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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 1:58 pm, Reid Goldsborough wrote: On 8/22/2010 3:10 PM, oly wrote: IMHO, the practical experience of working in a Pawn Shop for over twenty years could very well offset the apparent lack of diploma-like credentials from some institution of higher learning. He really worked in a Pawn Shop for all this time? I guess that's some kind of more proper pawn shop, a noun of a different case. From you postings I can also see how you would say that this is the equivalent of a college degree in art history, archeology, or a similar topic, an offset to this. Perhaps he could get a college degree for such salt-of-the-earth real-world experience then use it to teach in a college setting, setting straight those elitist ivory tower snobs and know-it-alls with their vacuous book learnin' and field research. -- Consumer:http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur:http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit:http://rg.ancients.info/bogos Pretty weak there, even by Reed "standards". Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials, but he doesn't wear them on his sleeve (like some people). He is apparently a very successful businessman (unlike some people). BTW, what are your formal academic credentials, there, Gainsburger? oly ****************** I wouldn't be surprised if Rick was pulling in more income than most English Lit majors with Doctorate degrees, even without the TV deal and maybe even a high school education. Looks like he has more fun, too, without six figures remaining on his school loan. The way his restoration experts butcher some of the rusty hulks he buys in the name of "restoration", I'm surprised he doesn't polish all the old coins he takes in. His "restored" vending machines, juke boxes, gasoline pumps, old cars, etc. would make any serious collector of these items gag. |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 5:55 pm, "Bremick" wrote: "Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... On 8/22/2010 2:17 PM, oly wrote: It's frequently contrived I can't watch it for this reason. It's a typical unreal reality show, largely faked reality, scripted and heavily edited so that all realism disappears. In this case, the guy who runs the shop often affects knowledge of esoteric items that you know he couldn't possibly have. To counter this fakery, he does call in experts about other items. Still, the overall quality of the show may be best summarized by a statement of one of the pawn shop's customers, who professed knowledge of the authenticity of some medieval item she brought in because she saw similar items in movies, a statement that elicited no response. I think that's part of the attraction of the show-- seeing how stupid and gullible some people can be about the value and authenticity of the items they bring in, much of which they seem to "find" in their grandfather's gtarage. That, along with the price they expect to get from a pawn shop. In contrast, I also get a kick out of watching the Rick get a $7,000 appraisal by one of their experts and then offering the seller $750. It sure beats watching "amateurs" sing and dance each week. Bring back Arthur Godfrey and Ted Mack. Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour!!! Bring back the original "high test" Milk of Magnesia. Great-Aunt Em lived 97 years thanks to the stuff. ************** Don't forget Geritol and Serutan ("Natures" spelled backwards!) ************** When I was really young, I had a hard time distinguishing between Arthur Godfrey, Ronald Reagan and my Great-Uncle Elmer. They all looked the same to me, Ronald Reagan might have been a touch younger looking than the other two. ************ When I was a kid and Arthur Godfrey was making his transition from radio to TV, he was like the Walter Cronkite of his day. I don't recall your great-uncle Elmer. |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
On Aug 22, 6:06*pm, "Bremick" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 1:58 pm, Reid Goldsborough wrote: On 8/22/2010 3:10 PM, oly wrote: IMHO, the practical experience of working in a Pawn Shop for over twenty years could very well offset the apparent lack of diploma-like credentials from some institution of higher learning. He really worked in a Pawn Shop for all this time? I guess that's some kind of more proper pawn shop, a noun of a different case. From you postings I can also see how you would say that this is the equivalent of a college degree in art history, archeology, or a similar topic, an offset to this. Perhaps he could get a college degree for such salt-of-the-earth real-world experience then use it to teach in a college setting, setting straight those elitist ivory tower snobs and know-it-alls with their vacuous book learnin' and field research. -- Consumer:http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur:http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit:http://rg.ancients.info/bogos Pretty weak there, even by Reed "standards". *Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials, but he doesn't wear them on his sleeve (like some people). *He is apparently a very successful businessman (unlike some people). BTW, what are your formal academic credentials, there, Gainsburger? oly ****************** I wouldn't be surprised if Rick was pulling in more income than most English Lit majors with Doctorate degrees, even without the TV deal and maybe even a high school education. *Looks like he has more fun, too, without six figures remaining on his school loan. The way his restoration experts butcher some of the rusty hulks he buys in the name of "restoration", I'm surprised he doesn't polish all the old coins he takes in. *His "restored" vending machines, juke boxes, gasoline pumps, old cars, etc. would make any serious collector of these items gag.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Based upon the deafening silence, does Reedie even have a legit bachelor's degree??? Exactly how people feel about "working-on" stuff varies from hobby to hobby. For instance, in military medals (rather similar to coins), polishing is absolutely O.K. If I don't know some genuine collectors in an area, people who've made it clear to me what's the norm, it's difficult to say whether restoration is good or no. In coin collecting, cleaning is a blanket excuse for dealers not to buy if that's how they feel at any given moment. However, we know what happens all the time. oly |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 5:45 pm, "Bremick" wrote: "oly" wrote in message ... Anybody watch "Pawn Stars"??? Rick Harrison, the Old Man, son Corey and flunkey Chumley at their Pawn Shop in Las Vegas??? (Well, actually, it doesn't belong to Chumley). It's really one of the few TV shows (besides Wheel of Fortune) that my wife and I can sit down and both enjoy. It's frequently contrived (it has to be, it would take years and years for all that good stuff to come in off-the-street, although you might see most of it over one or two decades), and I think that the prices paid tend to be difficult to believe - at least somewhat high, I would guess. Probably slightly glorifies a hard-nosed and tough business. Also, television shifting from the supposedly profitable "house- flipping" to "guess what I just gotta pawn today" is a sign of the times. But still, a really good TV show. Anybody have any insights??? oly My wife and I and another couple stopped in there last October enroute to St. George, UT for the Huntsman Senior Games. Hardly anyone in the place, compared to what the scene looks like today in the latest episodes. The only "regular" there at the time was the Old Man and he happily(?) posed for a photo with us. Then he left, hopped into his purple pickup truck and drove away. The couple we were with bought a diamond ring and were quite happy with it. Otherwise, most of the effort in the shop seemed to involve the display and sale of Pawn Stars T-shirts. I agree that the whole show seems contrived with people bringing items to a pawn shop that they could easily sell elsewhere for more with minimal effort. Especially coins. I saw common date silver dollars in their showcase for $25 apiece. I have to wonder what they paid for them. I should have asked what they would offer. IMO, it is interesting and it's the only reality-type show I come close to watching. I see too much reality every day without using the TV.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can think of at least a half-dozen old timey coin dealers who fell out of exactly the same mold as "Old Man". His wife or somebody got him off some bad habits in just a nick of time. He's a gem. There's nothing wrong with selling tee shirts, IMHO. It's fairly honest and straight-forward. Many sellers could get a lot more for the good stuff, especially by bringing in a specialized auctioneer, but the sellers apparently aren't the types who can plan much ahead. Gotta have cash today, friend??? That's a service you're gonna pay for. ****************** If I had a Civil War Confederate pistol or a set of Educational notes and had done enough research to know that, I would at least try a couple antique dealers and coin shops before settling on a pawn shop. But who knows, maybe these people did just that. I didn't buy a T-shirt. |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
On Aug 22, 3:11*pm, oly wrote:
Pretty weak there, even by Reed "standards". *Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials, but he doesn't wear them on his sleeve (like some people). *He is apparently a very successful businessman (unlike some people). Rick mentioned he dropped out of high school in the tenth grade because he was making $2,000 a week ---- Frank Provasek Rare Coins www.frankcoins.com http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/frankcoins Texas Auction License 11259, Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Member TNA, ANA, PCGS, NGC, ICTA - Full Time Since 1991 |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
On 8/22/2010 4:11 PM, oly wrote:
Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials This also is hilarious. Yes indeedy, he probably does have excellent academic credentials. Isn't it obvious by how much knowledge he displays on the show? But the word "excellent" here is highly subjective. I suspect, from your posts, you'd consider this as having graduated from high school. Or was graduated from, if you're a Miss Thistlebottom type, though this passive construction is no longer considered the only correct one now makes you look fuddyduddyish. With your trying to hard to poke fun at me by misspelling both of my names over and over, I know you're no Miss Thistlebottom and suspect without a Google search you even know what this means. You're much more of a Mr. Harrison, actually very much like him, come to think of it. Just the type, in a general kind of way, from what I've seen of his TV persona anyway. But feel free to share your SAT scores, GPAs, degrees, academic honors, and anything else you feel is of academic relevance, since you're asking so vociferously about my academic background and suggesting I didn't graduate from college. I did, with a bachelor and then a master degree. But I don't regard what a person did in preparation for a career as being the best indicator of that person's current proficiency or expertise. Relevant background, yes, useful, mostly, necessary, not necessarily, depending. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 6:06 pm, "Bremick" wrote: "oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 1:58 pm, Reid Goldsborough wrote: On 8/22/2010 3:10 PM, oly wrote: IMHO, the practical experience of working in a Pawn Shop for over twenty years could very well offset the apparent lack of diploma-like credentials from some institution of higher learning. He really worked in a Pawn Shop for all this time? I guess that's some kind of more proper pawn shop, a noun of a different case. From you postings I can also see how you would say that this is the equivalent of a college degree in art history, archeology, or a similar topic, an offset to this. Perhaps he could get a college degree for such salt-of-the-earth real-world experience then use it to teach in a college setting, setting straight those elitist ivory tower snobs and know-it-alls with their vacuous book learnin' and field research. -- Consumer:http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur:http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit:http://rg.ancients.info/bogos Pretty weak there, even by Reed "standards". Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials, but he doesn't wear them on his sleeve (like some people). He is apparently a very successful businessman (unlike some people). BTW, what are your formal academic credentials, there, Gainsburger? oly ****************** I wouldn't be surprised if Rick was pulling in more income than most English Lit majors with Doctorate degrees, even without the TV deal and maybe even a high school education. Looks like he has more fun, too, without six figures remaining on his school loan. The way his restoration experts butcher some of the rusty hulks he buys in the name of "restoration", I'm surprised he doesn't polish all the old coins he takes in. His "restored" vending machines, juke boxes, gasoline pumps, old cars, etc. would make any serious collector of these items gag.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Based upon the deafening silence, does Reedie even have a legit bachelor's degree??? Exactly how people feel about "working-on" stuff varies from hobby to hobby. For instance, in military medals (rather similar to coins), polishing is absolutely O.K. If I don't know some genuine collectors in an area, people who've made it clear to me what's the norm, it's difficult to say whether restoration is good or no. ******** Some of the ones that amazed me were *******ized vending machine and gas pump restorations that included pirated parts from various unrelated pieces and original innards replaced with the restorer's interpretation of what best filled the space. The results looked nice (almost TOO nice) and may have brought a profit, but not likely from a collector. I suppose that's the shop's bottom line anyway. Another one was a 1960's Lincoln Continental that they sent out to be restored. It came back with little authentic innards left, yet they envisioned getting a price for it that a true and faithful restoration might bring. Never heard the results. ********* In coin collecting, cleaning is a blanket excuse for dealers not to buy if that's how they feel at any given moment. However, we know what happens all the time. oly |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
On Aug 22, 2:22*pm, "Mr. Jaggers" wrote:
When is it on? *If that show airs opposite any of my favorite FoxNews shows, I'll miss it. James the Conservative GASP!!! "It's the big one Elizabeth!" Fred Sanford |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"Bremick" wrote in message ... "oly" wrote in message ... On Aug 22, 1:58 pm, Reid Goldsborough wrote: On 8/22/2010 3:10 PM, oly wrote: IMHO, the practical experience of working in a Pawn Shop for over twenty years could very well offset the apparent lack of diploma-like credentials from some institution of higher learning. He really worked in a Pawn Shop for all this time? I guess that's some kind of more proper pawn shop, a noun of a different case. From you postings I can also see how you would say that this is the equivalent of a college degree in art history, archeology, or a similar topic, an offset to this. Perhaps he could get a college degree for such salt-of-the-earth real-world experience then use it to teach in a college setting, setting straight those elitist ivory tower snobs and know-it-alls with their vacuous book learnin' and field research. -- Consumer:http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur:http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit:http://rg.ancients.info/bogos Pretty weak there, even by Reed "standards". Mr. Harrison could possibly have excellent academic credentials, but he doesn't wear them on his sleeve (like some people). He is apparently a very successful businessman (unlike some people). BTW, what are your formal academic credentials, there, Gainsburger? oly ****************** I wouldn't be surprised if Rick was pulling in more income than most English Lit majors with Doctorate degrees, even without the TV deal and maybe even a high school education. Looks like he has more fun, too, without six figures remaining on his school loan. The way his restoration experts butcher some of the rusty hulks he buys in the name of "restoration", I'm surprised he doesn't polish all the old coins he takes in. His "restored" vending machines, juke boxes, gasoline pumps, old cars, etc. would make any serious collector of these items gag. According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawn_Stars he was pulling down $2000 a week when he dropped out of 10th grade. |
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O.K. - "Pawn Stars" - What do you think???
"oly" wrote in message ... Anybody watch "Pawn Stars"??? Rick Harrison, the Old Man, son Corey and flunkey Chumley at their Pawn Shop in Las Vegas??? (Well, actually, it doesn't belong to Chumley). One of the few programs that I enjoy watching. It is more like a collectibles program with everything having a historical aspect--appropriate for the History Channel. It's really one of the few TV shows (besides Wheel of Fortune) that my wife and I can sit down and both enjoy. It's frequently contrived (it has to be, it would take years and years for all that good stuff to come in off-the-street, although you might see most of it over one or two decades), and I think that the prices paid tend to be difficult to believe - at least somewhat high, I would guess. Probably slightly glorifies a hard-nosed and tough business. It has to be contrived. I can't imagine a company having a camera in the parlking lot and asking every customer what they have to sell and how much they want for it. The experts are pretty interesting also. Talking to a friend the other night, he suggested that maybe the customers go to the experts first with something to sell and the experts send them to the pawn shop when that something is interesting. I can imagine the the experts' businesses have been helped by the exposure they receive on this show. Also, television shifting from the supposedly profitable "house- flipping" to "guess what I just gotta pawn today" is a sign of the times. But still, a really good TV show. Anybody have any insights??? It must be successful because a takeoff on it called "Hard Core Pawn" (about a pawn shop in Detroit) debuted a week or so ago on the crime channel, TruTV. The contrast is dramatic. -- Richard http://www.richlh.com Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance |
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