Modern flex: Delta Fluida and Levenger Samba

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:36:07 +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen
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The Delta Fluida is not flexible at all. Hard as a nail steel nib,
nice fit into my hand (shape is something of interest). I have one and
will not part with it, in rotation with Herbin Black ink.

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

On 20 Sep 2005 13:10:48 -0700, "*david*" wrote:

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

Funny, if that is what people want, why doesn't someone make a real
flex nib???

I still say the closest is the Namiki Falcon, but I just stick with
cheap, old Watermans for the best quality.

Nellie

I suspect people may THINK they want a flexible nib, but if they got one
they wouldn't know what to do with it. Not that a light touch can't be
learned in an afternoon... But people are so used to ballpoints and
rolling writers (or rolling non-writers, as I think of them), that even a
non-flex fountain pen nib is a challenge. I wonder, too, if most people
would really like the variable width and density of line that a flex nib
provides. It might look too "old-timey."

Just some musing.

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:59:45 +0000, Nellie Paris wrote:

On 20 Sep 2005 13:10:48 -0700, "*david*" wrote:

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

Funny, if that is what people want, why doesn't someone make a real
flex nib???

I still say the closest is the Namiki Falcon, but I just stick with
cheap, old Watermans for the best quality.

Nellie

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:59:45 GMT, Nellie Paris
wrote:

On 20 Sep 2005 13:10:48 -0700, "*david*" wrote:

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

Funny, if that is what people want, why doesn't someone make a real
flex nib???


Or could it be along the simple line - any fountain pen nib will be
ever so slightly flexible when compared to a ballpoint? The nib does
'give' more so than the end of a ballpoint...

Nellie Paris wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 13:10:48 -0700, "*david*" wrote:

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

Funny, if that is what people want, why doesn't someone make a real
flex nib???

I didn't say it's what people want, but what they want to *hear*.

The majority of people who think they want a flexible nib want to
believe that their pen is "responsive" and "expressive". But if they
actually had a flex nib, they wouldn't be able to write very well with
it.

Now, if the average person were able to make their *writing* more
flexible and expressive, that would be very nice. But in reality, 99
per cent of them would best be able to do that with a stiff-nibbed pen.

Thus leaving the nice old Watermans for you. :-)

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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:59:45 GMT, Nellie Paris
wrote:

On 20 Sep 2005 13:10:48 -0700, "*david*" wrote:

Levenger always says the nib is flexible, because that's what people
want to hear. It isn't usually true.

Funny, if that is what people want, why doesn't someone make a real
flex nib???

Or could it be along the simple line - any fountain pen nib will be
ever so slightly flexible when compared to a ballpoint? The nib does
'give' more so than the end of a ballpoint...

What you're describing is a springy nib. A flex nib provides variable line
width, not just "give" which is what a springy nib does. But, not all ad
copywriters know the difference and often use "flexible" when the nib is
merely "springy."

"Let the buyer beware."

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Juhapekka in answer to yours and to reiterate what the group has told you. Levenger's copywriters claim ALL their nibs are flex. This is generally 90% false but Samba is fairly flexible, nice looking, badly made. I have one bought on a whim and impulse. Stipula 22 (ventitude) is supposed to be flexible. I've heard that there are QC and ink feeder problems though on closeout right now for 50-60% off. I always thought titanium was one of the toughest hardest metals so cannot fathom how it can be flexible as well. But that's for the metallurgists amongst us. It's a nice looker.

Best modern flex (and semi at that) is the rather nice Namiki Falcon which can be found from 80-120. It is a nice writer.

If you, or anyone wants Platinum's 22k soft and flexible gold nib in a great burgundy pen which goes for 175 I have for sale at 145. Details b/c

Best and have fine time

Dov

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