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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza. That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. That's the one. I remember it now. Another Chevy I'd prefer stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the annual
local
car show.


They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg


Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. Or it was. I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings in a
junkyard today. There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza. That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty 140.

I can't remember which one, and it may have been urban legend, but back in
the 1960s reputedly on one of the pricier foreign sports cars, to replace
the spark plugs the Chilton drill was

1. Remove engine.

- mazorj, Shadetree Mechanic
"Stupid car designers! What were all these left-over parts doing in my
engine?"

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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and remove
a front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no
less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza. That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty 140.

I can't remember which one, and it may have been urban legend, but back in
the 1960s reputedly on one of the pricier foreign sports cars, to replace
the spark plugs the Chilton drill was

1. Remove engine.

Maybe that was the one where the engine was periodically replaced but the
spark plugs could be reused.

On Mar 17, 1:53*am, MKW wrote:
I guess the pics didn't work. *Each is a link to the whole album..but
the order is still there. *Check em out.

Actually, if you strip out the useless bits (e.g., [IMG] and the
spaces and punctuation) and copy and paste the links into your
browser, it can work.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:31:36 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza. That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. That's the one. I remember it now. Another Chevy I'd prefer stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the annual
local
car show.


They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg


Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. Or it was. I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings in a
junkyard today. There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

I found this one in a junkyard:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...8_MQuUM-XL.jpg
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:31:36 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
wrote:


"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza.
That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel
Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not
a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record
for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked
out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. That's the one. I remember it now. Another Chevy I'd prefer
stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the annual
local
car show.


They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg


Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. Or it was. I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings in
a
junkyard today. There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

I found this one in a junkyard:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...8_MQuUM-XL.jpg

The Corvair seldom got the public apathy that the Vega did until that
certain advocate chose to make the Corvair his windmill. I always thought
they were sorta bold, innovative, and interesting, even sporty, a feeling I
never had toward the Vega and its brothers.

In article , "Bruce Remick" wrote:

"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:31:36 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
wrote:


"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza.
That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel
Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not
a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record
for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked
out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. That's the one. I remember it now. Another Chevy I'd prefer
stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the annual
local
car show.


They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg


Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. Or it was. I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings in
a
junkyard today. There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

I found this one in a junkyard:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...8_MQuUM-XL.jpg

The Corvair seldom got the public apathy that the Vega did until that
certain advocate chose to make the Corvair his windmill. I always thought
they were sorta bold, innovative, and interesting, even sporty, a feeling I
never had toward the Vega and its brothers.






only real problem was the poorly designed carb linkage that couldn't keep the
carbs synched. i finally spot welded to two bars to the adjusters. lost the
adjustment but they never got out of it.

On Mar 17, 6:42*pm, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:31:36 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
wrote:

"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza.
That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel
Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was not
a
good time for gearheads. *I think the Monza still holds the record
for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. *The 4.3L V8 eeked
out
110. *The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. *That's the one. I remember it now. *Another Chevy I'd prefer
stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the annual
local
car show.

They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg

Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. *Or it was. *I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings in
a
junkyard today. *There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

I found this one in a junkyard:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...3640758_MQuUM-...

The Corvair seldom got the public apathy that the Vega did until that
certain advocate chose to make the Corvair his windmill. *I always thought
they were sorta bold, innovative, and interesting, even sporty, a feeling I
never had toward the Vega and its brothers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A car collector I worked with about 10 years ago offered to take us
for a ride in his restored '63 Corvair. Scary ride...
notice the rear end motion in this contemporaneous TV commercial
starting at about 40 secounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOpRe-M_rSE

"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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The Corvair seldom got the public apathy that the Vega did until that certain
advocate chose to make the Corvair his windmill. I always thought they were
sorta bold, innovative, and interesting, even sporty, a feeling I never had
toward the Vega and its brothers.

By the time Nadar got around to tilting at the Corvair, the problem had already
been fixed by adding another universal joint to each rear axle.
Later model Corvairs were attractively styled and good daily drivers.

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On Mar 17, 6:42 pm, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:31:36 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:49:07 -0400, "Scurvy Dog"
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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IIRC, wasn't that the one where you had to jack the thing up and
remove a
front wheel just to get at one of the plugs-- back in those
ancient
times
when people actually changed spark plugs, and by themselves no
less?

I believe you are thinking of the V8 versions of the Chevy Monza.
That
car
was based on the Vega and was originally designed for a Wankel
Rotary.

Between the gas crisis and anti-smog controls, the mid-1970's was
not
a
good time for gearheads. I think the Monza still holds the record
for
getting the least horsepower out of those V8's. The 4.3L V8 eeked
out
110. The 5.7L managed 125, and the later 5.0L pumped out a mighty
140.

Ahhh. That's the one. I remember it now. Another Chevy I'd prefer
stay
off
my driveway.

Pontiac had their own version of the Vega, the Astre, which was a
better
car
with more options and a better engine.
I haven't seen a Vega on the street for a good many years now but one
of
the
locals has a Cosworth Vega that he brings out for parades and the
annual
local
car show.

They all end up like this:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/photos...6_cyRRu-XL.jpg

Now that's some better stuff in that parking area. Or it was. I'd bet
you'd be hard pressed to find a Vega or any of its GM platform siblings
in
a
junkyard today. There was no reason to save them from the crusher.

I found this one in a junkyard:
http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...3640758_MQuUM-...

The Corvair seldom got the public apathy that the Vega did until that
certain advocate chose to make the Corvair his windmill. I always thought
they were sorta bold, innovative, and interesting, even sporty, a feeling
I
never had toward the Vega and its brothers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A car collector I worked with about 10 years ago offered to take us
for a ride in his restored '63 Corvair. Scary ride...
notice the rear end motion in this contemporaneous TV commercial
starting at about 40 secounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOpRe-M_rSE
============

You're surprised at rear end motion on beach sand? I might have expected to
see some fishtailing, but I didn't see any in that clip either. Most likely
the Chevy brass selected the best take anyway. A scary ride? Try a 425hp
1963 Impala at speed along that same sand route.