decent score? update

The tapes arrived. American versions of Blsck Sabbath Paranoid (quad) and Jimi
Hendrix Experience Are You Experienced? Very cool. Eagle eyes award to Paul;
that WAS a Canadian quad of Chicago 2 (tape 2). BUT...I also got a Canadian
quad of Ten Years After A Space In Time. Been on the backburner of my want
list for a while.
I'll probably auction off the rest of them soon. regards, ron

If you're into obsessively hoarding oddball tapes for lack of more
productive pursuits, I guess that's a good find.

If you're into creating a realistic soundstage and imaging from an
audio playback system, quad is about the worst thing you could
possibly do to a recording. With efficient speakers and a tube amp,
you don't need quad.

Quad is anti-fidelity and anti-realistic.

In professional listening rooms dedicated to music playback, much is
done to ELIMINATE the echo effects and reflected sound coming from
behind the listener. They actually build diffusers from wood and
insulation and bolt them to the walls, just to absorb and remove the
sounds that quad actually creates. Much like those highway sound
barriers.

I've listened to a few quads myself and the mixes on most were
downright laughable, they are only as good as the sound engineer who
mixed them- and seem to be done as an afterthought. The Paranoid quad
features Ozzy's voice coming from each of 4 speakers during the same
song, each successive lyric line. "oh gee" that makes it worth
it...NOT. That's a GIMMICK.

The ideal listening room would only have 3 walls, and the wall behind
the listener removed, so the sound passes your head and keeps right on
going without bouncing off anything. Take an 8-track deck and 2
speakers outside and point them away from your house about 4 feet
apart, and sit between the 2 speakers about 3 feet away. You'll hear a
miniature soundstage like the actual concert in front of you. Quad is
good for one thing- a "look what once was" oddity collectible- much
like 78rpm records and Victrolas.

But even 78 rpm mono shellac records sound better than the best quad
tape mix. To take it a step further, what if you had a 16 track
studio reel with 16 speakers- one for each track. It would sound like
****.

(DOGGIE104) wrote in message ...
The tapes arrived. American versions of Blsck Sabbath Paranoid (quad) and Jimi
Hendrix Experience Are You Experienced? Very cool. Eagle eyes award to Paul;
that WAS a Canadian quad of Chicago 2 (tape 2). BUT...I also got a Canadian
quad of Ten Years After A Space In Time. Been on the backburner of my want
list for a while.
I'll probably auction off the rest of them soon. regards, ron

A Space In Time is one of the better quads out there.

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there are so many flaws in this logic I don't know where to begin.
I shouldn't even bother to try, but what the hell

decent score? update

Group: alt.collecting.8-track-tapes Date: Sun, May 16, 2004, 8:13am
(EDT-3) From: (trippin2-8track)
If you're into obsessively hoarding oddball tapes for lack of more
productive pursuits, I guess that's a good find.
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how kindly insulting of you.



If you're into creating a realistic soundstage and imaging from an audio
playback system, quad is about the worst thing you could possibly do to
a recording. With efficient speakers and a tube amp, you don't need
quad.
Quad is anti-fidelity and anti-realistic.
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*s******* yeah, if I walked into a studio and a rock band of 4 were
playing, with, say, each member in the corner, and I were to stand in
the middle and groove...I mean, how low-fi and unreal could you get? LOL
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In professional listening rooms dedicated to music playback, much is
done to ELIMINATE the echo effects and reflected sound coming from
behind the listener. They actually build diffusers from wood and
insulation and bolt them to the walls, just to absorb and remove the
sounds that quad actually creates. Much like those highway sound
barriers.
I've listened to a few quads myself and the mixes on most were downright
laughable, they are only as good as the sound engineer who mixed them-
and seem to be done as an afterthought. The Paranoid quad features
Ozzy's voice coming from each of 4 speakers during the same song, each
successive lyric line. "oh gee" that makes it worth it...NOT. That's a
GIMMICK.
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rule no.1:
EVERYTHING IS A GIMMICK.
stereo, mono, quad, 5.1.
anyway, I love the Sabbath quad. Love the sound of ozzy on the title
track. He may be coming out of all 4 speakers, but not at once
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The ideal listening room would only have 3 walls, and the wall behind
the listener removed, so the sound passes your head and keeps right on
going without bouncing off anything.
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That sounds very practicle and sensible!
I'll knock out that 4th wall tomorrow and let the neighborhood jam!
//

Take an 8-track deck and 2 speakers outside and point them away from
your house about 4 feet apart, and sit between the 2 speakers about 3
feet away. You'll hear a miniature soundstage like the actual concert in
front of you.
////

You need to understand something very basic:
Rock albums -very rarely- are designed to re-create a live concert
experience. The whole point of a studio recording's overdubs is to
create something not possible in real-time. In the case of prog or
psychedelic music, the last thing anyone is going for is trying to
re-create the sound of a concert. Sounds on rock records are often
panned left to right. What, do you think the guitar
player/singer/pianist/whatever is running across the room? The idea of
artistic musical soundstage is that anything can come from anywhere,
your hearing is 360* so there is nothing wrong with music being
reproduced in 360*. Sound placement can be anything the artist wants it
to be and it doesn't have to have anything to do with sounding like a
live band on a stage.
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Quad is good for one thing- a "look what once was" oddity collectible-
much like 78rpm records and Victrolas.
////

Bull****. Quad mixes are now being re-released in high resolution
DTS/DVD-A/SACD formats.
It's the wave of the FUTURE.
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But even 78 rpm mono shellac records sound better than the best quad
tape mix. To take it a step further, what if you had a 16 track studio
reel with 16 speakers- one for each track. It would sound like ****.
//

This is a joke, right?
You realize how silly this sounds?
If each track is given it's own instrument/sound and is reproduced by
its own individual speaker, it -can't help- but sound better because the
speaker is not competing to produce other instrumental sounds! It's why
multiple overdubs on a track will bury the information! This is only
good if you're Phil Spector )
Mono 78s however can sound very good for what they are, but they are in
no way superior or even close to high grade quad sound.
But then again, of course all this was wasted on you....but that's ok,
I'm sure somebody else may be reading and this won't be wasted on them

oops..noticed I mispelled 'practical'

(The Poodlebutt) wrote in message . com...
(DOGGIE104) wrote in message ...
The tapes arrived. American versions of Blsck Sabbath Paranoid (quad) and Jimi
Hendrix Experience Are You Experienced? Very cool. Eagle eyes award to Paul;
that WAS a Canadian quad of Chicago 2 (tape 2). BUT...I also got a Canadian
quad of Ten Years After A Space In Time. Been on the backburner of my want
list for a while.
I'll probably auction off the rest of them soon. regards, ron

A Space In Time is one of the better quads out there.


I thought you were into the gods of country ??