Modern Hinges

I have been using stamp hinges since about 1957. I know of no product
whose quality has deteriorated so much in that time.
47 Years ago, one could buy for about 10 cents per thousand, hinges that
lay flat, and were easily peeled off when needed, you may have had to
fold them yourself, but so what.
Now,you're lucky if removing the hinge doesn't thin the stamp, at best
you're going to get an ugly remnant.The latest wrinkle is that the
hinges roll up into tiny "scrolls" which have to be straightened out
before use. This is very difficult and they sometimes roll up again
when you are trying to stick them to the back of the stamp. (I've had
packets of hinges in the past which sat around literally for decades
without this happening.)
I'll name names here the brand is Prinz. I thought German products were
good.
Manufacturers, come on. We aren't talking about rocket science here.Why
can't you make hinges that don't roll up and are easily peelable.I don't
really care if they are pre-folded.
Readers, please don't suggest that I buy ancient hinges at auction. I
don't feel like paying more for a hinge than the value of the stamp it
holds.Besides, the supply of Dennison, Fold-O etc. will eventually be
exhausted.
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AK47 a formulé la demande :
I have been using stamp hinges since about 1957. I know of no product
whose quality has deteriorated so much in that time.
47 Years ago, one could buy for about 10 cents per thousand, hinges that
lay flat, and were easily peeled off when needed, you may have had to
fold them yourself, but so what.
Now,you're lucky if removing the hinge doesn't thin the stamp, at best
you're going to get an ugly remnant.The latest wrinkle is that the
hinges roll up into tiny "scrolls" which have to be straightened out
before use. This is very difficult and they sometimes roll up again
when you are trying to stick them to the back of the stamp. (I've had
packets of hinges in the past which sat around literally for decades
without this happening.)
I'll name names here the brand is Prinz. I thought German products were
good.
Manufacturers, come on. We aren't talking about rocket science here.Why
can't you make hinges that don't roll up and are easily peelable.I don't
really care if they are pre-folded.
Readers, please don't suggest that I buy ancient hinges at auction. I
don't feel like paying more for a hinge than the value of the stamp it
holds.Besides, the supply of Dennison, Fold-O etc. will eventually be
exhausted.

Hello!

In France I have the same problem, I too use hinges on my "used"
stamps!
It is also difficult to find to buy such things, prices are higher then
1 $ the 1000 because it doesn't exist a lot of people that now use
hinghes: they use "plastic mounts" or stockbooks!!

Sorry to can't help you! But if someone finds good hinges I'll interest
to get 2 or three packets (against some bank notes or stamps mint at
facial value)

HA VE A GOOD DAY? HERE IT IS A SNOWING DAY.

--
Jean-Paul DROGER (enlever "anti." et remplacer "ptt" par "wanadoo" pour
me joindre en perso; remove "anti." and replace "ptt" by "wanadoo" to
answer me directly)

I too have cold feelings toward the stamp hinges.
Experience has taught me not to pull the old hinge off the stamp, soak it off
and then you do not have to worry about hinge marks and more important thinning
the stamp. I did ruin many stamps pulling the hinge off.
Also very important when applying hinges is to use very little moisture. The
most simple way is with the tip of the tounge. ( Ignore the taste.and forget
about what the glue is made from.)

Ralphael, the OLD master

Without wanting to get dubbed a conspiracy theorist, I think that the mount
manufacturers (Hawid et al) have bought the hinge makers and intentionally
lowered the quality so that we feel obliged to shell out a pile of money on
their mounts rather than using the reasonably priced hinges. Now, if you'll
excuse me, I believe I hear the feds kicking my door down....


--
Cheers - John Mycroft
coryton_at_cobbsmill_dot_com

Without wanting to get dubbed a conspiracy theorist,

Well, people will do it anyway! ;-))

I think that the mount
manufacturers (Hawid et al) have bought the hinge makers and intentionally
lowered the quality so that we feel obliged to shell out a pile of money on
their mounts rather than using the reasonably priced hinges.+

There is a hinge available today with very acceptable performance. It
is the "Dennis'" Hinge - but it is only for "NON-GUM" stamps. It is
stable, does not curl and can be peeled from "NON-GUM" stamps almost
as easily as the old Dennison Or Fold-O Hinge. It should never be
used on mint/stamps with gum, it will not peel. The only place I've
seen Dennis' hinges for sale was on eBay - but I'm sure dealers
someplace have them. I think the market price is about $2.99 a pack.

If you want use hinges to mount mint stamps then you'll have to fork
over the premium for old Dennison or Cohn Fold-O hinges. Even at
$10.00 a pack, that comes to only a penny each - a heck of a lot
cheaper than mounts - and in the end, these are the only things
available today for mounting in albums. Penny a hinge, 40 cents a
mount.

As far as Hawid, G&B, Scott, Prinz and their ilk lowering the quailty
of their hinges - I don't think they did - I think their hinges always
were trash!

Handshakes,

Dakota

Dakota wrote:

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used on mint/stamps with gum, it will not peel. The only place I've
seen Dennis' hinges for sale was on eBay - but I'm sure dealers
someplace have them. I think the market price is about $2.99 a pack.

Subway Stamp http:www.subwaystamp.com carries them, $2.40/pk. They
claim on their website that G&K (part of Subway) bought the old Dennison
machine, rebuilt it, and bought the old formula too & are using it to
mfgr hinges now.

If you want use hinges to mount mint stamps then you'll have to fork
over the premium for old Dennison or Cohn Fold-O hinges. Even at
$10.00 a pack, that comes to only a penny each - a heck of a lot
cheaper than mounts - and in the end, these are the only things
available today for mounting in albums. Penny a hinge, 40 cents a
mount.

How old do these pkgs have to be to be the 'good' old ones? I've 3 pkgs
of Dennison's from about 1980 when my oldest dabbled in stamps. They're
in red, white & blue packs of 1000 (No. 48-064) and have a light green
tint to them. Cost me 75¢/pkg then.

Dakota wrote:

There is a hinge available today with very acceptable performance. It
is the "Dennis'" Hinge - but it is only for "NON-GUM" stamps. It is
stable, does not curl and can be peeled from "NON-GUM" stamps almost
as easily as the old Dennison Or Fold-O Hinge. It should never be
used on mint/stamps with gum, it will not peel. The only place I've
seen Dennis' hinges for sale was on eBay - but I'm sure dealers
someplace have them. I think the market price is about $2.99 a pack.

Dennis's are made by Subway Stamp Show, details at
http://www.subwaystamp.com/shop/detail.asp?itemid=5582

On 29 Jan 2004 13:48:06 GMT, (Stamps4ra) wrote:

I too have cold feelings toward the stamp hinges.
Experience has taught me not to pull the old hinge off the stamp, soak it off
and then you do not have to worry about hinge marks and more important thinning
the stamp. I did ruin many stamps pulling the hinge off.
Also very important when applying hinges is to use very little moisture. The
most simple way is with the tip of the tounge. ( Ignore the taste.and forget
about what the glue is made from.)

Ralphael, the OLD master

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Welcome back to RCSD, Ralph. Glad to see you
amongst us once again.

Blair


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On 29 Jan 2004 10:56:03 -0800, (Dakota) wrote:

Without wanting to get dubbed a conspiracy theorist,

Well, people will do it anyway! ;-))

I think that the mount
manufacturers (Hawid et al) have bought the hinge makers and intentionally
lowered the quality so that we feel obliged to shell out a pile of money on
their mounts rather than using the reasonably priced hinges.+

There is a hinge available today with very acceptable performance. It
is the "Dennis'" Hinge - but it is only for "NON-GUM" stamps. It is
stable, does not curl and can be peeled from "NON-GUM" stamps almost
as easily as the old Dennison Or Fold-O Hinge. It should never be
used on mint/stamps with gum, it will not peel. The only place I've
seen Dennis' hinges for sale was on eBay - but I'm sure dealers
someplace have them. I think the market price is about $2.99 a pack.

If you want use hinges to mount mint stamps then you'll have to fork
over the premium for old Dennison or Cohn Fold-O hinges. Even at
$10.00 a pack, that comes to only a penny each - a heck of a lot
cheaper than mounts - and in the end, these are the only things
available today for mounting in albums. Penny a hinge, 40 cents a
mount.

As far as Hawid, G&B, Scott, Prinz and their ilk lowering the quailty
of their hinges - I don't think they did - I think their hinges always
were trash!

Handshakes,

Dakota

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Dennis's Hinges (for USED stamps) are made and sold by SUBWAY STAMP
Shop. They are currently on sale at $2.40 per 1000 hinge packet.
http://www.subwaystamp.com/

(I am not connected with them.)

Blair




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On 29 Jan 2004 10:56:03 -0800, (Dakota) wrote:

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There is a hinge available today with very acceptable performance. It
is the "Dennis'" Hinge - but it is only for "NON-GUM" stamps. It is
stable, does not curl and can be peeled from "NON-GUM" stamps almost
as easily as the old Dennison Or Fold-O Hinge. It should never be
used on mint/stamps with gum, it will not peel. The only place I've
seen Dennis' hinges for sale was on eBay - but I'm sure dealers
someplace have them. I think the market price is about $2.99 a pack.

How about Subway Stamps - where they make "Dennis" hinges?

snip

It think it is www.subwaystamp.com and they just so happen to have
this item right there, ready to look at. :^)

I still need to invest in many 1000s of hinges, so I'm staying quite
on top of this subject.

Tracy Barber