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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
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ditto Democrats
Subject: Ditto Democrats
Good opinion that basically sums up the strategy of the Democratic party which is to regain the White House by focusing their campaign attacks against George W and his policies and failures but not providing any realistic solutions to the problems facing the world and our country today, i.e, terrorism, illegal immigration, health care, and the future of the social security system. Their strategy is to be united in their opinions and no infighting. Ditto Democrats By E. J. Dionne Jr. Here is why the contest for the Democratic presidential nomination seems so peculiar: Political campaigns are normally about highlighting differences, but never have the philosophical distinctions among Democratic candidates been so small. There's a reason for this. "Sometimes," Barack Obama said in an interview this week, "being in the wilderness focuses attention." The campaign's daily back-and-forth has obscured the remarkable overlap among Democrats in their plans, proposals, themes and even rhetoric, particularly on domestic policy. The old splits that tore the party apart -- "reformer" vs. "regular," "New Democrats" vs. the "Old" kind, "pro-business" vs. "pro-labor" -- are nowhere to be seen. Because the contest has been organized around personality and history rather than ideological passion, the presidential preferences of Democratic primary voters have been remarkably stable. But they also may prove to be fragile. Thus has Hillary Clinton maintained her steady and substantial lead in the national polls, but her advantage could be vulnerable to relatively small changes in the political environment. There is no issue on which the convergence is more obvious or important than health care. As Obama says candidly, "The differences between my plan, Hillary's plan and Edwards's plan are relatively modest." This is a big change. When President Bill Clinton proposed health-care reform in the early 1990s, Democrats were badly split and deeply mistrusted each other's approaches. Fights among Democrats were nearly as responsible for the Clinton plan's failure as opposition from Republicans. Now, former advocates of Canadian-style single-payer plans, supporters of employer mandates and pro-market reformers have come together around proposals for universal coverage that are resolutely prudent and incremental in the way they get there. The same is true on taxes, Obama's focus this week. Democrats are no longer spooked by the prospect of raising taxes because the increased concentration of income and wealth at the top of the class structure -- and the sharp tax cuts on capital enacted under President Bush -- would allow the government to collect a great deal of money by increasing taxes on a very narrow slice of the electorate. Obama's plan, issued Tuesday, was a model for how any Democrat will approach the tax issue next year. He led not with his list of tax increases but with $80 billion to $85 billion in tax cuts for middle- and lower-income workers, homeowners who do not itemize their deductions, and senior citizens with annual incomes of less than $50,000. He also proposed simplifying filing for non-itemizing taxpayers. Obama would pay for this by raising taxes on dividends and capital gains -- but only for those in the top tax bracket -- and by closing loopholes in the tax code that benefit very particular (and mostly corporate) interests. His speech outlining his plan was itself evidence of the year's rhetorical cross-pollination: Not once but twice did Obama borrow a signature John Edwards reference point by arguing that "we've lost the balance between work and wealth." In the interview after his speech, Obama freely acknowledged that his ideas build on a consensus. "Democrats were so scared of the tax issue that they got steamrolled on some very bad policy," he said. "My hope is that Democrats have regained their voice and lay out a case not for confiscatory taxes that get in the way of economic growth but for policies that are sensible and fair." Note that caveat about "confiscatory taxes." The new Democratic populism is carefully tempered. "We don't resent people who are doing well," Obama insisted. Notice also how carefully Obama weaves the old and the new -- and here again, his approach is more typical than atypical inside his party. "Over the last seven or eight years," he says, "Democrats have recognized that the economy is out of balance and it is not sufficient for us just to defend the old New Deal programs. We have to take those principles and adapt them to new times." In talking about how the party's new consensus would not have been possible had Democrats not "fully wrung out the excesses of the '60s," Obama pays unprompted tribute to a leader who happens to be supporting one of his opponents. "Bill Clinton," says Obama, "deserves some credit for breaking with some of those dogmas in the Democratic Party." I'm ashamed to say that, yes, Slick Willie is a product of the '60s. BC Obama's promise to transcend the Clinton-Bush years while subtly presenting himself as Bill Clinton's true heir has been one of the central dramas of his candidacy since its inception. This underscores that the Democrats' 2008 struggle is not about how to shape a new consensus but over who can take charge of the one that already exists. |
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ditto Democrats
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:44:33 -0400, "trippin-2-8-trak"
wrote: Subject: Ditto Democrats snip Copyright violation of Washington Post copyrighted material reported to the Post. Violator: Charles M. Nudo, Jr., 160 Bear Run Dr., Drums, PA 18222. |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Sep 29, 3:00 pm, "sandman" wrote:
"DeserTBoB" wrote in message ... LA Times this morning had a byline about Clarence Thomas' new so-called "autobiography," the gist of which is that the man is paranoid beyond doubt. Paranoid of Democrats, paranoid of lighter skinned negroes, paranoid of...well, just about everything! How did this sorry excuse for a jurist make it onto the Supreme Court bench, if not for "identity politics" played by the GOP? Thomas' career is marked mostly by "me too" decisions, simply trailering his other long-time right wing fanatic on the bench, Antonin Scalia. Thomas almost never even attempts to engage litigants in arguments during oral presentation at the court, and when he does, the question always involves "racism," or is off-point and irrelevant entirely. Clarence Thomas...another GOOD reason for a Democratic president in '08! Speaking as a former Dem, can you tell me what the Dems have done to warrant anyone's vote, except roll over on their back for a tummy rub from the NWO? Here is a hint: they've done nothing. Did nothing about getting a real 911 investigation. All else is secondary. I'm going to have to teach you some history sometime, since you obviously are clueless as well as useless. Who gave us NAFTA, the removal of restrictions on media ownership? The Clintons, fercristsake. NAFTA was just a moron by-byproduct of The Louisiana Purchase for all you morons in Calitucky, but nobody expected you to know that, since moron Washington D.C. itself is just a by-product of The Boston Purchase. |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Sep 29, 7:47 pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:30:46 GMT, "****ingOnTheRight" kidGWBoo wrote: Looks like you know little about history. NAFTA was Oldbush's horse****, passed by the republican Congress and signed (by law) by Clinton. snip All true, but Clinton pushed people like Lee Iacocca to support passage of NAFTA far more than he should have done. That's makes no difference at all, since it's cranks like Lee Iacocca that pushed people far, far, far more than they should have to invent electronics robots, CD, DVD, microprocessors, fiber optics, and Japanese Imports. NAFTA will go down in his presidency's history as one of his biggest blunders. "Monicagate" and the assorted other worthless crap that gets the right wingers foaming at the mouth won't even be worth a footnote given the fullness of time. Come to think of it, the "christian nation" morons we are currently defeating won't be much of a speed bump in American history either, at the rate they're collapsing. MY "EARLY, EARLY PREDICTION©" FOR '08: It's going to be Hillary versus Rudy. It's possible a right wing "splinter" candidate will rise up out of the Religious Right, further fracturing the GOP. Hillary will barbeque Rudy to a crisp on the stump and will win 289 electors (or more) without Rootie-Tootie even carrying his own home state of New York, where Clinton won her reelection to the Senate by a 67% majority. Bernie Kerik will be a major embarrassment to Rootie late in the game, moreso than he has been already. The Dems will pick up 20 seats in the House, 5 or 6 in the Senate. After losing, Rudy will hit the right wing talk show circuit, where he will earn a reputation as a bitter has-been/never-was. Due to persistent vetting in '08 by the Clinton war room, Rootie-Tootie's personal history will drive him into political Siberia. Anyone who knows me knows I tend to be uncannily accurate about these things. |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
there's nothing wrong with new technology, you can't buff the negative
"Japanese imports" in with technological advances otherwise, we'd still be riding the horse, using water power, and outhouses, and candles for light |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Oct 1, 5:39 pm, "trippin-2-8-trak" wrote:
there's nothing wrong with new technology, you can't buff the negative "Japanese imports" in with technological advances otherwise, we'd still be riding the horse, using water power, and outhouses, and candles for light Sounds like your lifestyle in Beech Mountain Lakes. You may want to add "no DSL" to that list too. |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Oct 1, 5:39 pm, "trippin-2-8-trak" wrote:
there's nothing wrong with new technology, you can't buff the negative "Japanese imports" in with technological advances Sure you can, since Detroit hasn't had any technological advances since the morons discovered Los Vegas like 100 years ago. otherwise, we'd still be riding the horse, using water power, and outhouses, and candles for light |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:03:54 -0700, "
wrote: On Oct 1, 5:39 pm, "trippin-2-8-trak" wrote: there's nothing wrong with new technology, you can't buff the negative "Japanese imports" in with technological advances Sure you can, since Detroit hasn't had any technological advances since the morons discovered Los Vegas like 100 years ago. snip That's LAS Vegas, and there was nothing at all there until the Los Angeles & Salt Lake RR (part of UP) built the town in 1904. So, there was a roundhouse, water and fuel oil tanks, crew shanties and a yard along with a couple of fleabag hotels, and not much else. Later on, a guy named Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel showed up one day from Los Angeles in a '41 Cadillac convertible accompanied by George Raft and Veronica Lake...and he had this wacky idea right there on the side of US 91 a few miles south of town.... Francis Copolla thought so much of Bugsy's idea he had Lee Strassberg do a famous soliloquy about it that helped he and Strassberg win Oscar nominations. Name the movie. |
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Clarence Thomas book: Paranoid of everyone?
On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:39:12 -0400, "trippin-2-8-trak"
wrote: there's nothing wrong with new technology, you can't buff the negative "Japanese imports" in with technological advances otherwise, we'd still be riding the horse, using water power, and outhouses, and candles for light snip! Oh look...Charlie's found a new Usenet buddy! They appear to be perfectly matched...mental health-wise, at least. |
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