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Counterfeiting in the 19th Century
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Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! |
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Counterfeiting in the 19th Century
On Jul 21, 7:53�pm, wrote:
Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? �Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? �Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. Counterfeits marked with a "X" may have been stamped by banks or merchants. Bob Leonard |
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Counterfeiting in the 19th Century
Bob wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:53?pm, wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? ?Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? ?Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. Counterfeits marked with a "X" may have been stamped by banks or merchants. Just as a side note (pun intended) I have in my possession (may the powers forgive me) a counterfeit $5 FRN that had been thoroughly defaced with one of those counterfeit detection pens. I was looking through my bill collection recently, and discovered that after a year or so every trace of the "ink" has completely faded away. Collectors of notes might want to keep that in mind. |
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Counterfeiting in the 19th Century
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, Bob wrote: On Jul 21, 7:53Ôø‡pm, wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? Ôø‡Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? Ôø‡Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. I believe that they keep at least a few as a reference collection, so that they can determine if a newly-found fake is just leftover from an old source or something new. |
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"Slime Lowlife" wrote in message ... In article , Bob wrote: On Jul 21, 7:53Ôø?pm, wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? Ôø?Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? Ôø?Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. I believe that they keep at least a few as a reference collection, so that they can determine if a newly-found fake is just leftover from an old source or something new. Back in the 1960s on a school tour of the FBI building (yes, FBI, not Secret Service) they had a room full of display cases with examples of counterfeit money. Most of it was bills but they had coins too. So it's reasonable to think that somewhere they keep specimens for reference comparisons and PR use. Additional copies above and beyond those needs probably are destroyed. At least I hope they are - why waste tax dollars guarding junk? |
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Counterfeiting in the 19th Century
"John Mazor" wrote in message news:Yo9ik.580$5Q.169@trnddc06... "Slime Lowlife" wrote in message ... In article , Bob wrote: On Jul 21, 7:53Ôø?pm, wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? Ôø?Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? Ôø?Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. I believe that they keep at least a few as a reference collection, so that they can determine if a newly-found fake is just leftover from an old source or something new. Back in the 1960s on a school tour of the FBI building (yes, FBI, not Secret Service) they had a room full of display cases with examples of counterfeit money. Most of it was bills but they had coins too. So it's reasonable to think that somewhere they keep specimens for reference comparisons and PR use. Additional copies above and beyond those needs probably are destroyed. At least I hope they are - why waste tax dollars guarding junk? Back in the 1960's I paid more attention to the "Tommy gun show" they staged in the basement at the end of each tour. Sure, I was a coin collector at the time, but hey............ |
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... "John Mazor" wrote in message news:Yo9ik.580$5Q.169@trnddc06... "Slime Lowlife" wrote in message ... In article , Bob wrote: On Jul 21, 7:53Ôø?pm, wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what were done to the coins that were collected by the secret service? Ôø?Has anyone heard of any coins (American or not) only being counter stamped with an "X"? Ôø?Any info/websites/book ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! To the best of my knowledge they were all destroyed. The details are given in the Annual Reports of the Director of the Secret Service, under items seized. These reports are not online (so far as I know, though Google may have randomly digitized some), but the National Archives and some major university libraries have them. I believe that they keep at least a few as a reference collection, so that they can determine if a newly-found fake is just leftover from an old source or something new. Back in the 1960s on a school tour of the FBI building (yes, FBI, not Secret Service) they had a room full of display cases with examples of counterfeit money. Most of it was bills but they had coins too. So it's reasonable to think that somewhere they keep specimens for reference comparisons and PR use. Additional copies above and beyond those needs probably are destroyed. At least I hope they are - why waste tax dollars guarding junk? Back in the 1960's I paid more attention to the "Tommy gun show" they staged in the basement at the end of each tour. Sure, I was a coin collector at the time, but hey............ I was going to say the same thing (including being a collector then), but I already tend to go off on too many tangents. It was far and away the coolest part of the trip. Somewhere I may still have one of the spent .45 casings they handed out at the end. I don't know about the girls in my class but the Fibbies definitely knew how to connect with us young Y-chromosome types. As the one who wrote our class thank you letter, I got and still have the reply that Hoover sent back. It undoubtedly was signed with an autopen by his public affairs staff but we all were duly impressed when it came in the mail. |
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