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PCGS ain't so perfect after all..
The PCGS Price Guide is currently showing 2004 20 coin Mint sets at
$1475.00. Oops. Look fast before they fix it. Or don't, I don't care. .. Hmm.. if they can make a blunder like that, then Shirley they blundered on grading all my Modern commems as MS69s. Should all be MS70s. Harv ("Conclusion - they think he is insane, and yet, he out-ranks them." - Firesign Theatre..) .. |
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PCGS ain't so perfect after all..
Harv wrote: The PCGS Price Guide is currently showing 2004 20 coin Mint sets at $1475.00. Oops. Look fast before they fix it. Or don't, I don't care. .. Hmm.. if they can make a blunder like that, then Shirley they blundered on grading all my Modern commems as MS69s. Should all be MS70s. Harv I don't know whazzup with PCGS. I, too, collect modern commems, and for some years I've been sending them in, twenty at a time, and invariably getting them back as MS/PF 69s.. Next to last order, I sent 'em in and 3 came back as MS-68! I thought maybe they tightened the standards. Then I sent 10 Franklins in and 5 of them came back MS/PF 70! I've sent in hundreds of coins, and never got a 70 before. Regards, Tom |
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"winwin" both lamented and rejoiced when he stated:
I don't know whazzup with PCGS. I, too, collect modern commems, and for some years I've been sending them in, twenty at a time, and invariably getting them back as MS/PF 69s.. Next to last order, I sent 'em in and 3 came back as MS-68! I thought maybe they tightened the standards. Then I sent 10 Franklins in and 5 of them came back MS/PF 70! I've sent in hundreds of coins, and never got a 70 before. Wow, way to go Tom! A handful of 70s beats a handful of Aces, doesn't it? Wait! Maybe I've gotten my games mixed up. :-) But in either case, you gotta know when to hold 'em... Amistad 'those big numbers could put a man on shoutin' ground!' |
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winwin wrote:
.... Then I sent 10 Franklins in and 5 of them came back MS/PF 70! I've sent in hundreds of coins, and never got a 70 before. MS/PF 70 in a PCGS holder is a rare thing indeed. Congratulations! Good fortune must have been smiling down on you that day. Anita |
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I hope it's a mistake. I sold some sets a couple of weeks ago for $62 each.
I'll be kicking myself if I could have gotten an extra $1413 apiece. -- Richard Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed" -- the ninth beatitude. Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet "Harv" wrote in message ... The PCGS Price Guide is currently showing 2004 20 coin Mint sets at $1475.00. Oops. Look fast before they fix it. Or don't, I don't care. .. Hmm.. if they can make a blunder like that, then Shirley they blundered on grading all my Modern commems as MS69s. Should all be MS70s. Harv ("Conclusion - they think he is insane, and yet, he out-ranks them." - Firesign Theatre..) .. |
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"Richard L. Hall" wrote in message ... I hope it's a mistake. I sold some sets a couple of weeks ago for $62 each. I'll be kicking myself if I could have gotten an extra $1413 apiece. Yeah, it's obviously a mistake since 2004 Mint sets are listed there twice - once at $80 and right below that at $1475. But it's kinda funny. There's no reason in the world why they would legitimately put a $1475 value on 2004 Mint sets unless there is some special error variety of 2004 Mint sets I don't know about. I do have a 2005 Mint set that came straight from The Mint that has two Calif. quarters in two pockets of one of the cello packs and is missing one of the other State quarters. I know it's just a packaging error, but I've been tempted to put it on eBay just to see what I could get for it. Harv |
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PCGS ain't so perfect after all..
"Harv" wrote in message ... "Richard L. Hall" wrote in message ... I hope it's a mistake. I sold some sets a couple of weeks ago for $62 each. I'll be kicking myself if I could have gotten an extra $1413 apiece. Yeah, it's obviously a mistake since 2004 Mint sets are listed there twice - once at $80 and right below that at $1475. But it's kinda funny. There's no reason in the world why they would legitimately put a $1475 value on 2004 Mint sets unless there is some special error variety of 2004 Mint sets I don't know about. I do have a 2005 Mint set that came straight from The Mint that has two Calif. quarters in two pockets of one of the cello packs and is missing one of the other State quarters. I know it's just a packaging error, but I've been tempted to put it on eBay just to see what I could get for it. Gee! I've been ordering mint and proof sets from the mint since 1970 or so and I've never gotten one of those packaging errors, and none of the missing S sets or the Type 2 or Type 1 sets from the right years.. I guess I just don't live right. Good luck with the set on Ebay. I've yet to sell anything on Ebay and have only bought a few things, usually coins from 1943 (my birth year). I have a rating of 12 or so and I've been a member since 2000 or so. Maybe I'll have to look into it. I'm in a "now, where did I get that?" mode. So selling things might be in the offing. Have fun! -- Richard My coin Links: http://coins.richlh.com/Coins/MyCoinLinks.htm |
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"Richard L. Hall" wrote in message ... Gee! I've been ordering mint and proof sets from the mint since 1970 or so and I've never gotten one of those packaging errors, and none of the missing S sets or the Type 2 or Type 1 sets from the right years.. I guess I just don't live right. As far as I can recall, this is the first packaging error type anything I've ever gotten from The Mint. But it's a far cry from those "No S" Proof sets, some of which are worth thousands of dollars. I don't know if I'll eBay this mis-packaged Mint set or not. I don't have a clue what someone might pay for it. Maybe double issue price. Maybe ten times issue price. Maybe under issue price. Who knows, but I certainly would't start it at a dollar and just wait to see what happens. With something like this, with no real established price for it, I'd start it much higher, if I decide to sell it. I've been buying and selling on eBay since 1998 and have gotten some very surprising money for many things I've sold. But I NEVER start anything at a dollar. There's a distinct possiblity that eBay could go down just as my auction is closing shutting out the snipers and I'd end up actually having to sell something valuable for peanuts. This hapened to me once a few years ago and I lost many hundreds of dollars on some rare die-cast toy catalogs that people were furiously bidding on when eBay went down and stayed down for two hours. Yeah I got my fees back, but I got reamed on the selling prices. I got $30, $40, $50 each for the catalogs and one bidder said he was set to punch in multi-hundred dollar bids on all of them when eBay crashed. And that's why I'll never start any auction at a buck. Ever. Ask Ira if he'd start an 1856 MS65 Red Flyer at a dollar. .. certainly not an exact comparison, but it's the same principle. Althogh it's gotten better over the years, eBay simply isn't crash-proof and being that way, a seller takes a huge risk starting an expensive or potentially expensive item at a lowball price. Harv |
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"Harv" wrote in message ... "Richard L. Hall" wrote in message ... Gee! I've been ordering mint and proof sets from the mint since 1970 or so and I've never gotten one of those packaging errors, and none of the missing S sets or the Type 2 or Type 1 sets from the right years.. I guess I just don't live right. As far as I can recall, this is the first packaging error type anything I've ever gotten from The Mint. But it's a far cry from those "No S" Proof sets, some of which are worth thousands of dollars. I don't know if I'll eBay this mis-packaged Mint set or not. I don't have a clue what someone might pay for it. Maybe double issue price. Maybe ten times issue price. Maybe under issue price. Who knows, but I certainly would't start it at a dollar and just wait to see what happens. With something like this, with no real established price for it, I'd start it much higher, if I decide to sell it. I've been buying and selling on eBay since 1998 and have gotten some very surprising money for many things I've sold. But I NEVER start anything at a dollar. There's a distinct possiblity that eBay could go down just as my auction is closing shutting out the snipers and I'd end up actually having to sell something valuable for peanuts. This hapened to me once a few years ago and I lost many hundreds of dollars on some rare die-cast toy catalogs that people were furiously bidding on when eBay went down and stayed down for two hours. Yeah I got my fees back, but I got reamed on the selling prices. I got $30, $40, $50 each for the catalogs and one bidder said he was set to punch in multi-hundred dollar bids on all of them when eBay crashed. And that's why I'll never start any auction at a buck. Ever. I'll remember that if I ever try to sell something on Ebay. Ask Ira if he'd start an 1856 MS65 Red Flyer at a dollar. .. certainly not an exact comparison, but it's the same principle. Althogh it's gotten better over the years, eBay simply isn't crash-proof and being that way, a seller takes a huge risk starting an expensive or potentially expensive item at a lowball price. Harv |
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PCGS ain't so perfect after all..
On Fri, 19 May 2006 16:13:28 -0400, Richard L. Hall wrote:
"Harv" wrote in message ... I've been buying and selling on eBay since 1998 and have gotten some very surprising money for many things I've sold. But I NEVER start anything at a dollar. There's a distinct possiblity that eBay could go down just as my auction is closing shutting out the snipers and I'd end up actually having to sell something valuable for peanuts. I'll remember that if I ever try to sell something on Ebay. Hm. I'm not sure I'd be concerned about that these days. Let's put it a bit more strongly. I am not concerned about that, and just listed that 21-D walker starting at $0.99 - why? Why not. If you have something of limited demand, that you'll get one or two bids on, start the bidding at what you'd settle for if you only get one bid. If it's something that historically gets a dozen or more bids, start it low to build some momentum is my thinking. As far as downtime - I know some about the internals that were changed after the little incident I think he's referring to. And, if they _were_ to go down (because I know, even the best redundantly-designed system can fail), I'd end the auction of a high-value piece and re-spin it once they get their stuff together. |
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