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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Thanks in advance Pete |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
"Peter Smith" wrote in message ... Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Thanks in advance Pete Hello The Indian Head (Buffalo) nickel was minted from 1913 thourgh 1938. Are you seeing this "USN" on the back side of the coin on the upper right? I am thinking your seeing the letters from the motto "E PLURIBUS UMUN" that may be worn real badly and only those letters are showing up. You will find the year on the front face near the bottom. |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:20:07 -0700, "Arizona Coin Collector"
wrote: "Peter Smith" wrote in message .. . Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Thanks in advance Pete Hello The Indian Head (Buffalo) nickel was minted from 1913 thourgh 1938. Are you seeing this "USN" on the back side of the coin on the upper right? I am thinking your seeing the letters from the motto "E PLURIBUS UMUN" that may be worn real badly and only those letters are showing up. You will find the year on the front face near the bottom. Hi When I said dateless, I meant that the date had been worn off The USN goes straight across the buffalo, not round the edge. Here is an example of the Countermark upon a morgan dollar, it is the exact type of script as well http://fao-coins.info/ctstp/images/USN.JPG |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
"Peter Smith" wrote in message ... Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Thanks in advance Pete Perhaps idle hands by a seaman with that punch which was normally used for something else? Steve |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
Peter Smith wrote:
Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark It's not listed in Brunk (either first or second edition), so that won't help even if you do find it ... I've sold a few of these over the years, and always assumed that they were simply created by a bored machinist at sea ... Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Probably not ... nothing of this nature is listed in Cunningham. |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:55:26 -0800 (PST), Ken Barr
wrote: Peter Smith wrote: Hi to the group I have recently acquired a dateless Buffalo nickel with the afformentioned U.S.N countermark. After some research I came to the conclussion it stood for United States Navy. In an old copy of Rulau, I saw a 1886 Morgan Dollar with the exact same Countermark. Unfortunately, that is all it gives, and I can't find my copy of Brunk. So does anyone know the origins of this Countermark It's not listed in Brunk (either first or second edition), so that won't help even if you do find it ... I've sold a few of these over the years, and always assumed that they were simply created by a bored machinist at sea ... Thanks for looking for me, you are probably right about the bored machinists, though there might be something more to it, we just never know Where they a type of canteen token for US naval personel? Probably not ... nothing of this nature is listed in Cunningham. That is a new one on me, what is the "Cunningham" book? |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
On Feb 7, 4:20*am, Peter Smith wrote:
That is a new one on me, what is the "Cunningham" book?- Hide quoted text - Cunningham, Paul A. Military Tokens of the United States - Vol.I (Domestic Issues). Tecumseh, MI. 1995. 440pp., illus. $50.00 Cunningham, Paul A. Same title as above. Vol.II (Overseas Issues). Tecumseh, 1998. 461pp., illus. $49.95 Paul Cunningham is a longtime Michigan tokens dealer, perhaps best known for his catalog, MICHIGAN TRADE TOKENS. It is a shame that such efforts are not more widely distributed across the hobby. Michigan is blessed as the home of the ANA. Even as the hobby suffers from the demise of the local coin store and the local coin club, we are doing fine here. Michigan exports numismatic collectibles into the hobby and Michigan dealers are known as strong buyers at conventions. If you live in Metro Detroit, there is a show every weekend. You can make two coin club meetings a week. Well, actually, you would have to make choices because you'd have scheduling conflicts. There are that many from Southgate to Pontiac, from Westland to Flint. The freeways make every place near or far the same drive. Mike M. Michael E. Marotta "Not to mention Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, Bob Seeger ... ... and Motown." |
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U.S.N Countermark on Buffalo Nickel
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:26:14 +0000, Peter Smith
wrote: When I said dateless, I meant that the date had been worn off The USN goes straight across the buffalo, not round the edge. Here is an example of the Countermark upon a morgan dollar, it is the exact type of script as well http://fao-coins.info/ctstp/images/USN.JPG If you look closely at this image, it is pretty obvious that the "USN" was stamped in AFTER it was worn to the point it is now, with no circulation after that time. I vote for someone trying to make a collectible out of something that was only of scrap value before stamping. |
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