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ANA/Cipoletti lawsuit against former ANA employees
I read the CW article. The former employees set up a couple of
websites to take potshots at Cipoletti. The ANA alleges a bunch of other illegal activity along with this. I have a feeling that this is all just a waste of time and money and the ANA could make better use of its resourses. |
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It is my personal experience that Larry Lee and Brian Fanton are good
guys. IMHO, Chris Cipoletti should never have been hired in the first place. The ANA board has a fixation on getting legal advice cheaply by hiring a lawyer (twice now) for a job that should go to a completely different type of person with a completely different set of skills. oly |
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I got Numismatic News yesterday and
they go into much more detail on the case than Coin World. It looks like this has the potential to get very ugly if it ever gets into a court room. |
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On 23 Aug 2005 02:30:53 -0700, "stonej" is
alleged to have written: I got Numismatic News yesterday and they go into much more detail on the case than Coin World. It looks like this has the potential to get very ugly if it ever gets into a court room. Somebody posted earlier that the ANA always picks a lawyer for the exec and it's not been a very good fit. If there was ever a group that needed a lawyer on staff, it's the ANA. But at least some of his time is spent dealing with ACG. That's time well spent. Bruce ************************************************* ANA R162074 EAC 3606 To email me, remember that RoadRunner and Coyote do not mix. ************************************************* |
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oly wrote: It is my personal experience that Larry Lee and Brian Fanton are good guys. I don't know Brian Fanton, other than recognizing the name. OTOH I have known Larry to be very forthright and honest. As you say, one of the good guys. |
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A reason to read NN this week. Personally I don't like Cipoletti after
he rudely avoided me in Portland. |
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"Bruce H (BoxTurtle)" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2005 02:30:53 -0700, "stonej" is alleged to have written: I got Numismatic News yesterday and they go into much more detail on the case than Coin World. It looks like this has the potential to get very ugly if it ever gets into a court room. Somebody posted earlier that the ANA always picks a lawyer for the exec and it's not been a very good fit. If there was ever a group that needed a lawyer on staff, it's the ANA. But at least some of his time is spent dealing with ACG. That's time well spent. Bruce ************************************************* ANA R162074 EAC 3606 To email me, remember that RoadRunner and Coyote do not mix. ************************************************* |
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I don't get NN. Can someone summarize the story?
"Bruce H (BoxTurtle)" wrote in message ... On 23 Aug 2005 02:30:53 -0700, "stonej" is alleged to have written: I got Numismatic News yesterday and they go into much more detail on the case than Coin World. It looks like this has the potential to get very ugly if it ever gets into a court room. Somebody posted earlier that the ANA always picks a lawyer for the exec and it's not been a very good fit. If there was ever a group that needed a lawyer on staff, it's the ANA. But at least some of his time is spent dealing with ACG. That's time well spent. Bruce ************************************************* ANA R162074 EAC 3606 To email me, remember that RoadRunner and Coyote do not mix. ************************************************* |
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I don't get NN. Can someone summarize the story?
The NN story was written by Dave Ganz so it has a lawyers perspective and attention to detail. This is not everything. Some of this was in the CW article as well. Wayne Abraham (former ANA controller) emails Cipoletti multiple times demanding a meeting with him and threatening Cipoletti with legal action over his termination five years earlier. Abraham says he has "hidden" documents" at the ANA and has control of documents in violation of his settlement agreement with the ANA Threatens to get "legal authorities" including govt. agencies involved. Larry Lee (ANA curator) unhappy with staffing decisions is disruptive at the ANA and disclosed terms by which people left the ANA. Also accused Cipoletti of stealing money from the ANA to finance his house. Took an ANA employee to lunch where he made his accusations and asked the employee to get certain financial records from the ANA. Employee refuses and tells Cipoletti about the incident. Lee, Nebel and Nulty seen having lunch together which was interpreted as a conspiracy against the ANA and Cipoletti. Two websites go up in May of 2004 with accusations against the Cipoletti and the ANA. The ANA says there are many false statements on them. Accusations on the website included:\ ANA endowment funds are being grossly misappropriated Executive director takes on virtually every title and responsiblity for himself and moonlights as general counsel for the ANA (a conflict of interest) as well as being an attorney. Shroud of secrecy has increased to the level that is is virtually impossible to get a straight answer, and those employess who dare to ask are quickly let go. ANA denies these allegations and first claim is for intentional infliction of emotional distress by outragious conduct . Interfering with prospective business relation and economic gain Breach of contract claim. There is lot more legal stuff but I think those might be the main highlights. |
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The other ridiculous thing noted in the NN article was Cipoletti's ANA
compensation - $218,000. He is still allowed by the ANA board to practice law and and have side business interests while drawing such a salary. IMHO, Total Bull****. At a minimum, the ANA board should require his 100% undivided efforts for that ridiculous sum. Based upon his lack of performance to date, a 90% salary reduction would be in order. oly |
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