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Kiss Good Bye the FIP Web Site Competitions
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http://www.norbyhus.dk/fipliterature/fipeval03.html I have found, by chance, as follows: "2003 FIP Web Site Evaluation Cancelled The FIP evaluation of philatelic Web sites for 2003 has been canceled, according to Francis Kiddle, president of the FIP Literature Commission and FIP director, Charles Peterson. The need for this action was realized last month when the requirements of other duties of the primary participants in the operation of these evaluations this summer became apparent. .... It is anticipated that these evaluations will probably be resumed in 2004. Robert de Violini " The mentioned page was published on 06/29/2003, which coincides, by chance, with exactly the day when I have applied to the competition, with the Spanish Africa site (sorry Tracy, no chance). Just to notice that the FIP site still invites us to participate in this obsolete competition: http://www.f-i-p.ch/competitions/competition.htm I can imagine that the large discussion that took place on this NG, and the fact that the PWO has informed the FIP officials as well about it, as about its own position on the subject, have incited the FIP and its Literature Commission to look more seriously at what they were doing in this respect. http://www.pwmo.org/articles/fip-award2002-answer.htm It confirms again, IMHO, that the FIP Literature Commission hat fully deserved their recently won Fenny Cup Award: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/contes...award-2003.htm Victor Manta PWO ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org 1900 Links Online: http://pwmo.org/weblinks/links.asp Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 08:53:05 +0200, Bjorn Bakken
wrote: Victor Manta wrote: On the page: http://www.norbyhus.dk/fipliterature/fipeval03.html I have found, by chance, as follows: "2003 FIP Web Site Evaluation Cancelled The FIP evaluation of philatelic Web sites for 2003 has been canceled, according to Francis Kiddle, president of the FIP Literature Commission and FIP director, Charles Peterson. The need for this action was realized last month when the requirements of other duties of the primary participants in the operation of these evaluations this summer became apparent. ... It is anticipated that these evaluations will probably be resumed in 2004. Robert de Violini " ----------- My primary reaction to this message is sadness. This defensive answer to my initial complaints is not surprising, but is definitely not what I wanted...!! I think that web site competitions are an important part of the future of philately, and I sincerely hope that FIP will bring new persons into their organization to re-establish this annual competition again soon.... Hopefully with a little more talent and time to do what they proposed to do. Tracy Barber |
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Pierre Courtiade wrote:
wrote : FIP ???? . How many collectors really carewhat the FIP does or for that matter says ? . I would bet that I could go to any one of several stamp clubs and ask what the FIP is and what it does and not one in a hundred collectors could answer either part one or part two correctly. . And among the one in several hundred who could offer more than a mumbling guess I have the feeling that few could cite any realistic involvement. . So for the life of me I do not see what this organization does for the average stamp collector beyond provide a slush fund for self declared philatelic muckty mucks. Charlie, Agreed :-) I could express the same opinion for my national philatelic association (FFAP Fédération Française des Associations Philatéliques). For an average collector like myself : I am a member of a very small (~ 25 members) stamp club (at home near Paris) not affiliated to FFAP and of a larger one (~100 members) near my cottage in Brittany, affilated to FFAP. The only add-on from FFAP (for me) is that the annual fee is 50 % higher in the larger (and FFAP affiliated) stamp club :-((( Where goes this extra money ? In a lot of different things I imagine, but I know at least those : - paying accomodation to FFAP directors or judges when they visit exhibitions - administrative expenses - fees to the FIP - promoting philately amongst youngters I do agree with this last purpose, but they are not very efficient in it. I'm wondering what are your opinions on your national philatelic associations ? For the US, the American Philatelic Society provides a number of services that are mostly listed on the web page http://www.stamps.org/Services/index.htm. In addition, member clubs have access to a library of philatelic presentations on slides and video. I find it worth-while being a member. = Eric |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:24:41 -0700, Eric Bustad
found these unused words floating about: Pierre Courtiade wrote: wrote : FIP ???? . How many collectors really carewhat the FIP does or for that matter says ? . I would bet that I could go to any one of several stamp clubs and ask what the FIP is and what it does and not one in a hundred collectors could answer either part one or part two correctly. . And among the one in several hundred who could offer more than a mumbling guess I have the feeling that few could cite any realistic involvement. . So for the life of me I do not see what this organization does for the average stamp collector beyond provide a slush fund for self declared philatelic muckty mucks. Charlie, Agreed :-) I could express the same opinion for my national philatelic association (FFAP Fédération Française des Associations Philatéliques). For an average collector like myself : I am a member of a very small (~ 25 members) stamp club (at home near Paris) not affiliated to FFAP and of a larger one (~100 members) near my cottage in Brittany, affilated to FFAP. The only add-on from FFAP (for me) is that the annual fee is 50 % higher in the larger (and FFAP affiliated) stamp club :-((( Where goes this extra money ? In a lot of different things I imagine, but I know at least those : - paying accomodation to FFAP directors or judges when they visit exhibitions - administrative expenses - fees to the FIP - promoting philately amongst youngters I do agree with this last purpose, but they are not very efficient in it. I'm wondering what are your opinions on your national philatelic associations ? For the US, the American Philatelic Society provides a number of services that are mostly listed on the web page http://www.stamps.org/Services/index.htm. In addition, member clubs have access to a library of philatelic presentations on slides and video. I find it worth-while being a member. While that -may- be true today (no current experience) ... in the '80s they pretty much ignored the smaller clubs, except when it came time to pay annual dues. We ended up making our own presentations because we couldn't get the APeS to send any or even return a letter of inquiry. Other societies did supply programs. Guess it all boils down to what contact you can make -within- the 'parent' organization ... |
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