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Field Guide to Trolls
Field Guide to Forum Trolls
A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. THE MAJOR BREEDS The Vulgar Troll These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species. Often, they make racist comments, or they may post porn and other Spam. Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane, off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts," you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert to this form when cornered. The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves, sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag of tricks to which they turn: -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it. -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ. -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you. -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now, finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before. Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the forumites. -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not be able to resist posting again. -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens. The Contrarian Troll A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but due to the manner in which he or she behaves: -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry. Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule anyone who disagrees with you." -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no ready answers. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath his notice. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned above. The Agenda Troll Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue the spat. -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to spread his or her negative opinion of Instructor X. -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation. Sophist Trolls Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and intolerant species. -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide, condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words, committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth. -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind. The Artistic Troll A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most dangerous species. TROLL SPOTTING Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common: 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be causing trouble. 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or complain to the Moderator. 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses identical to that of the TiQ. 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five usernames for a single account. 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto one that they can control. 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will display traits similar to that of the TiQ. NATURAL PREDATORS Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these: Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling. Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating to all breeds. Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous. Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified when a troll rears its ugly head. Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to be underestimated. --originally posted by Nasty Habit of TexasMinutemen.org, 5/28/2001 |
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Field Guide to Trolls
"Frank Provasek" wrote in message ups.com... Field Guide to Forum Trolls A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. Your posting this obviously puts you in both groups. jim menning |
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Field Guide to Trolls
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:44:15 GMT, "jim menning"
wrote: "Frank Provasek" wrote in message oups.com... Field Guide to Forum Trolls A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. Your posting this obviously puts you in both groups. jim menning Indeed the Provasek Troll is well known. Ask in the scouting groups Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:02:36 -0500 (CDT) To: "Frank Provasek" Subject: Abuse complaint: Privileges Suspended From: "SBC Service Abuse" Hello, Thank you for contacting SBC Internet Security Department. I apologize for sending the incorrect link to our AUP. The correct link is http://help.sbcglobal.net/article.php?item=441&. SBC has sent you warnings in January, March, August and October 8th of this year. This past week, we continue to receive complaints in regards to your spam and off topic postings. Regardless of charters, you are still obligated to adhere to our TOS/AUP. And we reserve the right to monitor activity especially when so many complaints are received. You can have your privileges reinstated if you reaffirm your agreement with the TOS and AUP by replying as much to this email. Once the account is reinstated, it will be placed in a hold status. This means that none of your posts will be propagated until they are approved by one of the staff, so expect delays. Another TOS violation will result in the cancellation of your account, and the possible imposition of the fines provided for by the TOS. Thank you, Dawn SBCIS |
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Field Guide to Trolls
Frank Provasek wrote: Field Guide to Forum Trolls A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. Way to go Frank!! Thanks for continuing to paint a target onto RCC's butt and daring someone to shoot at it. I agree with Jim. The above describes you perfectly. Except that you left out the fact that you are a k00k. |
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Field Guide to Trolls
Thanks, Frank. You are the best. Happy 2006.
-Wayne Frank Provasek wrote: Field Guide to Forum Trolls A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. THE MAJOR BREEDS The Vulgar Troll These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species. Often, they make racist comments, or they may post porn and other Spam. Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane, off-topic observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious Philosophical Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts," you've spotted the Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert to this form when cornered. The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic Troll gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or she is not. Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves, sometimes weaving some amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of lies is difficult to build with consistency, however, Classics are often "outed" by other forumites. When this happens, Classic Trolls have a bag of tricks to which they turn: -Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it was all "a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by claiming people just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it. -Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending to be someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question (TiQ). These puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third parties. At other times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ. -Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim that your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your account and made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in claiming that the puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be disinterested third parties or friends, but that they are your relatives ("little brother" is most common) only trying to help support you. -Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now, finally, you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before. Make up a fresh set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the forumites. -Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving forever. Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you can bet that anyone who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will most certainly at least check back for responses, and probably will not be able to resist posting again. -Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often they revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens. The Contrarian Troll A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose predominant opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by those who support firearms and knife rights, for example, will invariably be visited by Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in the benefits of gun control. It is important to distinguish between dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but due to the manner in which he or she behaves: -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry. Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule anyone who disagrees with you." -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no ready answers. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is the accusers who are trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath his notice. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by Troll Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics as beneath notice, all the while continuing to respond to them. -Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned above. The Agenda Troll Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to pursue an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another member, or perhaps a dispute with some party not participating in that forum. When a flame war erupts on another board, for example, Agenda Trolls will follow their opponents to other forums in order to continue the spat. -Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who thinks Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has been ripped off or otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will visit forums devoted to self-defense and martial arts in order to spread his or her negative opinion of Instructor X. -Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these are Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of their own. They are not often troublesome, though their shameless plugging is met with varying degrees of irritation. Sophist Trolls Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and intolerant species. -When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary views, Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide, condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." -When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words, committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth. -When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most hypocritical and aggravating of Trollkind. The Artistic Troll A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent individuals who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what they do specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing the techniques of Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites along until some point in time designated by their own desires, at which point they will reveal the ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at everyone for being stupid enough to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight in sowing discord, but do it in a highly developed and fully aware manner. They do not care if they are despised, and do not seek the approval of forum participants. Chaos is their only goal, and preferably chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt, this is the most dangerous species. TROLL SPOTTING Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common: 1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a forum to rack up a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of any poster whose count is not yet in double digits and who appears to be causing trouble. 2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of their own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto one that they like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or complain to the Moderator. 3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses identical to that of the TiQ. 4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to those of the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for example, are particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five usernames for a single account. 5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire diatribes of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto one that they can control. 6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will display traits similar to that of the TiQ. NATURAL PREDATORS Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these: Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator can lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the troll is banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling. Moderators are normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose trolls, which makes them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating to all breeds. Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to possess an almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the tools and tactics of trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they see them. Often the first to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll Bashers are experienced and venomous. Often accused of being trolls themselves, Troll Bashers understand the difference between the initiation of trolling and the retaliation against it, and believe any amount of retaliatory abuse is justified when a troll rears its ugly head. Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of Troll Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when they gather in groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to equal the danger represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to be underestimated. --originally posted by Nasty Habit of TexasMinutemen.org, 5/28/2001 |
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Field Guide to Trolls
neutral wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:44:15 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: "Frank Provasek" wrote in message oups.com... Field Guide to Forum Trolls A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. Your posting this obviously puts you in both groups. jim menning Indeed the Provasek Troll is well known. Ask in the scouting groups Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:02:36 -0500 (CDT) To: "Frank Provasek" Subject: Abuse complaint: Privileges Suspended From: "SBC Service Abuse" Hello, You can have your privileges reinstated if you reaffirm your agreement with the TOS and AUP by replying as much to this email. Once the account is reinstated, it will be placed in a hold status. This means that none of your posts will be propagated until they are approved by one of the staff, so expect delays. Another TOS violation will result in the cancellation of your account, and the possible imposition of the fines provided for by the TOS. Thank you, Dawn SBCIS You netcopped Frank? That's still bull****. And check this out: SCB Yahoo! can't provide their paying customers a decent level of customer support. Try asking them any question beyond "I forgot my password" and see how absoutely useless they are. Yet apparently whiny little netcops can get an immediate response from a person who actually speaks English. Their priorities are absolutely skewed. If I got a letter like that, I'd tell "Dawn" to go **** herself in no uncertain terms. One can only hope they move Usenet support to India. A |
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Field Guide to Trolls
On 29 Dec 2005 06:10:25 -0800, "Frank Provasek"
wrote: A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention. You'll get flamed for this. But even funnier is how people respond to trolls. They respond in exactly the way trolls want them too. I've only skimmed, and very quickly, some of subject lines, but the influx of these 14-year-old trolls here has caused hundreds and hundreds of posts just about them, most from them but also a lot of posts from regulars here about them. This is what they want. They're winning because people let them win. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Field Guide to Trolls
"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... most from them but also a lot of posts from regulars here about them. This is what they want. They're winning because people let them win. And your post is different how? jim menning |
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Field Guide to Trolls
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:47:40 GMT, "jim menning"
wrote: And your post is different how? Because as I've said before it's not message posted out of upset or anger. This is what trolls live for, true trolls, disruption based on pathological narcissism. Look at me, look at the destruction I can wring. -- Email: (delete "remove this") Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Field Guide to Trolls
jim menning wrote:
"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... most from them but also a lot of posts from regulars here about them. This is what they want. They're winning because people let them win. And your post is different how? jim menning Do not feed the trolls. JAM |
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