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  #21  
Old February 1st 04, 10:39 PM
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"note.boy" wrote in message
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The USA will have a President with an IQ above 9 before European
collectors embrace slabbed coins, we are far to smart to be suckered.
Billy


Better line up for your slabs Euro boy, we have a president with an IQ of 7.

Dave


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Old February 1st 04, 11:39 PM
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"note.boy" wrote in message
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The USA will have a President with an IQ above 9 before European
collectors embrace slabbed coins, we are far to smart to be suckered.


which grading service are we using to measure that IQ? because, you know,
NCGS 9 may be ANACS 11 ...


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Old February 1st 04, 11:57 PM
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oh yes......quick, better slab that slab to preserve the grading
standard......before they go and change it YET AGAIN. (Now that would
never happen would it?) :^)

Ian



LOL!!! That was hilarious!


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Old February 2nd 04, 12:09 AM
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Yes I do as a matter of fact, why trust someone else? If you can't
authenticate it, you shouldn't collect it. That is how I feel. Little
experience here, back in 1993 when I was in Hamburg, Germany I purchased a
Hamburg 20 Marks coin dated 1911. Look in your catalog of World coins, and
you will notice there is no such thing. Who do I blame for it, myself or
the dealer whom sold the counterfeit to me. I blame myself for not knowing
better. Now when I look at it I see the soft details of a cast coin. I
should have known better before parting with the 150 marks for it. Live and
learn. Now I do not buy stuff I have not researched well and cannot
determine if they are authentic or not. Also I looked for tooled coins, not
much of a problem with USA coins, but a real problem when you get into
medieval and early milled coins.


I agree, i once spotted a whole load of fake half sovereigns. They
looked geniune from first glance, weight felt right too. But when i
picked up the first it had a darkish circular marks (like it had been
cleaned in a way), so i put it straight back, the other 7 also had the
exact same darkish marks all in the exact same places. (And i mean
exact, even cleaning in a circular motion which is what it looked
like, couldn't have done that to all 8 in the exact same place!)

They also looked slightly weak in strike, so they got left behind.

My motto if you can't tell the difference between a fake and a real
coin then you either need to learn from the mistake, or you're in the
wrong hobby.

Ah another person into early milled coinage!!! (I quite like medieval
too!)

Sylvester.
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Old February 2nd 04, 01:18 AM
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Ian thus spake:


For what it is worth I have a growing collection of `slabs' from the US
that are mis graded, mis attributed (ie downright `wrong') to help
remind me not to get caught up in the apparent swell from Left Pondia.


Left Pondia! I love it!

Looking forward to my visit this April to 'Right Pondia.' London. Any
reputable ancients dealers there? Looking for good quality greek and
Celtic.

--Keith


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Old February 2nd 04, 02:07 AM
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian"
It's at this point I take some delight in casually reminding you that
there have been coin collectors in europe long before the US was even a
twinkle in your Uncle Sam's eye, let alone it having any coins to play

with.

I've been jabbed with that line of reasoning before.

And I take great delight in reminding the Europeans that those of us in the
US
didn't materialize from spaceships.

Good chance that wonderful coin in their collection was sold by my
greatgrandfather who decided that parting with it was well worth the ticket
price out.

not meaning to start another US vs everyone else verbage war

btw. I'd rather have my coins in a 2x2 in a mylar pocket page in a 3ring
binder - than in slabs.

Randy



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Old February 2nd 04, 02:19 AM
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Thats right, our ancestors were kicked out of all the good places in the
"OLD" world.

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"RR" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian"
It's at this point I take some delight in casually reminding you that
there have been coin collectors in europe long before the US was even a
twinkle in your Uncle Sam's eye, let alone it having any coins to play

with.

I've been jabbed with that line of reasoning before.

And I take great delight in reminding the Europeans that those of us in

the
US
didn't materialize from spaceships.

Good chance that wonderful coin in their collection was sold by my
greatgrandfather who decided that parting with it was well worth the

ticket
price out.

not meaning to start another US vs everyone else verbage war

btw. I'd rather have my coins in a 2x2 in a mylar pocket page in a 3ring
binder - than in slabs.

Randy





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Old February 2nd 04, 02:20 AM
Jorg Lueke
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:45:27 +0000, note.boy
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Slabbing serves one purpose only, to make money for the slabbers.


That is too cynical a view for me,

Europeans have managed to collect unslabbed coins for 1,500? years.


Come now, 1500 years ago our ancestors were likely illterate savages,
still waiting for conversion and lucky to live past 30. I doubt they were
actively collecting coins. Even as little as 100 years ago the coin
collecting hobby was a very small community. It was probably not unitl
the 50's and 60's that more average people here started collecting. Once
silver was removed the market see,ed to stagnate eventually leading to
slabs and coin "investments". While that bubble burst the value of slabs
to ordinary collectors is withstanding the test of time. I will be
surprised is some sort of slabbing/authentication dosen't take hold in
Europe in the next 10-20 years.

Americans need them slabbed, sad. Billy

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Old February 2nd 04, 02:21 AM
Jorg Lueke
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:32:15 GMT, Colin Kynoch
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:47:55 +0000, "note.boy"
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Buying from a long established UK dealer has no pitfalls. Billy


Likewise in Australia

Colin Kynoch


Generally not, Stacks still does fine without selling many slabs at all.

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Old February 2nd 04, 02:21 AM
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:51:53 +0000, note.boy
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The USA will have a President with an IQ above 9 before European
collectors embrace slabbed coins, we are far to smart to be suckered.
Billy

Time will tell
 




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