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"Clyde Crashcup" wrote in message ... "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... You say you want to talk coins, so let's talk coins, and I'll take a cue from your essay. I hope you are able to take advantage of the best health system in the world, though, because here comes Heart Attack City. When Reid says he wants to talk about coins, what he really wants to do is give another long-winded, self-serving, bombastic opinion of RCC and the world in general, the upshot of it generally being that he, and only he, has any numismatic knowledge and integrity and no one else should be allowed to post unless it is in complete agreement with him and his high estimation of himself. Whew! Poor widdle Reid, so much knowledge to share and nobody wants to listen to you... Mommy! Mommy! Bruce's throwing stones at the sand castle I spent all this time on! Tell him to stop! I could just picture Reid monitoring the activities at his coin club meeting and scolding groups of members who he catches discussing things other than coins. It's a shame that someone with obvious coin knowledge never perfected how to share it with others in a way that they will want to hear more.. |
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In article , Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On 2/20/2010 9:38 AM, mazorj wrote: Let the flaming and numismatic nitpicking begin. You guessed it. g It already has, led by Bruce Remick. He and the others who post here most regularly, who live here, account for the nature of this group, which has always been the case. Usenet is a lowest-common-denominator phenomenon, with the loudest and most frequent posters controlling things, bringing things down to their level. Usenet has the lowest signal-to-noise ratio of any Internet communications medium. My post generated, immediately, four responses that have zero content dealing with the subject matter of the group, which my post dealt with, or anything related to the content in my post, with your response accurately predicting this. Another example: The most popular thread here in recent weeks, by a huge amount, has been about the weather, with 186 messages in the "Snowy RCC?" thread. On target content-full posts about numismatics, typically, get 2 to 5 responses, with exceptions. Posts about the weather and politics get 186 and 79 responses. No wonder Usenet in general and this group in particular have been in such decline, that so many people have left, and that one ISP after another has discontinued their Usenet feeds to subscribers. What to make of this? I think it's a telling commentary about human nature, about how, too often, things don't go optimally when people are entirely left to their own devices. Lord of the Flies. Usenet has and always has had FAQs and other attempts at guidance. But people ignore them. Other Internet communications technologies do a better job of reigning in. This short analysis, naturally, will just lead to more of what you previously predicted, flaming and nitpicking, with one utterly predictable response being that I'm whining and another utterly predictable one being, don't let the door hit your derriere on the way out.You know, creative stuff. g Somebody thinking they're being terribly clever will no doubt just ape these very words. If one person leaves a substantive response, dealing with the subject matter that I just addressed, I believe I just might fall off my chair. If one person discusses anything related to numismatics as a result of my opening post in this thread, I believe I just may have a coronary. Or not. i have some knowledge of psycho trolls. kill then with a keystroke. you can neutralize them by ignoring them. i like your comments, the read was worth the 5 minutes. i remember the bogus bust half i sold, advertised as a fake. it went to a guy who loves them and will probably love it while he's alive. most people have a floating scale of honesty. temptation+assets=honesty. there are always a few who steal just because they can. |
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On 2/20/2010 12:45 PM, Bruce Remick wrote:
I just couldn't resistg. You have this harsh opinion of Usenet, yet you chose it to introduce your autobiography and views on life?g You couch this as a joke, but you said the same thing, not jokingly, as the first response to my post, which you also felt the need to point out you didn't read. This is the kind of behavior so common to Usenet that puts a damper over everything. You say I'm so into myself because I post a long message, described clearly as a long message, detailing my experiences buying and selling coins over the past decade. It wasn't an autobiography, not even close. Yet you feel compelled to respond to it saying you didn't read it and otherwise being picayune and snide. Nowhere else but Usenet, nearly nowhere else, would somebody like you feel compelled to comment on things they don't read! -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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On 2/20/2010 1:36 PM, Mr. Jaggers wrote:
Yep, we're just a nest of vipers At least someone is honest here. lurking for the next victim who dares test the waters with his big toe. Kind of like one Mr. Goldsborough occasionally does, as he so aptly demonstrated some months ago when I, in my naiveté, dared to make an on-topic post about a numismatic publication. Medice, cura te ipsum. And you still haven't gotten over your hurt feelings because I had the audacity to post something critical of a book you spoke so lovingly about rebinding. Books are not just paper, ink, and glue. They're primarily words and ideas and facts, or attempts at facts. The latter, again, is what I was focused on in discussing Breen's encyclopedia. Now when I post about anything more often than not you feel compelled to related this back to Breen. The fact that you have counted 186 posts that you consider off-topic in the I didn't count 186 posts! Google Groups does the counting, and all I did was check it. Let's talk "Colonial" coppers for a moment, specifically those that were Let's talk? I'd like to, but I know next to nothing about "Colonial" coppers. Can't collect, and know about, every coin type. You know that, right? These coins sound interesting though. I can see why you're interested in them. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On 2/20/2010 1:36 PM, Mr. Jaggers wrote: Yep, we're just a nest of vipers At least someone is honest here. lurking for the next victim who dares test the waters with his big toe. Kind of like one Mr. Goldsborough occasionally does, as he so aptly demonstrated some months ago when I, in my naiveté, dared to make an on-topic post about a numismatic publication. Medice, cura te ipsum. And you still haven't gotten over your hurt feelings because I had the audacity to post something critical of a book you spoke so lovingly about rebinding. Books are not just paper, ink, and glue. They're primarily words and ideas and facts, or attempts at facts. The latter, again, is what I was focused on in discussing Breen's encyclopedia. Now when I post about anything more often than not you feel compelled to related this back to Breen. How do you expect anyone to engage you in any kind of meaningful dialog when you come out guns ablaze at anything that doesn't suit you? I would love to respond to your lengthy treatise, but I know exactly what would happen. Your reputation precedes you, bigtime. You do reruns, I do reruns. The fact that you have counted 186 posts that you consider off-topic in the I didn't count 186 posts! Google Groups does the counting, and all I did was check it. That's fine, but if all you checked was the quantity, you can't possibly have any idea of their content, yet you come on here making generalizations as if you had. Let's talk "Colonial" coppers for a moment, specifically those that were Let's talk? I'd like to, but I know next to nothing about "Colonial" coppers. Can't collect, and know about, every coin type. You know that, right? I most certainly do, but I did purposely bring up the topic of counterfeits, which is one of your known fortes. Silly me, I thought that you might wish to engage me in an area of your expertise. These coins sound interesting though. I can see why you're interested in them. They are very interesting, and I'm in my numismatic infancy where this material is concerned. I'd love to hear commentary from you or any other RCC folks who have an interest in the field. Unfortunately, as you are so very well aware, the topic is arcane, and not likely to be popular here. That's not a criticism, that's an observation based on several years of participation in this group. James |
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oly wrote:
On Feb 20, 1:13 pm, "Clyde Crashcup" wrote: "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... You say you want to talk coins, so let's talk coins, and I'll take a cue from your essay. I hope you are able to take advantage of the best health system in the world, though, because here comes Heart Attack City. When Reid says he wants to talk about coins, what he really wants to do is give another long-winded, self-serving, bombastic opinion of RCC and the world in general, the upshot of it generally being that he, and only he, has any numismatic knowledge and integrity and no one else should be allowed to post unless it is in complete agreement with him and his high estimation of himself. Whew! Poor widdle Reid, so much knowledge to share and nobody wants to listen to you... RF!!!!!! My man!!!!!! The man!!!!!! Wondered about your whereabouts from time to time. That's not RF, that's Leonardo posting as RF posting as Clyde Crashcup. James the Inventor |
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In article , Reid Goldsborough wrote:
On 2/20/2010 2:50 PM, in wrote: i like your comments, the read was worth the 5 minutes. i remember the bogus bust half i sold, advertised as a fake. it went to a guy who loves them and will probably love it while he's alive. Bogus Bust halves are one of the most interesting series of bogos. A new book on collecting them just came out, but you can't collect everything. I've focused on Bust dollars, but unlike them Bust halves were used much more as money. And as far as I've been able to discover, no contemporaneous counterfeits of Bust dollars were ever produced, or very few anyway, unlike the situation with Bust halves. I just came across something on this, actually, at the ANS library about two weeks ago, in a monograph published in 1845, yep, 1845, titled "Monograph of the Silver Dollar, Good and Bad," by J.L. Riddell, M.D. Despite the title the author also discussed in detail half dollars, including contemporaneous fakes. But he said this about dollars: "No counterfeits of the United States Dollar, [sic] have come to my observation. Coins seem to be counterfeited just in proportion to the rudeness of their workmanship, and their abundances in general circulation. The dollar has never constituted an important part of the general pecuniary circulation; and the workmanship being comparatively good, it has, I imagine, very seldom been spuriously made." thanks. i wish i could read the whole thing. even as late as my childhood, halves circulated. i remembered having a walker when i was 8, that's why i collected them later. bust halves seem as varied as varieties of hi-tops. |
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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... On 2/20/2010 12:45 PM, Bruce Remick wrote: I just couldn't resistg. You have this harsh opinion of Usenet, yet you chose it to introduce your autobiography and views on life?g You couch this as a joke, but you said the same thing, not jokingly, as the first response to my post, which you also felt the need to point out you didn't read. This is the kind of behavior so common to Usenet that puts a damper over everything. You say I'm so into myself because I post a long message, described clearly as a long message, detailing my experiences buying and selling coins over the past decade. It wasn't an autobiography, not even close. Yet you feel compelled to respond to it saying you didn't read it and otherwise being picayune and snide. Nowhere else but Usenet, nearly nowhere else, would somebody like you feel compelled to comment on things they don't read! No joke intended. The g is meant strictly in parody of your prolific use of it in your posts. Seeing who the author is was enough. You're not interested in getting people to talk about coins. You're interested in having people listen to YOU talk about coins. Seldom have you ever initiated a thread here where your second post doesn't contain some kind of insult, complaint, analysis of others' perceived shortcomings, etc. Ever wonder why your posts seem to breed this kind of reaction? So sorry if I've put a damper over everything on Usenet. Anything you post here is fair game for my comment, whether I choose to read it or not. (Actually I DID start to scan through it to see if there would be anything new or of interest. I passed a dozen paragraphs and the tracking bar still showed about 80% of a page left so I gave up and sped to the end. If you were trying attract a newbie to respond, so far it looks like your overkill worked against you. Otherwise, any regulars who actually read your posts probably already know all they care to about your activities and interests. |
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... Seeing who the author is was enough. You're not interested in getting people to talk about coins. You're interested in having people listen to YOU talk about coins. This was accurate when I first posted it in 2003. http://mendosus.com/glomthis.html Unchanged, it retains its accuracy in 2010. (The little crying figure is Reid, in case some folk don't recognise him) :-) -- Jeff R. |
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