Essay Type or Cinderella

I have a stamp that has all the appearance of being an Essay type E1. Big
problem it is perf'd 10 1/2 and blue and looks like a relatively recent
printing. The two fives at the bottom of the stamp are overprinted with a
rectangular that contains the number 50 with two dashes on the left and right
of the fifty. The overprint appears to have been printed at the same time and
same press as the orignal stamp. It is less like an overprint as an actual
part of printing of the stamp. Probably a cinderella but I have not found any
documentation on this time. I wasn't aware that it was legal to print U.S.
stamps, essays or otherwise, unless over or undersized. This printing appears
to be the exact dimensions of the original essay but of a different color and
perf'd. Any help would be appearciated, Please send via email to
. Will send picture if it will help.

From: (Rcbandsb)
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Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Date: 13 Jul 2003 01:06:30 GMT
Subject: Essay Type or Cinderella

I have a stamp that has all the appearance of being an Essay type E1. Big
problem it is perf'd 10 1/2 and blue and looks like a relatively recent
printing. The two fives at the bottom of the stamp are overprinted with a
rectangular that contains the number 50 with two dashes on the left and right
of the fifty. The overprint appears to have been printed at the same time and
same press as the orignal stamp. It is less like an overprint as an actual
part of printing of the stamp. Probably a cinderella but I have not found any
documentation on this time. I wasn't aware that it was legal to print U.S.
stamps, essays or otherwise, unless over or undersized. This printing appears
to be the exact dimensions of the original essay but of a different color and
perf'd. Any help would be appearciated, Please send via email to
. Will send picture if it will help.

rcbandsb:

I have no idea myself what this might be, but I'm sure some of our members
might. If you don't have a web site, you may send an image to me and I'll
upload it to my web site so people can see it.

BTW, newsgroup members appreciate being able to follow such discussions in
the newsgroup. Private e-mailed responses run counter to the whole reason
for the existence of newsgroups.

Bob Ingraham

For those of us not familiar what an essay type E1 is, it would have been
helpful to let us know what country you are talking about. Also, same
comment as Bob Ingraham.

Tony

"Bob Ingraham" wrote in message
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From: (Rcbandsb)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Date: 13 Jul 2003 01:06:30 GMT
Subject: Essay Type or Cinderella

I have a stamp that has all the appearance of being an Essay type E1.
Big
problem it is perf'd 10 1/2 and blue and looks like a relatively recent
printing. The two fives at the bottom of the stamp are overprinted with
a
rectangular that contains the number 50 with two dashes on the left and
right
of the fifty. The overprint appears to have been printed at the same
time and
same press as the orignal stamp. It is less like an overprint as an
actual
part of printing of the stamp. Probably a cinderella but I have not
found any
documentation on this time. I wasn't aware that it was legal to print
U.S.
stamps, essays or otherwise, unless over or undersized. This printing
appears
to be the exact dimensions of the original essay but of a different
color and
perf'd. Any help would be appearciated, Please send via email to
. Will send picture if it will help.

rcbandsb:

I have no idea myself what this might be, but I'm sure some of our members
might. If you don't have a web site, you may send an image to me and I'll
upload it to my web site so people can see it.

BTW, newsgroup members appreciate being able to follow such discussions in
the newsgroup. Private e-mailed responses run counter to the whole reason
for the existence of newsgroups.

Bob Ingraham

My apologies, it was stupid of me not to put the country name in question into
my query. It is the United States, Scott Catalogue Number 1- E1, 1847 issue
by Rawdon,Wright, Hatch and Edson, to which I am making reference. And I will
shortly send a picture to Mr. Ingraham on the matter. Incidentally I am a
volunteer at the Boystown Stamp Center at Omaha Nebraska. This item came in as
part of a donation. Normally I have no trouble IDing U.S. issues as a matter
of fact I was the one that was written up in Scott magazine and twice in
Linn's on finding the Orangeburg Coil pair in a lot of socalled odds and ends
we received. It was returned to the sender as obviously sent in error and it
was sold at auction for $110,000. So it is frustrating that I can't come up
with something on this item, but I am still always open minded to learn from
those more knowledgeable than me. Again my apologies for forgetting to list
the country, guess it must be old age catching up to me as I just past 80 a few
months past.

On 13 Jul 2003 20:46:59 GMT, (Rcbandsb) found these
unused words floating about:

My apologies, it was stupid of me not to put the country name in question into
my query. It is the United States, Scott Catalogue Number 1- E1, 1847 issue
by Rawdon,Wright, Hatch and Edson, to which I am making reference. And I will
shortly send a picture to Mr. Ingraham on the matter. Incidentally I am a
volunteer at the Boystown Stamp Center at Omaha Nebraska. This item came in as
part of a donation. Normally I have no trouble IDing U.S. issues as a matter
of fact I was the one that was written up in Scott magazine and twice in
Linn's on finding the Orangeburg Coil pair in a lot of socalled odds and ends
we received. It was returned to the sender as obviously sent in error and it
was sold at auction for $110,000. So it is frustrating that I can't come up
with something on this item, but I am still always open minded to learn from
those more knowledgeable than me. Again my apologies for forgetting to list
the country, guess it must be old age catching up to me as I just past 80 a few
months past.

I'm thinking is has something to do with a single from the 1947 CIPEX
sheetlet, Scott 948. That's the only 'blue' #1 I can recall ... but
overprinted?

My apologies, it was stupid of me not to put the country name in question
into
my query. It is the United States, Scott Catalogue Number 1- E1, 1847 issue
by Rawdon,Wright, Hatch and Edson, to which I am making reference. And I
will
shortly send a picture to Mr. Ingraham on the matter.

Actually, you did indicate the country of origin when you said, "I wasn't
aware that it was legal to print U.S. stamps, essays or otherwise, unless
over or undersized."

Anyway, here is the image: http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/Cinderella.jpg. It's
definitely not from the 1947 S/S, not is it old.

Bob

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:58:22 GMT, Bob Ingraham
found these unused words floating about:

My apologies, it was stupid of me not to put the country name in question
into
my query. It is the United States, Scott Catalogue Number 1- E1, 1847 issue
by Rawdon,Wright, Hatch and Edson, to which I am making reference. And I
will
shortly send a picture to Mr. Ingraham on the matter.

Actually, you did indicate the country of origin when you said, "I wasn't
aware that it was legal to print U.S. stamps, essays or otherwise, unless
over or undersized."

Anyway, here is the image: http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/Cinderella.jpg. It's
definitely not from the 1947 S/S, not is it old.

Bob

With the date of 1997 (the 150th anniv. of 1st U.S. postal issue) I'd
look at one of the many mass label issuing 'countries' or 'souvnir
producers'.

Without a country name - it's into the cinderella class. Could it be a
piece from a children's 'game'?

Other than some difficulties with copying the left eyebrow, it even
has a minor flaw present in the 1947 sheetlet. G

This is a single from the PACIFIC 97 sheet issued May 29, 1997 in San
Francisco.

Scott catalog #3139


"Bob Ingraham" wrote in message
...
My apologies, it was stupid of me not to put the country name in
question
into
my query. It is the United States, Scott Catalogue Number 1- E1, 1847
issue
by Rawdon,Wright, Hatch and Edson, to which I am making reference. And
I
will
shortly send a picture to Mr. Ingraham on the matter.

Actually, you did indicate the country of origin when you said, "I wasn't
aware that it was legal to print U.S. stamps, essays or otherwise, unless
over or undersized."

Anyway, here is the image: http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/Cinderella.jpg.
It's
definitely not from the 1947 S/S, not is it old.

Bob

Thanks a bunch. I just couldn't see the forest for the trees. That's one
trouble with the U.S. Postal Service anymore, too many stamps. One tends to
forgot the obvious and look for the more difficult. Will certainly make use of
this site in the future, albeit it is a bit embarassing missing so obvious a
solution.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 03:19:31 GMT, Bob Ingraham
found these unused words floating about:

Thanks a bunch. I just couldn't see the forest for the trees. That's one
trouble with the U.S. Postal Service anymore, too many stamps. One tends to
forgot the obvious and look for the more difficult. Will certainly make use
of this site in the future, albeit it is a bit embarassing missing so obvious
a solution.

"Scott blindness" is well known to the some members of this newsgroup, but
you must suffer at least three instances of blindness to be admitted to the
SBC -- the "Scott Blindness Club".

Everyone knows that USPS issues too many stamps. Except USPS!

Bob Ingraham

Does look like a child's game piece, doesn't it?

Also says something about the USPS 'choices'. I gave up my US wheh the
50 stamp 'sheets' started appearing.

Wonder if they've considered a 25 stamp/sheet 'local' series on gang
tags ... Hmmmm ? Could do one for each city or geo-area.