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When was the telescope invented?
Yes, and Colombus did not discover America, it was this fellow. http://cjoint.com/data/hwmA6jq7Et.htm how often do you see him on a stamp. "Peter Baumann" That's right, the inventor is said to be a Hans Lippershey, who lived in Middelburg, Netherlands. However, there are pictures of a telescope in the »Historica scholastica«, which is dated before 1241. Peter -- No Gates - no Bill! |
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When was the telescope invented?
rodney wrote:
Yes, and Colombus did not discover America, it was this fellow. http://cjoint.com/data/hwmA6jq7Et.htm how often do you see him on a stamp. I vote for Leif Eiriksson! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson http://www.humanities.uci.edu/mclark...hive/stamp.JPG Newfoundland can be a wild, miserable place if you end up in the wrong part of it - even the Vikings couldn't stand it and had to leave. Ryan |
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When was the telescope invented?
On Jul 22, 9:47*am, Ryan Davenport wrote:
* * *Newfoundland can be a wild, miserable place if you end up in the wrong part of it - even the Vikings couldn't stand it and had to leave. * * *Ryan So, Ryan, you have been to those bars in St. Johns, as well. 8*) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/...ae50c7e43a.jpg Blair |
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When was the telescope invented?
"rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote in message
... Yes, and Colombus did not discover America, it was this fellow. http://cjoint.com/data/hwmA6jq7Et.htm how often do you see him on a stamp. Often enough, IMHO. "Vespucci's real historical importance may well rest more in his letters, whether he wrote them all or not, than in his discoveries. From these letters, the European public learned about the newly discovered continent of the Americas for the first time; its existence became generally known throughout Europe within a few years of the letters' publication." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci As for the usage of a telescope by Columbus, which is very improbably, anyway the first who has seen the new continent was the boy who was observing the ocean, being sited on the mast (yep, our Terra was always round . BTW, this doesn't make of him the discoverer of America either. -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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When was the telescope invented?
"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote in message
... Ryan Davenport found these unused words: rodney wrote: Yes, and Colombus did not discover America, it was this fellow. http://cjoint.com/data/hwmA6jq7Et.htm how often do you see him on a stamp. I vote for Leif Eiriksson! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson http://www.humanities.uci.edu/mclark...hive/stamp.JPG Newfoundland can be a wild, miserable place if you end up in the wrong part of it - even the Vikings couldn't stand it and had to leave. Ryan Wrong, neither 'discovered' North America. Oriental/Indian races were here, in residence, long before either european 'civilization'. Great, they have discovered themselves! I just wonder why this civilization didn't inform others about their epochal discovery. BTW, it is somehow strange to call them 'Oriental/Indian races' immediately after the above "self-discovery" assertion. Isn't Native Americans the politically correct name of these local populations? -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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When was the telescope invented?
On Jul 22, 2:01*pm, "Victor Manta" wrote:
Wrong, neither 'discovered' North America. That's the thing about Eurocentricity -- or anything-centricity, including homocentricity -- "Proved that heavier-than-air flight was possible" indeed. It's implicit -- bigots don't even realize it needs to be accounted for. "Discovered the Americans" -- informed the Europeans about the Americas "Invented the printing press" -- provided a printing press for Europe, in a European alphabet "Invented gunpowder" -- etc., etc., etc. along with revolutionary concepts like algebra and the zero, as well as seemingly trivial concepts such as pasta. Even many of the works of the ancient Greeks had to be translated back from the Arabic: European civilization was insufficient to preserve "its own" works. Let's keep in mind, also, how many *populated* island nations in our stamp albums were "discovered" by white explorers, and how well that turned out for the residents. I'm speaking as a white American from European stock, by the way. Great, they have discovered themselves! I just wonder why this civilization didn't inform others about their epochal discovery. Worked so well for them when Europe found out about the continents, didn't it? Genocide, germ warfare, theft, forced displacement, forced religious conversion, breaking of contracts, incursion and environmental destruction making traditional ways of life impossible, just to start. I imagine that native populations wish the secret could have remained so a bit longer, don't you? Bringing it (partially and thankfully) back to stamps: Sitting Bull of the Lakota Sioux -- a man I would argue a true American hero -- was not recognized on a postage stamp until *1986*, and even then in an essentially unusable denomination. -- Joshua H. McGee Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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When was the telescope invented?
On Jul 23, 1:39*am, Joshua McGee wrote:
Bringing it (partially and thankfully) back to stamps: Sitting Bull of the Lakota Sioux -- a man I would argue a true American hero -- was not recognized on a postage stamp until *1986*, and even then in an essentially unusable denomination. "Recognized on a US postage stamp", that is. U.S.-centricity. While there are early depictions of anonymous Native Americans much earlier, does anyone know the first Native American to be honored on a US stamp? -- Joshua H. McGee Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: *http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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virginia dare 1937?
"Joshua McGee" wrote in message ... On Jul 23, 1:39 am, Joshua McGee wrote: Bringing it (partially and thankfully) back to stamps: Sitting Bull of the Lakota Sioux -- a man I would argue a true American hero -- was not recognized on a postage stamp until *1986*, and even then in an essentially unusable denomination. "Recognized on a US postage stamp", that is. U.S.-centricity. While there are early depictions of anonymous Native Americans much earlier, does anyone know the first Native American to be honored on a US stamp? -- Joshua H. McGee Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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Of those who didn't know that the telescope was invented. Was: When was the telescope invented?
"Joshua McGee" wrote in message
... On Jul 22, 2:01 pm, "Victor Manta" wrote: Great, they have discovered themselves! I just wonder why this civilization didn't inform others about their epochal discovery. Worked so well for them when Europe found out about the continents, didn't it? Genocide, germ warfare, theft, forced displacement, forced religious conversion, breaking of contracts, incursion and environmental destruction making traditional ways of life impossible, just to start. I imagine that native populations wish the secret could have remained so a bit longer, don't you? I wouldn't presume that all "native populations wish the secret could have remained so a bit longer". "The deliberate taking of a human life was deemed necessary to sanctify certain ritual occasions, such as the ascendancy to the throne by a new ruler or the dedication of a new building. Naturally the capture of a rival ruler was highly prized, as the sacrifice of the unfortunate individual lent extra importance to the occasion. The usual method of such a sacrifice was decapitation in a public ceremony. Aside from decapitation, the favored method in Postclassic times was a trick acquired from the Mexican cultures to the north, the removal of the heart. Women and children were sacrificed just as often as men The intended victim was stripped and painted blue before being led to a courtyard or temple where the victim would be placed face-up over a convex altar-like stone also painted blue. The arms and legs of the victim were held by specially designated priests while a fourth, called the nacom, would penetrate the victim's chest with a flint knife just below the left breast. Reaching inside the chest cavity, the nacom would pull out the still beating heart and hand it to another priest, who would then smear the blood on that idol to which the sacrifice had been made. If the sacrifice had taken place on the top of a pyramid, the corpse would be thrown to the courtyard below where priests of lower rank would skin the victim except for the hands and feet. The skin would then be worn by the officiating priest who would solemnly dance among the spectators. If the victim had been an especially brave warrior his body might be butchered and eaten by the nobles and other spectators." http://ambergriscaye.com/museum/digit14.html Have a nice day, and enjoy your meal and stamps! -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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When was the telescope invented?
On Jul 23, 2:56*am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
virginia dare 1937? Funny. No, I didn't mean that. I meant "the first North American of aboriginal/Asiatic descent" -- which is what "Native American" now means in the U.S., and which, if you were joking, you may know already. -- Joshua H. McGee Sierra Madre, Los Angeles, California, USA Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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