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1794 half cent (not mine)
Yes I know there is a lot of leeway for 18th century coppers but Fine?
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1794 half cent (not mine)
That coin has Fine-15 detail, but the corosion would limit the final
price to perhaps that at VG--8 level. Overall, not a bad coin, but the two or three leading grading services won't slab it due to the corrosion, probably bodybagging it with the notion "environmental damage." Possibly a metal detector find. Ira |
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1794 half cent (not mine)
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... That coin has Fine-15 detail, but the corosion would limit the final price to perhaps that at VG--8 level. Overall, not a bad coin, but the two or three leading grading services won't slab it due to the corrosion, probably bodybagging it with the notion "environmental damage." Possibly a metal detector find. Ira I don't think I'd even go F-12 detail especially on the reverse, Ira. There's too much legend missing because of the off-center strike. That said, it's a worthwhile coin, and the final selling price is less than you'd have to pay a dealer at a show who refused to deduct for the poor surfaces. Mr. Jaggers |
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1794 half cent (not mine)
The weakness on the reverse is not a result of wear, Mr.J, but of
uneven strike. Most of the reverse shows excellent detail in the wreath and in the denomination. I've seen a 1793 Half Cent (I sold it) with the words Half Cent completely absent on the reverse that PCGS had graded VF-30. That was a chracteristic of the die variety, and the aforementioned coin was in the late die state. Otherwise, coin had decent detail on obverse and what remained of the reverse. Mind you, IU'm not talking about EAC grading here, just mrket grading. Of course, that coin had smooth surfaces, this does not. But, from a standpoiny of wear, I'd stick with F-15. Ira |
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1794 half cent (not mine)
"Ira" wrote in message oups.com... The weakness on the reverse is not a result of wear, Mr.J, but of uneven strike. Most of the reverse shows excellent detail in the wreath and in the denomination. I've seen a 1793 Half Cent (I sold it) with the words Half Cent completely absent on the reverse that PCGS had graded VF-30. That was a chracteristic of the die variety, and the aforementioned coin was in the late die state. Otherwise, coin had decent detail on obverse and what remained of the reverse. Mind you, IU'm not talking about EAC grading here, just mrket grading. Of course, that coin had smooth surfaces, this does not. But, from a standpoiny of wear, I'd stick with F-15. Ira Uneven strike? If you mean "vertically maligned strike", it is possible, however this is not a characteristic of this die variety - and that point is key. More likely this lack of striking detail is due to a tapered planchet, which occured in the rolling process. The only way to confirm the cause is to measure thickness at the area of opposing weakness. If it is thinner than rest you have a tapered planchet; if it does not differ from the rest, you have a maligned strike. I believe "detail" should not be penalized (or at the very least, given allowance) for minting or pre-strike errors. In the case of either vertically maligned strikes or tapered planchets, I only grade the areas where metal flowed as designed. I do not see any "sharp" devices on the reverse or obverse, though I would call everything "bold" - VG-10. With the poor surface condition (which is not too bad), I would give it an overall G-6 net. BTW - the heavy bulge below the cap extend to left of the date IS characteristic of the later die states of the C-4a, and contributes nothing to the weakness or grading. Buck PS - I see the seller has re-listed at $460 - very close to the Noyes Penny Prices value given this variety in G-5. |
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