder than any European ever was of the effigy of king or
kaiser.

"With this change and with a return to the old breadth of
piece, and the heraldic
eagle used in the beginning of this century (the two
examples now before us
are dated 1803 and 1805), we should have a coinage which
instead of being as
now the meanest in appearance and most insignificant of all
that is known, would
be the most beautiful and the most fraught with associations
of historic interest
and national pride. We commend the subject to the attention
of the House, and
hope that some member may be found who will take it up and
bring it before
the people."

Plus ça change, plus ça le même chose.

Ugh. The line breaks were bad, here's the editorial
commentary in more readable form:

"mazorj" wrote in message
...

....
Remember, this is in 1877:

"Why is it that we have the ugliest money of all civilized
nations? For such undoubtedly our silver coinage is. The
design is poor,commonplace, tasteless, characterless,
and the execution is like thereunto. Our silver coins do
not even look like money. They have rather the
appearance of tokens or mean medals. One
reason of this is that the design is so inartistic and so
insignificant. That young woman sitting on nothing in
particular, wearing nothing to speak of, looking over
her shoulder at nothing imaginable, and
bearing in her left hand something that looks like a
broomstick with a woolen nightcap on it what is she doing
there? What is the meaning of her? She is Liberty, we are
told, and there is a label to that effect across a shield at
her right, her need of which is not in any way manifest. But
she might as well be anything else as Liberty; and at the
first glance she looks much more like a spinster in her
smock, with a distaff in her hand.

"Such a figure has no proper place upon a coin. On the
reverse the eagle has the contrary fault of being too
natural, too much like a real eagle. In numismatic art
animals have conventional forms, which are far more pleasing
and effective than the most careful and exact imitation of
nature can be. Compare one of our silver coins with those of
Great Britain, France or Germany, and see how mean, slight,
flimsy, inartistic and unmoneylike it looks. Our coins of
forty or fifty years ago were much better in every respect,
and looked much more like money, the reason being that they
bore a head of Liberty which was bold, clear, and well
defined in comparison with the weak thing that the Mint has
given us for the last thirty years or so. The eagle too,
although erring on the side of naturalness, was more suited
in design to coinage.

"But still better were the coins struck at the end of the
last century and the beginning of this one. The eagle was a
real heraldic eagle, the head of Liberty had more character,
and the whole work was bolder and better in every way. But
even they had the great defect of being without significance
in design. What is a head of Liberty? What distinctive
character can be given to a head upon a coin which will make
it more like Liberty than anything else? ...

"The coins of the French republic bear a head supposed to
typify the Republic. It has in its features and in its
decorations some character and significance, and it is bold
and stands out in good relief, as it should. But we can do
better than to use such mere abstractions, no matter how
bold the design, how high the relief, or how fine the
workmanship. From this utterly unmeaning and uninteresting
condition our coin might be lifted by the substitution, in
place of this so-called Liberty, of two heads, the
appropriateness of which upon our coins and indeed almost
their right to be there would be felt by every American, and
not only so, but recognized by the whole world. It is hardly
necessary to say that the heads we mean are those of
Washington and Franklin.

"And fortune, nature, Providence, what you will so ordered
it that neither of them left descendants of their own name
to be elevated by the appearance of their ancestors' head
upon a nation's coinage. There are no Washingtons, no
Franklins to say, 'This is the image and superscription of
the head of our family.' All democratic fear of the
elevation and glorification of individuals or of families is
therefore to be set aside at once as having no occasion. It
so happens also that these two men represent the two
elements of our population, the two great divisions of our
country. One was a Virginia planter; the other, a
Philadelphia printer, born in Boston, grew from a printer
into a philosopher and a statesman. The proper place for
Washington's head would be upon the gold pieces; for no one
would dispute the appropriateness of placing that of the
author of ' Poor Richard's Almanac,' and of the adage, 'A
penny saved is a penny earned,' upon the silver coins
representing fractional parts of a dollar, and upon the
cents. Thus our gold and silver coins would be distinguished
from each other in design, not as they now are by the mere
difference between a meaningless head and a meaningless
sitting figure, but by two noble portrait busts of which an
American might be prouder than any European ever was of the
effigy of king or kaiser.

"With this change and with a return to the old breadth of
piece, and the heraldic eagle used in the beginning of this
century (the two examples now before us are dated 1803 and
1805), we should have a coinage which instead of being as
now the meanest in appearance and most insignificant of all
that is known, would be the most beautiful and the most
fraught with associations of historic interest and national
pride. We commend the subject to the attention of the House,
and hope that some member may be found who will take it up
and bring it before the people."

mazorj wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
I've been having an email exchange with some fellow
numismatists, and one of them sent me this link:

http://www.archive.org:80/details/am...nalo11ameruoft

You may not be interested in the subject matter, but once
you get to that site, click on "flip book" over to the
left, then use the arrows to turn the pages. Somebody had
to spend a lot of time at low or no wages to make that
happen.

The Internet never ceases to bring forth new wonders.

Your loyal correspondent, having downloaded forthwith the
referenced journal in text form, humbly offers for your
attention the following items that were of particular
interest. oly, see No. 4. All, see the commentary at the
end on numismatic esthetics in 1877:

1. The mildly charming story of the lost and returned silver
quarter-dollar piece. The heretofore inexplicable practice
of reporting the felicitous reuniting with their owners of
various precious articles - not to mention various pet
animals - appears to be an irresistible and time-honored
staple of journals and journalism.

2. Various indications that the composition and proceedings
of coin clubs has changed little since 1877.

3. The peeved admission that the French commemorative issue
for America's first bicentennial is of better quality than
the artistry of our domestic offerings.

4. N.B. for oly - search for the term "real money". You
will find particular delight upon seeing your very own pet
screeds anent the sensory pleasure of silver specie and the
repulsiveness of fiat money reproduced there 132 years ahead
of your time. If I had the stamps, I would increase my
holdings in said specie.

As yet I have only skimmed less than ten per centum of the
contents of this amazing chronicle, but cannot resist
closing with a lengthy but instructive declamation in the
artistic merit (or perceived lack thereof) of U.S. coinage
in the year 1877. Any relation to similar screeds in this
newsgroup must certainly be coincidental, because the
following was written during what most would consider part
of the "golden age" of U.S. coin design. Remember, this is
in 1877:

"Why is it that we have the ugliest money of all civilized
nations?
For such undoubtedly our silver coinage is. The design is
poor,
commonplace, tasteless, characterless, and the execution is
like
thereunto. Our silver coins do not even look like money.
They
have rather the appearance of tokens or mean medals. One
reason of this is that the design is so inartistic and so
insignificant.
That young woman sitting on nothing in particular, wearing
nothing
to speak of, looking over her shoulder at nothing
imaginable, and
bearing in her left hand something that looks like a
broomstick
with a woolen nightcap on it what is she doing there? What
is the
meaning of her? She is Liberty, we are told, and there is a
label to
that effect across a shield at her right, her need of which
is not in
any way manifest. But she might as well be anything else as
Liberty;
and at the first glance she looks much more like a spinster
in her
smock, with a distaff in her hand.

"Such a figure has no proper place upon a coin. On the
reverse
the eagle has the contrary fault of being too natural, too
much like
a real eagle. In numismatic art animals have conventional
forms,
which are far more pleasing and effective than the most
careful and
exact imitation of nature can be. Compare one of our silver
coins
with those of Great Britain, France or Germany, and see how
mean,
slight, flimsy, inartistic and unmoneylike it looks. Our
coins of forty
or fifty years ago were much better in every respect, and
looked
much more like money, the reason being that they bore a head
of
Liberty which was bold, clear, and well defined in
comparison with
the weak thing that the Mint has given us for the last
thirty years
or so. The eagle too, although erring on the side of
naturalness,
was more suited in design to coinage.

"But still better were the coins struck at the end of the
last century
and the beginning of this one. The eagle was a real heraldic
eagle,
the head of Liberty had more character, and the whole work
was
bolder and better in every way. But even they had the great
defect
of being without significance in design. What is a head of
Liberty?
What distinctive character can be given to a head upon a
coin which
will make it more like Liberty than anything else? ...

"The coins of the French republic bear a head supposed to
typify the
Republic. It has in its features and in its decorations some
character and
significance, and it is bold and stands out in good relief,
as it should.
But we can do better than to use such mere abstractions, no
matter
how bold the design, how high the relief, or how fine the
workmanship.
From this utterly unmeaning and uninteresting condition our
coin might
be lifted by the substitution, in place of this so-called
Liberty, of two
heads, the appropriateness of which upon our coins and
indeed almost
their right to be there would be felt by every American, and
not only so,
but recognized by the whole world. It is hardly necessary to
say that the
heads we mean are those of Washington and Franklin.

"And fortune, nature, Providence, what you will so ordered
it that neither
of them left descendants of their own name to be elevated by
the
appearance of their ancestors' head upon a nation's coinage.
There are no
Washingtons, no Franklins to say, 'This is the image and
superscription of
the head of our family.' All democratic fear of the
elevation and glorification
of individuals or of families is therefore to be set aside
at once as having no
occasion. It so happens also that these two men represent
the two elements
of our population, the two great divisions of our country.
One was a Virginia
planter; the other, a Philadelphia printer, born in Boston,
grew from a printer
into a philosopher and a statesman. The proper place for
Washington's head
would be upon the gold pieces; for no one would dispute the
appropriateness of placing that of the author of ' Poor
Richard's Almanac,' and
of the adage, 'A penny saved is a penny earned,' upon the
silver coins
representing fractional parts of a dollar, and upon the
cents. Thus our gold
and silver coins would be distinguished from each other in
design, not as they
now are by the mere difference between a meaningless head
and a meaningless
sitting figure, but by two noble portrait busts of which an
American might be
prouder than any European ever was of the effigy of king or
kaiser.

"With this change and with a return to the old breadth of
piece, and the heraldic
eagle used in the beginning of this century (the two
examples now before us
are dated 1803 and 1805), we should have a coinage which
instead of being as
now the meanest in appearance and most insignificant of all
that is known, would
be the most beautiful and the most fraught with associations
of historic interest
and national pride. We commend the subject to the attention
of the House, and
hope that some member may be found who will take it up and
bring it before
the people."

Plus ça change, plus ça le même chose.

Oh Mon Dieu, j'ai créé un monstre!

Jacques

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
mazorj wrote:

....
Remember, this is in 1877:

"Why is it that we have the ugliest money of all
civilized nations?
For such undoubtedly our silver coinage is. The design is
poor,
commonplace, tasteless, characterless, and the execution
is like
thereunto. Our silver coins do not even look like money.
They
have rather the appearance of tokens or mean medals. One
reason of this is that the design is so inartistic and so
insignificant.
That young woman sitting on nothing in particular,
wearing nothing
to speak of, looking over her shoulder at nothing
imaginable, and
bearing in her left hand something that looks like a
broomstick
with a woolen nightcap on it what is she doing there?
What is the
meaning of her? She is Liberty, we are told, and there is
a label to
that effect across a shield at her right, her need of
which is not in
any way manifest. But she might as well be anything else
as Liberty;
and at the first glance she looks much more like a
spinster in her
smock, with a distaff in her hand.

"Such a figure has no proper place upon a coin. On the
reverse
the eagle has the contrary fault of being too natural,
too much like
a real eagle. In numismatic art animals have conventional
forms,
which are far more pleasing and effective than the most
careful and
exact imitation of nature can be. Compare one of our
silver coins
with those of Great Britain, France or Germany, and see
how mean,
slight, flimsy, inartistic and unmoneylike it looks. Our
coins of forty
or fifty years ago were much better in every respect,
andlooked
much more like money, the reason being that they bore a
head
of Liberty which was bold, clear, and well defined
incomparison with
the weak thing that the Mint has given us for the last
thirty years
or so. The eagle too, although erring on the side of
naturalness,
was more suited in design to coinage.

"But still better were the coins struck at the end of the
last century
and the beginning of this one. The eagle was a real
heraldic eagle,
the head of Liberty had more character, and the whole
work was
bolder and better in every way. But even they had the
great defect
of being without significance in design. What is a head
of Liberty?
What distinctive character can be given to a head upon a
coin which
will make it more like Liberty than anything else? ...

"The coins of the French republic bear a head supposed to
typify the
Republic. It has in its features and in its decorations
some character and
significance, and it is bold and stands out in good
relief, as it should.
But we can do better than to use such mere abstractions,
no matter
how bold the design, how high the relief, or how fine the
workmanship.
From this utterly unmeaning and uninteresting condition
our coin might
be lifted by the substitution, in place of this so-called
Liberty, of two
heads, the appropriateness of which upon our coins and
indeed almost
their right to be there would be felt by every American,
and not only so,
but recognized by the whole world. It is hardly necessary
to say that the
heads we mean are those of Washington and Franklin.

"And fortune, nature, Providence, what you will so
ordered it that neither
of them left descendants of their own name to be elevated
by the
appearance of their ancestors' head upon a nation's
coinage.
There are no Washingtons, no Franklins to say, 'This is
the image and
superscription of the head of our family.' All democratic
fear of the
elevation and glorification of individuals or of families
is therefore to be set asideat once as having no
occasion. It so happens also that these two men represent
the two elements
of our population, the two great divisions of our
country. One was a Virginia
planter; the other, a Philadelphia printer, born in
Boston, grew from a printer
into a philosopher and a statesman. The proper place for
Washington's head
would be upon the gold pieces; for no one would dispute
the
appropriateness of placing that of the author of ' Poor
Richard's Almanac,' and
of the adage, 'A penny saved is a penny earned,' upon the
silver coins
representing fractional parts of a dollar, and upon the
cents. Thus our gold
and silver coins would be distinguished from each other
in design, not as they
now are by the mere difference between a meaningless head
and a meaningless sitting figure, but by two noble
portrait busts of which an
American might be prouder than any European ever was of
the effigy of king or kaiser.

"With this change and with a return to the old breadth of
piece, and the heraldic
eagle used in the beginning of this century (the two
examples now before us
are dated 1803 and 1805), we should have a coinage which
instead of being as
now the meanest in appearance and most insignificant of
all that is known, would
be the most beautiful and the most fraught with
associations of historic interest
and national pride. We commend the subject to the
attention of the House, and
hope that some member may be found who will take it up
and bring it before the people."

Plus ça change, plus ça le même chose.

Oh Mon Dieu, j'ai créé un monstre!

Jacques

The parallels are startling, n'est pas? Even down to the
part about appealing to the House of Representatives.

mazorj wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
mazorj wrote:

...
Remember, this is in 1877:

"Why is it that we have the ugliest money of all
civilized nations?
For such undoubtedly our silver coinage is. The design is
poor,
commonplace, tasteless, characterless, and the execution
is like
thereunto. Our silver coins do not even look like money.
They
have rather the appearance of tokens or mean medals. One
reason of this is that the design is so inartistic and so
insignificant.
That young woman sitting on nothing in particular,
wearing nothing
to speak of, looking over her shoulder at nothing
imaginable, and
bearing in her left hand something that looks like a
broomstick
with a woolen nightcap on it what is she doing there?
What is the
meaning of her? She is Liberty, we are told, and there is
a label to
that effect across a shield at her right, her need of
which is not in
any way manifest. But she might as well be anything else
as Liberty;
and at the first glance she looks much more like a
spinster in her
smock, with a distaff in her hand.

"Such a figure has no proper place upon a coin. On the
reverse
the eagle has the contrary fault of being too natural,
too much like
a real eagle. In numismatic art animals have conventional
forms,
which are far more pleasing and effective than the most
careful and
exact imitation of nature can be. Compare one of our
silver coins
with those of Great Britain, France or Germany, and see
how mean,
slight, flimsy, inartistic and unmoneylike it looks. Our
coins of forty
or fifty years ago were much better in every respect,
andlooked
much more like money, the reason being that they bore a
head
of Liberty which was bold, clear, and well defined
incomparison with
the weak thing that the Mint has given us for the last
thirty years
or so. The eagle too, although erring on the side of
naturalness,
was more suited in design to coinage.

"But still better were the coins struck at the end of the
last century
and the beginning of this one. The eagle was a real
heraldic eagle,
the head of Liberty had more character, and the whole
work was
bolder and better in every way. But even they had the
great defect
of being without significance in design. What is a head
of Liberty?
What distinctive character can be given to a head upon a
coin which
will make it more like Liberty than anything else? ...

"The coins of the French republic bear a head supposed to
typify the
Republic. It has in its features and in its decorations
some character and
significance, and it is bold and stands out in good
relief, as it should.
But we can do better than to use such mere abstractions,
no matter
how bold the design, how high the relief, or how fine the
workmanship.
From this utterly unmeaning and uninteresting condition
our coin might
be lifted by the substitution, in place of this so-called
Liberty, of two
heads, the appropriateness of which upon our coins and
indeed almost
their right to be there would be felt by every American,
and not only so,
but recognized by the whole world. It is hardly necessary
to say that the
heads we mean are those of Washington and Franklin.

"And fortune, nature, Providence, what you will so
ordered it that neither
of them left descendants of their own name to be elevated
by the
appearance of their ancestors' head upon a nation's
coinage.
There are no Washingtons, no Franklins to say, 'This is
the image and
superscription of the head of our family.' All democratic
fear of the
elevation and glorification of individuals or of families
is therefore to be set asideat once as having no
occasion. It so happens also that these two men represent
the two elements
of our population, the two great divisions of our
country. One was a Virginia
planter; the other, a Philadelphia printer, born in
Boston, grew from a printer
into a philosopher and a statesman. The proper place for
Washington's head
would be upon the gold pieces; for no one would dispute
the
appropriateness of placing that of the author of ' Poor
Richard's Almanac,' and
of the adage, 'A penny saved is a penny earned,' upon the
silver coins
representing fractional parts of a dollar, and upon the
cents. Thus our gold
and silver coins would be distinguished from each other
in design, not as they
now are by the mere difference between a meaningless head
and a meaningless sitting figure, but by two noble
portrait busts of which an
American might be prouder than any European ever was of
the effigy of king or kaiser.

"With this change and with a return to the old breadth of
piece, and the heraldic
eagle used in the beginning of this century (the two
examples now before us
are dated 1803 and 1805), we should have a coinage which
instead of being as
now the meanest in appearance and most insignificant of
all that is known, would
be the most beautiful and the most fraught with
associations of historic interest
and national pride. We commend the subject to the
attention of the House, and
hope that some member may be found who will take it up
and bring it before the people."

Plus ça change, plus ça le même chose.

Oh Mon Dieu, j'ai créé un monstre!

Jacques

The parallels are startling, n'est pas? Even down to the
part about appealing to the House of Representatives.

Yeah, I've never been that crazy about the seated lib stuff myself. I say,
bring back the draped bust/large eagle design! Think I'll write my
congressperson immediately.

James

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

....
Yeah, I've never been that crazy about the seated lib stuff myself.
I say, bring back the draped bust/large eagle design!

Personally, I'd go the other way: a large bust/draped eagle motif.
Sans bustier, of course, with Sophia Loren doing the sitting for Miss
Liberty. And a reprise of the partially undraped standing Liberty
quarter - in ultra-high relief - would be far more interesting than
the planned parks series.

While we're at it, throw in a high-relief Mae West commem. Show a
lifelike bust depiction on the obverse, with the reverse inscription
"Is that a roll of quarters in your pocket or are you just happy to
see me?".

mazorj wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

...
Yeah, I've never been that crazy about the seated lib stuff myself.
I say, bring back the draped bust/large eagle design!

Personally, I'd go the other way: a large bust/draped eagle motif.
Sans bustier, of course, with Sophia Loren doing the sitting for Miss
Liberty. And a reprise of the partially undraped standing Liberty
quarter - in ultra-high relief - would be far more interesting than
the planned parks series.

While we're at it, throw in a high-relief Mae West commem. Show a
lifelike bust depiction on the obverse, with the reverse inscription
"Is that a roll of quarters in your pocket or are you just happy to
see me?".

....quickly...taking...blood...pressure...medicine ...

....James...

On Mar 15, 11:00*am, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com
wrote:
I've been having an email exchange with some fellow numismatists, and one of
them sent me this link:
http://www.archive.org:80/details/am...nalo11ameruoft
The Internet never ceases to bring forth new wonders.

Archive.Org is a wonderful warehouse of stored content. The Wayback
Machine is an inventory of old webpages. I have been enjoying their
old movies, especially the educational films and training films. I
found the books and I liked the turning pages, but I did not see the
AJN, so thanks! for the link to that. Archive.Org is a 501c3, so, as
I benefit from using it, I sent them $25.

Mike M.
MIchael E. Marotta
"You pays yer money and you makes yer choices."

mazorj wrote:

While we're at it, throw in a high-relief Mae West commem. Show a
lifelike bust depiction on the obverse, with the reverse inscription
"Is that a roll of quarters in your pocket or are you just happy to
see me?".

Won't happen, for the reason that they won't stack well. 8-)