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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:25 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: Give 'stonemirror' aka David Schlesinger a little rope and he will prove magnificently (as he has above) that he is a stalker, a criminal harasser, a liar and a sociopathic scumbag. All of this material will be soon brought to the attention of his current employer. He started this thread claiming he knew Seattle Bookseller only through a single email concerning a specific book for sale. Now he pours forth his vicious stalker diatribe, on tap as it were. And very predictably. There is no better and final proof that this entire thread was started with a lie made by a psychopathic stalker, not any legitimate customer of books. He had no business starting such a thread here in the first place. It is totally and completely off topic. Gee, that was really worth posting twice, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M. ARSUPIAL... |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
"seattle_bookseller" wrote in message oups.com... Scot, does anyone moderate this NG? I'm not "Scot", nor do I play him on TV, but "No." This is a Usenet group, and although Google makes it appear to need a subscription, pretty much any party with a newsreader can get to it and say pretty much anything he/she/it wants. I'm pretty sure that if this group had been moderated, the whole thread would have been canned about the third time you posted the substantially identical message to each respondent of the original posting. I have no opinion on who is "right" or "wrong" and absolutely zero interest in following anybody's links and reading whatever drivel preceded this exchange. Nevertheless, the whole thing seems to provide some amusement to a few old regulars, so what the heck. Alice -- Book collecting terms illustrated. Used and out of print books for sale. http://www.mywingsbooks.com/ |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
Just keep coughing up more evidence of your stalking behavior, David
Schlesinger of ACCESS Linux. It is piling up in a nice, fat report for the police and for your current employer. http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8...at-linuxworld/ Windowing system? cervezas @ 4/4/2006 3:07:48 PM # With regard to X Windows they're still not saying for now, as of recent conversations I've had with David Schlesinger. David Beers Pikesoft Mobile Computing Software Everywhere blog www.pikesoft.com/blog Informa Open Source in Mobile Conference Nov. 7-8, Amsterdam, the Netherlands PalmSource is a sponsor and will be exhibiting ALP. Mike Kelley, Senior Vice President of Engineering, is speaking. David ("Lefty") Schlesinger, Director of Open Source Technologies, will be participating on a panel. PalmSource clarifies our coverage of Palm OS and ALP By David Gewirtz Over the past few weeks, we've been covering the changes in the Palm OS and its apparent eventual migration into something called ALP. As is always the case when trying to understand something new and relatively poorly documented, we got some of our facts wrong. Fortunately, we've gotten some excellent clarification on ALP from two PalmSource executives who would know: Maureen O'Connell, Senior Director, Corporate Communications and David "Lefty" Schlesinger, Director, Core Tools and Technologies. "It's not particularly our intention that MAX 'inherit much of the traditional look and feel of the Palm OS'..." These two comments provide some excellent clues about what we might expect in the future from PalmSource. Clarications from Maureen O'Connell, Senior Director, Corporate Communications In your recently published article, "The future of the Palm platform: rosy or uncertain," you claimed it had been confirmed that the ACCESS Linux Platform is based "on Wind River's Platform For Consumer Devices, Linux Edition." I would like to take this opportunity to clarify that the ACCESS Linux Platform, recently announced by ACCESS Co., Ltd., and its wholly-owned subsidiary, PalmSource, has been designed to be kernel agnostic and does not rely on unique features of any specific Linux distribution. It is based on a standard version 2.6.12 (and above) kernel. http://www.computingunplugged.com/is...001734001.html |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:36 am, "my-wings" wrote:
"seattle_bookseller" wrote in message oups.com... Scot, does anyone moderate this NG? I'm not "Scot", nor do I play him on TV, but "No." This is a Usenet group, and although Google makes it appear to need a subscription, pretty much any party with a newsreader can get to it and say pretty much anything he/she/it wants. I'm pretty sure that if this group had been moderated, the whole thread would have been canned about the third time you posted the substantially identical message to each respondent of the original posting. I have no opinion on who is "right" or "wrong" and absolutely zero interest in following anybody's links and reading whatever drivel preceded this exchange. Nevertheless, the whole thing seems to provide some amusement to a few old regulars, so what the heck. Alice -- Book collecting terms illustrated. Used and out of print books for sale.http://www.mywingsbooks.com/ You aren't the one being slandered here. I am. |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Feb 10, 8:40 am, "my-wings" wrote:
"Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)" wrote in ooglegroups.com... I own a pristine copy of a volume titled "The Picatrix", published by Ourobouros Press in 2001 in a limited edition of 1000 copies (mine is #331). I'm doing an appraisal of the current value of this book, so I searched Bookfinder to see what was listed there. There are several copies listed, ranging in price from a low of $204 to a high of over $500 (the latter from a Seattle brick and mortar store for a copy with a scuff on the cover!) One of the outliers, pricing a copy at $430, was an outfit called "seattle_bookseller". I wrote and asked why the price was so high, and got an amazingly vituperative and abusive response, stating that this "WAS HOW THE RARE BOOK BUSINESS WORKED" and that I "NEED A COURSE IN REMEDIAL ECONOMICS" and so on. I was a little surprised at this, but a little research turned up the even more surprising information that this seller is one "Luis M. Arsupial", the same person who was doing business (kinda) as "texas_bookseller" up until about six months ago, and who previously created a huge stink in this group over some questionable transactions! This kind of pricing seems like nothing more than gouging to me. I could buy two copies of this book for what this yoyo is asking for it. I can only assume that he's doing business on a basis of relying on his customers being ignorant and not doing their research. Based on the listings on Bookfinder, I'd estimate the value of this book at $225 to $250, certainly nowhere close to $430. Is this a usual practice? Do a lot of booksellers price their wares in the hopes that their buyers will be too stupid to know that they're being asked to pay twice what a book is worth? (Apparently this "Luis M. Arsupial"--"marsupial"...?--was once known as "Jason Christopher Hughes", a name which turns up a wide variety of odd and amazing postings on USENET...) I remember some sort of hoo-haa over "Luis M. Arsupial" but forget the details, so my comments are general. First: Good for you for doing your homework! The first rule of internet book buying is "buyer beware". Second: While the seller's response to you was over the top and unprofessional, it's hard to know by how much without knowing how your inquiry was phrased. Did you say: "I collect this author and I'd be happy to know if you've got something special I haven't seen before that would make your book worth more than most of the others I've seen"? Or did you say: "You are a price gouger and a thief who preys on the ignorant and unwary. Why are you charging so much?"? Again, I'm ignoring whatever reputation the seller has already acquired. Just talking in general. One possibility is that the seller doesn't even own the book. That happened to me not too long ago. I sold one to another seller who asked me to drop ship the book. When I looked at his web site, he had copied my description lock, stock, and barrel and upped my price by a third. If I had to guess, I'd guess that that's what's really happening with your seattle_bookseller. He finds books worth a few hundred dollars, prices his copy a bit below the top, and plans on buying one of the lower priced books if he has to fulfill the order. What could be better? Somebody else buys and stocks the book, and it doesn't cost him a cent until he gets the order. Again, just speculation, but that's my first guess. All that said, basically used books are worth exactly what some one will pay for them. The internet has been a great leveler as far as pricing, because most people, even with a simple Google search, can do exactly what you did and get the range of prices available. In the "old days", books moved much differently. Sellers had shops, and priced for their geographic areas and their specialty. A book that was priced at $12 in one shop could bring $50 or $200 when moved to a dealer who had the right clients for it. Sales from dealer to dealer were a much bigger part of the trade. It was understood that part of the value a dealer added to a book was his knowledge of the collecting area and years of cultivating the kind of customers who would want that kind of book. So...your seller may indeed be a sleaze-bag. I would certainly never buy from him based on the unprofessional response he made to you. But if he's got the book and he wants to list it at $400+ when most copies are in the $200-range, so what? Maybe his policy is to never revise a listing, and he's just waiting for the market to catch up with him! You don't have to buy the book, and he doesn't have to justify his price to you, unless he's got a really good story that truly makes the book worth what he's charging. Not that I think it's necessarily right for a dealer to charge any price at all. I've seen some things that would simply embarrass me to be involved with. There was an auction on eBay two weeks ago where a seller paired two common $25 books, hyped the illustrator and sold the pair for over $200. And a copycat did the same thing with the same titles and netted over $100. Again, nobody made any of the customers bid on the auctions, and the books were started at a very reasonable price, but seeing the final values, I just cringed. I would hate to be either of those sellers when their customers found out they could have gotten the same books for a quarter or half the price on amazon. And that, my friend, is why serious collectors often support specific sellers over a period of years, even if it means they pay a small premium in the pricing over what the same titles in the same condition would bring in other venues. They do it because they know they can trust the seller to accurately describe the books, to stand behind their products, and to price fairly, even if not at the cheapest price. Alice -- Book collecting terms illustrated. Occasional books for sale.http://www.mywingsbooks.com/ Just keep coughing up more evidence of your stalking behavior, David Schlesinger of ACCESS Linux. It is piling up in a nice, fat report for the police and for your current employer. http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8...atform-shown-a... Windowing system? cervezas @ 4/4/2006 3:07:48 PM # With regard to X Windows they're still not saying for now, as of recent conversations I've had with David Schlesinger. David Beers Pikesoft Mobile Computing Software Everywhere blog www.pikesoft.com/blog Informa Open Source in Mobile Conference Nov. 7-8, Amsterdam, the Netherlands PalmSource is a sponsor and will be exhibiting ALP. Mike Kelley, Senior Vice President of Engineering, is speaking. David ("Lefty") Schlesinger, Director of Open Source Technologies, will be participating on a panel. PalmSource clarifies our coverage of Palm OS and ALP By David Gewirtz Over the past few weeks, we've been covering the changes in the Palm OS and its apparent eventual migration into something called ALP. As is always the case when trying to understand something new and relatively poorly documented, we got some of our facts wrong. Fortunately, we've gotten some excellent clarification on ALP from two PalmSource executives who would know: Maureen O'Connell, Senior Director, Corporate Communications and David "Lefty" Schlesinger, Director, Core Tools and Technologies. "It's not particularly our intention that MAX 'inherit much of the traditional look and feel of the Palm OS'..." These two comments provide some excellent clues about what we might expect in the future from PalmSource. Clarications from Maureen O'Connell, Senior Director, Corporate Communications In your recently published article, "The future of the Palm platform: rosy or uncertain," you claimed it had been confirmed that the ACCESS Linux Platform is based "on Wind River's Platform For Consumer Devices, Linux Edition." I would like to take this opportunity to clarify that the ACCESS Linux Platform, recently announced by ACCESS Co., Ltd., and its wholly-owned subsidiary, PalmSource, has been designed to be kernel agnostic and does not rely on unique features of any specific Linux distribution. It is based on a standard version 2.6.12 (and above) kernel. http://www.computingunplugged.com/is...001734001.html |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:43 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: You aren't the one being slandered here. I am. The only one slandering you here is yourself, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M. ARSUPIAL. All I did was relate an exchange you and I had over your gross overpricing of that copy of the Picatrix that you _still_ can't unload at $425. I don't think it's worth more than $300. How does that "slander" you? People have accurately related your dismal record on Amazon. Those are facts anyone can check. How does that "slander" you? Tell you what, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M. ARSUPIAL: if you feel that you're being slandered by me, since you have such detailed information, you get ahold of your attorney and go right ahead and file suit against me. Whaddaya say? |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:55 am, "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)"
wrote: On Mar 3, 10:43 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: You aren't the one being slandered here. I am. The only one slandering you here is yourself, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M. ARSUPIAL. All I did was relate an exchange you and I had over your gross overpricing of that copy of the Picatrix that you _still_ can't unload at $425. I don't think it's worth more than $300. How does that "slander" you? People have accurately related your dismal record on Amazon. Those are facts anyone can check. How does that "slander" you? Tell you what, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M. ARSUPIAL: if you feel that you're being slandered by me, since you have such detailed information, you get ahold of your attorney and go right ahead and file suit against me. Whaddaya say? Seattle Bookseller never had any communication with you in any form regarding ANY book at any time. And you have zero evidence to back your claim. Post the email, stalker. Link to it, stalker. You can't, because your mission here was to slander a business with lies. Well, you have been exposed as the liar now. And not by any means for the first time. |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:45 am, "seattle_bookseller"
wrote: It is piling up in a nice, fat report for the police and for your current employer. I've _pleaded_ for you to call the cops. I've double-dog _dared_ you to. So far, you seem to be taking your sweet time about it. Whenever they get here, I'll be more than happy to discuss your attempts at identity theft, fraud and extortion with them and provide them with the supporting evidence. As far as my employer goes, they've been well aware of you since the _last_ time you attempted (with your usual total lack of success) to damage my professional reputation over a year ago. I've got the evidence to tie you to that as well, and as soon as you call my employer, you will find yourself speaking to someone in our Legal department with whom I predict you will have an interesting discussion, but one quite unsatisfying to you. So, have at it, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M, ARSUPIAL. Knock yourself out. |
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Unscrupulous Dealers and Price Gouging in Seattle?
On Mar 3, 10:27 am, "Stone Mirror (the Great and Terrible)"
wrote: On Mar 3, 10:16 am, "seattle_bookseller" wrote: Scot, does anyone moderate this NG? No LJ Abuse team to go whimpering to here, I'm afraid, JASON CHRISTOPHER HUGHES aka LUIS M/ ARSUPIAL. The magic of the Internet. Hey, didja hear that they revealed some serious deficiencies and exploits around Onion Routers? Think you should be worrying...? This has become a police matter at this point. You are a stalker, David Schlesinger. |
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