Why? OOPS

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo....8?aucview=0x74

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:09:43 -0400 (EDT),
(Bernhard Rich) wrote:

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo....8?aucview=0x74

The coin is described as having "original toning." Therefore, it can't
have been wiped with a Brillo pad or anything else. g

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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:09:43 -0400 (EDT),
(Bernhard Rich) wrote:


http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo....8?aucview=0x74


The coin is described as having "original toning." Therefore, it can't
have been wiped with a Brillo pad or anything else. g



Original has many definitions. Not necessarily first or only.

I did a repaint of my car in original factory color.


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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:38:10 GMT, George D
wrote:

Original has many definitions. Not necessarily first or only.

I did a repaint of my car in original factory color.

But "original toning" has only one definition.

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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:38:10 GMT, George D
wrote:


Original has many definitions. Not necessarily first or only.

I did a repaint of my car in original factory color.


But "original toning" has only one definition.


And that is?

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felt. He said, I feel as if I have two wolves fighting in my heart. One
wolf is the vengeful, angry, violent one. The other wolf is the loving,
compassionate one. The grandson asked him, Which wolf will win the
fight in your heart? The grandfather answered, The one I feed."


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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:50:18 GMT, George D
wrote:

And that is?

Toning on a coin that hasn't been cleaned. Original. Not retoning.

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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:37:03 -0400, Reid Goldsborough
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:50:18 GMT, George D
wrote:

And that is?

Toning on a coin that hasn't been cleaned. Original. Not retoning.

Hmm, so if I take my 2003 SAE and throw it in the oven for a few seconds
the toning is original?

Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:37:03 -0400, Reid Goldsborough
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:50:18 GMT, George D
wrote:

And that is?

Toning on a coin that hasn't been cleaned. Original. Not retoning.

Hmm, so if I take my 2003 SAE and throw it in the oven for a few seconds
the toning is original?

I'd call that artifically induced. But in light of the unarticulated
definition you responded to, it must be Original Toning. ;-/

Alan
'paradigm shift: third to fourth and found 20¢ in the boot'

Alan & Erin Williams wrote:

Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:37:03 -0400, Reid Goldsborough
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:50:18 GMT, George D
wrote:

And that is?

Toning on a coin that hasn't been cleaned. Original. Not retoning.

Hmm, so if I take my 2003 SAE and throw it in the oven for a few seconds
the toning is original?

I'd call that artifically induced. But in light of the unarticulated
definition you responded to, it must be Original Toning. ;-/

Alan
'paradigm shift: third to fourth and found 20¢ in the boot'

Is that anything like original sin?
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:13:06 -0500, Jorg Lueke
wrote:

Hmm, so if I take my 2003 SAE and throw it in the oven for a few seconds
the toning is original?

Yes. But it's not natural. Look, this isn't difficult. If a seller
describes an old coin as having "original toning," buyers and would-be
buyers regard this as meaning that the coin hasn't been cleaned and
that the toning on it has resulted from the natural process of the
metal on the coin's reacting to its environment without a deliberate
attempt on the part of humans to induce these chemical changes. When a
coin has been cleaned, among the things removed from its surfaces are
original toning. The seller in the case of the coin discussed in the
opening post of this thread made the ridiculous assertion in his
auction description that this harshly cleaned coin had original
toning.

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