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Russia - Michel vs Scott
Golly, I've bumped into a real conumdrum - hope somebody here can help
me. I'm a Scott person in the U.S. trying to buy some Russian issues from a Michel person in Australia. Up here, Down there - different catalogs - Aw Criminy! Anyway, I have a set of Russian issues from May 27th, 1957. They a 1936 - 10k 1937 - 20k 1938 - 25k 1939 - 40k 1940 - 1r That same issue according to my Michel is: 1945 - 10k 1946 - 25k 1947 - 40k 1948 - 40k 1949 - 1R Michel indicates no 20k and indicates two 40k. Scott says that 1936, 1937 and 1940 exist imperf. Michel seems to indicate that there are A & B varieties of all the 5 issues, but not exactly that any are imperf. I understand that Michel is much more thorough than Scott - but this just doesn't make any sense to me. Can anybody help dig me out of this hole? I've found most of these problems are simply because I don't quite understand or didn't read it right - but I've looked at this long and hard and don't think it's me - - but maybe! Handshakes, Dakota |
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Dakta, can you wait?
It's late here (02:17), and I will look into it tomorrow. I have both catalogues and might be abe to help out. It's you OK, but you need a little help -- see you tomorrow :-) Mette Dakota wrote in message om... Golly, I've bumped into a real conumdrum - hope somebody here can help me. I'm a Scott person in the U.S. trying to buy some Russian issues from a Michel person in Australia. Up here, Down there - different catalogs - Aw Criminy! Anyway, I have a set of Russian issues from May 27th, 1957. They a 1936 - 10k 1937 - 20k 1938 - 25k 1939 - 40k 1940 - 1r That same issue according to my Michel is: 1945 - 10k 1946 - 25k 1947 - 40k 1948 - 40k 1949 - 1R Michel indicates no 20k and indicates two 40k. Scott says that 1936, 1937 and 1940 exist imperf. Michel seems to indicate that there are A & B varieties of all the 5 issues, but not exactly that any are imperf. I understand that Michel is much more thorough than Scott - but this just doesn't make any sense to me. Can anybody help dig me out of this hole? I've found most of these problems are simply because I don't quite understand or didn't read it right - but I've looked at this long and hard and don't think it's me - - but maybe! Handshakes, Dakota |
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12/27/2003 5:20 PM
Dakta, can you wait? It's late here (02:17), and I will look into it tomorrow. I have both catalogues and might be abe to help out. It's you OK, but you need a little help -- see you tomorrow :-) Mette Mette, We've all noticed that you continue to say you can't do this or that, because it's late in Denmark. That just doesn't wash, you know. This is a sophisticated group of collectors, and we know that it's *always* later in Denmark than in North America! You'll have to come up with another reason! :^) (I suppose you could also argue that you Danes are always ahead of us North Americans, and perhaps with justification!) boB |
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Bob Ingraham wrote in message
... Mette, We've all noticed that you continue to say you can't do this or that, because it's late in Denmark. That just doesn't wash, you know. This is a sophisticated group of collectors, and we know that it's *always* later in Denmark than in North America! You'll have to come up with another reason! :^) (I suppose you could also argue that you Danes are always ahead of us North Americans, and perhaps with justification!) Bob, in that case this group would hardly hear from me again ever, as I most often have way too many things to do during daylight hours! However, I saw that Didier Cuidet has answered Dakota's question satisfactorily, so there is no need for me to repeat his excellent answer ;-) Ettem |
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Le Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:28:19 +0100, dans rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,
"Mette" a écrit : [Snip] Ettem Vous en êtes toute retournée. (It make you upside down) -- DC |
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Didier Cuidet wrote in message
... Le Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:28:19 +0100, dans rec.collecting.stamps.discuss, "Mette" a écrit : [Snip] Ettem Vous en êtes toute retournée. (It make you upside down) Done deliberately -- to match boB's signature :-) Mette |
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Didier:
It seems to be the set issued for the 6th international youth and students festival. According to Yvert 2003 issue : 1929 10 k, violet, green and yellow 1930 20 k, olive-green, lilac and blue-violet 1931 25 k, violet, green and yellow 1932 40 k, bluish green, pink and bistre 1933 1 r, multicolor Scott says that 1936, 1937 and 1940 exist imperf. Yvert says the same. Michel seems to indicate that there are A & B varieties of all the 5 issues, but not exactly that any are imperf. I understand that Michel is much more thorough than Scott - but this just doesn't make any sense to me. Yvert indicates two perforations : 12 × 12.5, and 12.5. Maybe some stamps exist with one perforation, and the remaining with the other perforation, or all the stamps exist with the two perforations. Yes, My 1996 Y&T says the same - but I was asking about Michel (1987/88). I have a Russian Turkalenko catalog - but I do not read Cyrillic. Y&T is certainly excellent for France and I do not mean to be negative toward it - but I find Dallay more explanatory. Scott is the ultimate for U.S. On the other hand,. Michel is (to my mind anyway) usually far more precise (on Russian issues) than Scott or Y&T. I was/am confused about what Michel was trying to indicate. Thanks anyway and of course, Handshakes, Dakota |
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Dakota,
Concerning the face values there is a discrepancy between Scott and Michel, such as described by you. My Michel (2000/2001) indicates that M #1945 (Scott # 1936), M #1948 (Scott # 1939), and M #1949 (Scott # 1940) exist imperf. I hope this is of some help. Mette Dakota wrote in message om... Golly, I've bumped into a real conumdrum - hope somebody here can help me. I'm a Scott person in the U.S. trying to buy some Russian issues from a Michel person in Australia. Up here, Down there - different catalogs - Aw Criminy! Anyway, I have a set of Russian issues from May 27th, 1957. They a 1936 - 10k 1937 - 20k 1938 - 25k 1939 - 40k 1940 - 1r That same issue according to my Michel is: 1945 - 10k 1946 - 25k 1947 - 40k 1948 - 40k 1949 - 1R Michel indicates no 20k and indicates two 40k. Scott says that 1936, 1937 and 1940 exist imperf. Michel seems to indicate that there are A & B varieties of all the 5 issues, but not exactly that any are imperf. I understand that Michel is much more thorough than Scott - but this just doesn't make any sense to me. Can anybody help dig me out of this hole? I've found most of these problems are simply because I don't quite understand or didn't read it right - but I've looked at this long and hard and don't think it's me - - but maybe! Handshakes, Dakota |
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"Dakota" wrote in message
om... Didier: Yes, My 1996 Y&T says the same - but I was asking about Michel (1987/88). I have a Russian Turkalenko catalog - but I do not read Cyrillic. snip I was/am confused about what Michel was trying to indicate. Thanks anyway and of course, Handshakes, Dakota Dakota, If you send me a scan of the relevant page from the Russian catalogue, I could translate what interests you. Victor Manta --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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