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Old November 13th 06, 09:20 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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In article ,
zzpat wrote:

Whether
you like it or not, Christmas has been a secular holiday for a very long
time. Christians made it that way - no one else could have.


Yup, christianity's in the public domain now. For centuries they imposed
it on us, and now it's ours.

I like the Japanese store that had a Santa on a crucifix for its
Christmas display.

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Old November 13th 06, 09:20 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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December 25th. was stolen by the Christians as their gods birthday. The fact
is there is NO
evidence as to what day or year your Jesus was born. In fact their is no
objective verifiable
evidence that there is ANY real Jesus the god!

So quit trying to force your myths and fables on everyone else.

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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."

Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.

"Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ and it makes sense
that the Royal Mail does likewise."

Mr Burrowes, who represents Enfield Southgate and is a founder member
of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, added: "It is strange how a
country with a Christian heritage does not celebrate Christmas in a
straightforward way.

"My constituency has a high proportion of Hindus and they are always
asking me why, in a Christian country, we don't celebrate Christmas."


Stephen Crabb, the Tory MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire and another
Fellowship member, said: "Removing faith from Christmas is to neuter it
as a festival.

"It simply becomes a festival of materialism and that is not what it
was meant to be about. I am dismayed and disappointed by the decision
of the Royal Mail."

Dr Christina Baxter, who sits on the Archbishops' Council of the C of
E's General Synod, said: "I am deeply disappointed and I think a
large majority of people in this country will also regret the Royal
Mail's decision."

Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice pressure group
added: "They probably did it to avoid causing offence to some - but I
for one am deeply offended by this."

Last year's religious designs also sparked fury among Hindus, who
objected to an image of a woman with traditional Hindu markings
pictured worshipping Christ as a baby.

Ramesh Kallidai, head of the Hindu Forum of Britain, urged his members
and other Hindus to send unstamped protest letters to the Royal
Mail's headquarters.

This year's collection, which goes on sale today, is the Royal
Mail's 40th set of Christmas stamps and the first festive set to
include first and second-class stamps in two sizes.

Other traditions to be axed in Britain under political correctness
include Christmas lights - banned by some health and safety officials
worried about people injuring themselves while putting them up.

The stamp controversy is a result of the Royal Mail's policy of
alternating between religious and non-religious designs each Christmas.
A spokesman said yesterday the festive stamp collections had always
alternated.

"It is about celebrating all elements of Christmas," he said. "It is
something that we have always done. I think people will see this
year's issue of stamps as a first class set of Christmas stamps."



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Santa's days are numbered too.
http://cjoint.com/data/lnx4530xdE.htm




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Old November 13th 06, 11:19 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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On 13 Nov 2006 10:06:26 -0800, "Lucifer"
wrote:

Well tbh, we should be having Saturnalia stamps anyway, if you want to
pull the "I was here first" whinge.


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Sound of Trumpet wrote:

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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.


I don't remember any Mithraic stamps!

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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


Good! Now if they'd just release the Tammuz set...

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Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
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Old November 14th 06, 03:18 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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On 14 Nov 2006 12:00:57 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2006-11-14, Badger Shame wrote:
Huge lid wrote in
:
On 2006-11-13, JAF wrote:
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:14:13 -0600, zzpat wrote:

we all buy into it.

'we'?

I dare one of these Christian nay-sayers to skip buying
presents for their children.

Is there a prize?

Given that Xtians pinched the festival from their pagan forbears, I
find it amusing to see them defending it.


I suspect it's not so much that they are Christian nutjobs, and more a
case of them being dumb and lazy losers determined to find reasons why
it's somebody else's fault that their lives are complete crap.


*APPLAUSE*

Lets face it. When you feel it's worth your while to get upset about
what's being put on postage stamps then it's time to look seriously at
lifestyle changes.


Including getting one (a life, that is.)


Cross-post on.

That includes those who sit in lofty towers in other newsgroups.
Armchair quarterbacks who are 10 posts removed from the original
context. You have to wonder about all of these voyeuristic actions.

Cross-post off.
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:56:56 GMT, JAF
wrote:

On 14 Nov 2006 12:00:57 GMT, Huge wrote:

I suspect it's not so much that they are Christian nutjobs, and more a
case of them being dumb and lazy losers determined to find reasons why
it's somebody else's fault that their lives are complete crap.


*APPLAUSE*

Doubled.

Lets face it. When you feel it's worth your while to get upset about
what's being put on postage stamps then it's time to look seriously at
lifestyle changes.


Including getting one (a life, that is.)


Or ending it.


Cross-post on.

That would help plenty of us out over here. Less network babble. Not
that I condone it, mind you, but if you insist, please carry on. One
of your friends will tell us how you fared, no doubt.

Cross-post off.
 




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