A Politically Incorrect Postage Stamp

On Oct 7, 11:59*am, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
RWF found these unused words:

On Oct 6, 2:52*pm, Terry Reedy wrote:

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. *Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Banning cigarettes is not the answer, it would only lead to illegal
activity (remember prohibition).
Education, a total ban on advertising, forcing manufacturers to
package their cancer sticks in plain white boxes, higher (say $20 a
pack) taxes, publically funded smoking cessation programs, cracking
down on illegal off-shore and Indian smoke sales are all required to
end the plague of smoking in the US of A.

So you would have the US crack down on [say] French sales of tobacco as
well?

I don't care if the French all get cancer and die.
But if they want to sell ciggies here, they've got to pay the tax!

On Oct 6, 1:56*pm, Dominique Stéphan
wrote:
javawizard a écrit:

At one time, the country of Albania honored a smoker who used twelve
packs a day, by putting his picture on a postage stamp. - fromwww.odd-info.com

Hello,

It looks like it was abour king Zoghttp://www.skeptics.com.au/quiz/2008/0803.htm

I don't know if there is a stamp about it though.

--
Cordialement
Dominique Stéphanhttp://www.blog-philatelie.com/Mon blog philatéliehttp://www.timbre-poste.com/Timbres-poste d'usage couranthttp://amisdemarianne.free.fr/Cercle des Amis de Marianne

Thank You.

Here he is with Queen Geraldine.
http://www.stampcenter.com/images/alb289.jpg

Here is a younger Zog.
http://j-mydland.net/Albania%201929%20forside.jpg
http://j-mydland.net/Albania%201930%20brevforside.jpg

Blair

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 05:40:00 -0700 (PDT), RWF
wrote:

On Oct 6, 2:52*pm, Terry Reedy wrote:

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. *Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Banning cigarettes is not the answer, it would only lead to illegal
activity (remember prohibition).
Education, a total ban on advertising, forcing manufacturers to
package their cancer sticks in plain white boxes, higher (say $20 a
pack) taxes, publically funded smoking cessation programs, cracking
down on illegal off-shore and Indian smoke sales are all required to
end the plague of smoking in the US of A.

If we were to stop Native American tobacco trade we may have another
Wounded Knee on our hands. This time, however, the Native Americans
may be much more heavily armed.

Prohibition didn't work. I don't believe it was very well thought
out. This may be the issue with marijuana and a secondary social
"drug", next to alcohol. Cigarettes are also containing a stimulant,
but that is traditionally and socially acceptable on some levels,
otherwise there wouldn't be any on the market. The revenue from
tobacco is huge.

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:02:00 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

Terry Reedy found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

It is now, as most US areas have laws against smoking, they're 'politically'
motivated, so ... G!

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Terry

The motivation is definitely political - the anti-smoking groups finally got
enough POLITICAL clout to force the actions!

There is nearly nothing that happens without a political overtone, in the US
anyway!

Darn lobbyists, doggone it!

On Oct 7, 5:34*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:02:00 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien





wrote:
Terry Reedy found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

It is now, as most US areas have laws against smoking, they're 'politically'
motivated, so ... G!

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. *Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Terry

The motivation is definitely political - the anti-smoking groups finally got
enough POLITICAL clout to force the actions!

There is nearly nothing that happens without a political overtone, in the US
anyway!

Darn lobbyists, doggone it!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just in case some people have forgotten, laws are generally passed
because people need to be protected from themselves.

RtOo

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:07:41 -0700 (PDT), Ralphael1
wrote:

On Oct 7, 5:34*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:02:00 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien





wrote:
Terry Reedy found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

It is now, as most US areas have laws against smoking, they're 'politically'
motivated, so ... G!

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. *Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Terry

The motivation is definitely political - the anti-smoking groups finally got
enough POLITICAL clout to force the actions!

There is nearly nothing that happens without a political overtone, in the US
anyway!

Darn lobbyists, doggone it!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just in case some people have forgotten, laws are generally passed
because people need to be protected from themselves.

Yes, Ralph. We're all sheeple. :^)

On Oct 7, 5:33*pm, wrote:

If we were to stop Native American tobacco trade we may have another
Wounded Knee on our hands. *This time, however, the Native Americans
may be much more heavily armed.

White man must stop red brother from selling untaxed cigarettes.
If red brother not agree, white father in Washington will send many
soldiers with firesticks.

On Oct 7, 9:38*pm, RWF wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:33*pm, wrote:

If we were to stop Native American tobacco trade we may have another
Wounded Knee on our hands. *This time, however, the Native Americans
may be much more heavily armed.

White man must stop red brother from selling untaxed cigarettes.
If red brother not agree, white father in Washington will send many
soldiers with firesticks.

Not a chance of the " many soldiers with firesticks." .. " white
father in Washington " is still giving " red brother " whatever the
hell he wants to repay for taking the " red brother's " land many
years back" red brother " pays no taxes and when he gets new land
returned it becomes a Indian Reservation again and the " red man "
builds a tobacco selling outlet that sells cigarettes made by the "
white man."" red man " also builds a casino next to the smoke shop.
I do not speak with forked toungue, we got one here, and they own all
the Hard Rock in the world.

Ralphael, the OLD one

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:10:50 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

Ralphael1 found these unused words:

On Oct 7, 5:34*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:02:00 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien





wrote:
Terry Reedy found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:

It is now, as most US areas have laws against smoking, they're 'politically'
motivated, so ... G!

As someone who is suffering the effects of long-ago second-hand smoke
and will for the rest of my life, calling the motivation 'political' is
not so funny to me. *Tobacco and tobacco smoke are full of poisons and
it is 'political' (votes and revenue) that they are not banned.

Terry

The motivation is definitely political - the anti-smoking groups finally got
enough POLITICAL clout to force the actions!

There is nearly nothing that happens without a political overtone, in the US
anyway!

Darn lobbyists, doggone it!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just in case some people have forgotten, laws are generally passed
because people need to be protected from themselves.

RtOo

Those 'laws' are passed because SOME people think THEY know what's BEST for
the rest ...

I don't need to be 'protected' from myself. I'm an adult and should have the
FREEEDOM to make my own decisions, IF I'm also willing to live with the
consequences of such decisions.

Therein lies the POLTICAL nature of these laws, too many, after they get in
a jam, cry HELP! and expect the rest to come running and fix everything with
a pat and a kiss on the forehead.

The more laws, the less freedom !!!

Yes... and when was the last time George Bush paid you a visit? I
have yet to have politicians knocking, although I have received
political snail mail responses to petitions sent.

They know what's happening in Main Street USA alright. Just not our
respective Main Streets.

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:14:03 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
wrote:

Ralphael1 found these unused words:

On Oct 7, 9:38*pm, RWF wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:33*pm, wrote:

If we were to stop Native American tobacco trade we may have another
Wounded Knee on our hands. *This time, however, the Native Americans
may be much more heavily armed.

White man must stop red brother from selling untaxed cigarettes.
If red brother not agree, white father in Washington will send many
soldiers with firesticks.

Not a chance of the " many soldiers with firesticks." .. " white
father in Washington " is still giving " red brother " whatever the
hell he wants to repay for taking the " red brother's " land many
years back" red brother " pays no taxes and when he gets new land
returned it becomes a Indian Reservation again and the " red man "
builds a tobacco selling outlet that sells cigarettes made by the "
white man."" red man " also builds a casino next to the smoke shop.
I do not speak with forked toungue, we got one here, and they own all
the Hard Rock in the world.

Ralphael, the OLD one

Not only that, but 'white father' has found out that he's created a monster
- soverign nation status!

He does not have any control except how fast he wimples and givee even more
to their demands!

Hehehehehe... once again, it came around to bite the arse of the
offender.