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Old February 2nd 08, 02:45 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter
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Bill wrote:
On Feb 1, 12:06 pm, Sam wrote:

http://www.bookthink.com/0053/53mil.htm



You make a number of good points. I have seen
many impressively inscribed books, and the
idea that they would somehow be better if they
had a mere signature instead of a thoughtful
inscription is absurd. I am referring to books
at least few decades old, I should add. I don't
have enough interest in a contemporary popular
fiction to give a hoot whether such books are
flatsigned or inscribed at considerable length.
(But if you have an inscribled Thomas Pynchon,
I might be interested!) When you are talking
about respected writers of earlier generations,
a good inscription adds so much. In my view,
a "good inscription" would mean it is by someone
with reasonably good handwriting (not an illegible
scrawl), is dated, and contains at least a bit of
interesting information. In many cases that might
mean the author is thanking someone in the book
publishing business for something, or is just referring
to shared experiences with a relative, friend, or
acquaintance. Just having an author sit down
in a publisher's office and sign a few thousand
copies of something (or, worse, have the
publisher mail a few thousand cards to the
author to be signed, returned, and inserted
in books) is not my idea of "value added."

[Memo from the upstairs office.]


Ellroy's "My Dark Places" comes to mind.


Francis A. Miniter
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Old February 2nd 08, 04:08 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Bill[_2_]
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On Feb 1, 1:29*pm, "foad" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

...
On Jan 24, 6:50 pm, "foad" wrote:

The whole thing is stupid. * The idea of using Imus to
promote (what is supposed to be) a serious book
signed by a figure of some dignity is crazy. * Sort
of like, "He *who hires a jackass to *promote a serious
book, should expect to be kicked in the backside."
(Something like that.) * *Nothing against Imus


Another subject about which Palmjob is ignorant, go figure. Imus sells more
books than anybody but Oprah.


Obviously you fritter away your time in the plebian
media world of Imus, Oprah, and no doubt
Letterman, too. You let these "intellectuals"
do your "thinking" for you, which of course
includes their telling you what to read,
"Foad"-the-Pnony. I don't even watch television.
I have my monitor and dvd for my movies, and
that's it. You see, I am the sort of person you
know nothing about, Mr. False-Named-Foad:
a book person. Unlike you, I don't play at
reading, I read. You, conversely, have
"thought processes" (being very generous
in my characterization of them!) logged into
your tv most of the time. That sad conclusion
is easily reached from your ignorant, tv-suckled-
and-bred comments. Books for you are little
more than a peripheral affectation. And, by
the way, unlike you, I post under my real name.
I don't at all appreciate your second-grade
name-mangling attempt at humor on that
score. No go back and suck on your tv
screen for another twenty hours, "Foad",
you cheesy fake...

[Memo from the upstairs office.]

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Old February 2nd 08, 01:38 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
foad[_5_]
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"Bill" wrote in message
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Obviously you fritter away your time in the plebian
media world of Imus, Oprah, and no doubt
Letterman, too. You let these "intellectuals"
do your "thinking" for you, which of course
includes their telling you what to read,
"Foad"-the-Pnony. I don't even watch television.
I have my monitor and dvd for my movies, and
that's it. You see, I am the sort of person you
know nothing about, Mr. False-Named-Foad:
a book person. Unlike you, I don't play at
reading, I read.


You read comic books Bilp, and write tedious essays about how scary the
covers are, when you're not being kicked around usenet by every newbie with
an imac and opposable thumbs.

Oprah and Imus sell books. I didn't say I read them, I said they sell them.
Check the NYBS list if you don't believe me. So hiring Imus to hawk your
books is a savvy business decision. What's stupid is hiring the dope to do
it then turning around and suing him when he acts like a dope.


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Old February 3rd 08, 01:53 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Bill[_2_]
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On Feb 2, 5:38*am, "foad" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

...

Obviously you fritter away your time in the plebian
media world of Imus, Oprah, and no doubt
Letterman, too. * You let these "intellectuals"
do your "thinking" for you, which of course
includes their telling you what to read,
"Foad"-the-Pnony. * *I don't even watch television.
I have my monitor and dvd for my movies, and
that's it. * You see, *I am the sort of person you
know nothing about, Mr. False-Named-Foad:
a book person. * Unlike you, I don't play at
reading, *I read.


You read comic books Bilp,


What does THAT have to do with the price of eggs
in China? The fact that I read some comic books
has nothing to do with the fact that I have read most
of the classics of English and American literature,
as well as a sizeable chunk of the best U. S. and
British prose and poetry of the 19th and 20th
Century. I also have read a great deal of world
literature and poetry in translation.

Comics are simply a different medium
providing a different experience than text-only
books. The fact that someone has seen one or
more movies based on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
does not prove they haven't read Stevenson's
novel, does it? It does not, any more than the
fact I have read the Classics Illustrated comic
book by Lou Cameron should suggest that I
have not read the novel. Books, comic books,
and movies provide different experiences. I
think the best of all of them is worth experiencing.

If anyone is curious about what comic books
I have been reading lately, I might add that I
don't like most of the new stuff. I think one of
the greatest things to happen in comics in
recent years was DC's decision to reprint Will
Eisner's "Spirit" newspaper comics from the
1940's and early 1950's. There are about
two dozen HARDCOVER volumes of these
fabulous full-color reprints now available
to book collectors with an interest in comics..


and write tedious essays about how scary the
covers are, when you're not being kicked around usenet by every newbie with
an imac and opposable thumbs.


Now you are dreaming. I begin to suspect that
I have probably toasted you a crisp on more or
painful (for you!) occasion, possibly so embarrassingly
for you that you took to crawling around under a new
fake name. You would not be the first spankard to try
and save face that way -- and your drivel would seem to
bear the unmistakeable stench of a sore flame war loser,
"Foad."

[Memo from the upstairs office.]

Oprah and Imus sell books. I didn't say I read them, I said they sell them..
Check the NYBS list if you don't believe me. So hiring Imus to hawk your
books is a savvy business decision. What's stupid is hiring the dope to do
it then turning around and suing him when he acts like a dope.


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Old February 3rd 08, 02:24 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
foad[_5_]
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"Bill" wrote in message
...

If anyone is curious about what comic books
I have been reading lately, I might add that


snip

Poor pliB, nobody cares whether you have more intense orgasms fantasizing
about Veronica or Betty.


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Old February 5th 08, 05:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
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I'd be more interested in hearing about the anniversary editions of To
Kill a Mockingbird supposedly signed by Harper Lee you sold back in
2001 that turned out to be forgeries.

On Feb 1, 10:20*am, wrote:
It is dissapointing that people who don't even know me make such
incredible remarks about a fellow human being. *Why not ask anyone for
information before publicly questioning their motives or ethics? *All
people should be afforded this democratic right and I hope you agree.
This lawsuit is about Don Imus telling lies and not honoring his
contract with me. *He also did the public a great disservice by
obviously not having read the book and saw that it had been made
available to the public for years, prior to the death of President
Ford. *It is a violation of our moral code and our law that somewhat
makes false statements, damaging another, on the public air-waves that
are also owned by all Americas. *Yes I want to sell books. *President
Ford knew he was going to die; we all do. *He selected this book to be
part of his legacy. *Mr. Imus failed to act responsibly when he made
statements that were both breach of contract and false. *What are you
doing that benefiting our world? *That was my goal and now I am side
tracked because others did not act responsibly. *I have always
answered questions when asked about any book I have ever published or
sold. *I stand willing to answer your questions as long as you keep an
open mind and are willing to learn new information and act accordingly
and professionally.
Best,
Tim Miller


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Old February 5th 08, 08:02 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Willow Arune[_2_]
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Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of
whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think
Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed
in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He
should be held accountable.

Willow


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Old February 5th 08, 08:22 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Kris Baker
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"Willow Arune" wrote in message
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Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of
whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone
is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think
Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply
failed
in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn.
He
should be held accountable.

Willow


Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what
he's going to get.

Flatsigned has got *more* publicity by hiring Imus to slam his
outdated book and then suing, than if he'd used a more
legitimate advertiser.

Kris

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Old February 5th 08, 09:03 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
RF
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On Feb 5, 3:02*pm, "Willow Arune" wrote:

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. *


As usual Mr. Sicko blathers on about that which he knows nothing.
Why not talk about what you DO know about: cutting your dick off?
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Old February 5th 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Willow Arune[_2_]
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"RF":

Go back to the Hardy boys - they are much more your style...

Simple, predictable and easy. Of course, the two lads were also polite -
you may have problems with that concept.

W.






"RF" wrote in message
...
On Feb 5, 3:02 pm, "Willow Arune" wrote:

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone

is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner.


As usual Mr. Sicko blathers on about that which he knows nothing.
Why not talk about what you DO know about: cutting your dick off?


 




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