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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
Whereas the 1955 DD cent was struck from a die that had been hubbed twice,
out of register, resulting in the significant offset of IGWT, LIBERTY, and the date, why isn't the bust of Lincoln likewise doubled? What am I missing here? Please, somebody, 'splain. Mr. Jaggers 'should know this, but I don't' |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
Mr J,
The way the die cutting device works, doubling increases as the cutting blade moves out radially from the center, so doubling close to center is often barely diecernable if at all, but usually most pronounced near the rims, as it is on the 1955 DDO. Ira |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Mr J, The way the die cutting device works, doubling increases as the cutting blade moves out radially from the center, so doubling close to center is often barely diecernable if at all, but usually most pronounced near the rims, as it is on the 1955 DDO. Ira Then why does the top of Lincoln's head, just in the near shadow of IGWT, not show doubling, while the Y in LIBERTY and the 1 in the date, much closer to the center, show it? Jag |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:49 -0500, Mr. Jaggers lugburzman wrote:
Whereas the 1955 DD cent was struck from a die that had been hubbed twice, out of register, resulting in the significant offset of IGWT, LIBERTY, and the date, why isn't the bust of Lincoln likewise doubled? What am I missing here? Please, somebody, 'splain. Pretty sure that it is, it's just that it's a radius thing - 2 degrees of rotation at the edges (or whatever the '55 DD's rotation is) is very noticable on sharp features like letters and numbers. That same rotation at a smaller distance from the middle, especially on a soft design feature like Lincoln's bust, will be there but nowhere near as visible. I bet his eye shows the doubling to some extent? Also the VDB on the shoulder? I don't have a '55 DD to check... Dave Hinz |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
Jaggers writes:
Then why does the top of Lincoln's head, just in the near shadow of IGWT, not show doubling, while the Y in LIBERTY and the 1 in the date, much closer to the center, show it? The heat actually is doubled, but since the features are indistict, unlike the lettering and numberls, it just shows a s a very softly detailed portrait, far softer, for example, than a non-doubled 1955. Ira |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Jaggers writes: Then why does the top of Lincoln's head, just in the near shadow of IGWT, not show doubling, while the Y in LIBERTY and the 1 in the date, much closer to the center, show it? The heat actually is doubled, but since the features are indistict, unlike the lettering and numberls, it just shows a s a very softly detailed portrait, far softer, for example, than a non-doubled 1955. Ira As I write, I hold in my hand a PCGS AU-58 example of the coin in question, procured a few years ago from one of eBay's finest sellers, and spending a few days here at home with me. I've been all over the portrait with a 10X and I think I see a doubled lower lip, eyelid, forelock, part of the bowtie, and a couple of lines in the coat. Am I imagining all this, or is this all for real? Jag |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
I pulled out my ANACS AU55 1955DD cent to look
for the VDB. I can't even see the letters. Since the letters are incused, perhaps they got flattened during the second hubbing. "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 May 2006 14:38:49 -0500, Mr. Jaggers lugburzman wrote: Whereas the 1955 DD cent was struck from a die that had been hubbed twice, out of register, resulting in the significant offset of IGWT, LIBERTY, and the date, why isn't the bust of Lincoln likewise doubled? What am I missing here? Please, somebody, 'splain. Pretty sure that it is, it's just that it's a radius thing - 2 degrees of rotation at the edges (or whatever the '55 DD's rotation is) is very noticable on sharp features like letters and numbers. That same rotation at a smaller distance from the middle, especially on a soft design feature like Lincoln's bust, will be there but nowhere near as visible. I bet his eye shows the doubling to some extent? Also the VDB on the shoulder? I don't have a '55 DD to check... Dave Hinz |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
I also noticed the double lip and eyelid on my piece.
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Jaggers writes: Then why does the top of Lincoln's head, just in the near shadow of IGWT, not show doubling, while the Y in LIBERTY and the 1 in the date, much closer to the center, show it? The heat actually is doubled, but since the features are indistict, unlike the lettering and numberls, it just shows a s a very softly detailed portrait, far softer, for example, than a non-doubled 1955. Ira As I write, I hold in my hand a PCGS AU-58 example of the coin in question, procured a few years ago from one of eBay's finest sellers, and spending a few days here at home with me. I've been all over the portrait with a 10X and I think I see a doubled lower lip, eyelid, forelock, part of the bowtie, and a couple of lines in the coat. Am I imagining all this, or is this all for real? Jag |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
Looking on Ebay, they now have come out with something called the "poor
man's double die", which is apparantly a 1955 double die cent which isn't as distinct as a "true" double die. Not worth nearly as much as a true DD. |
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1955 Doubled Die Cent?
On 15 May 2006 18:53:22 -0700, "The Space Boss"
wrote: Looking on Ebay, they now have come out with something called the "poor man's double die", which is apparantly a 1955 double die cent which isn't as distinct as a "true" double die. Not worth nearly as much as a true DD. Taint nothin' new. I can remember hearing about them at least 25 years ago. What's new, of course, is that special eBay hype ("The 'other' double die retails for $24 billion in this condition!!!!!") My understanding of the cause is abrasion on the die that makes the last "5" appear doubled take care, Scott |
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