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Old April 19th 09, 11:18 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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Fascinating Blair.

Every New Year, Japan runs a postcard lottery. Here are the semi
postal stamps for Year of the Ox.
http://whatjapanthinks.com/image09/o...ama-stamps.jpg


I do not understand this one,
how does the Japan system work?
this sheet is similar, is it semi postal or just a ss?
http://cjoint.com/data/evn224lyOF.htm

Thanks



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Old April 19th 09, 11:39 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Vella
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"Blair" wrote in message
...
On Apr 19, 12:42 pm, "Tony Vella" wrote:
"Tony Vella" wrote in message

...



"Peter Baumann" wrote in message
...
rodney schrieb:
You are kidding me!
An 1872 lottery?
Whatever next? 1872 recycling.


I have trouble Rothwasser Moldavia, map etc.
any idea if it is another name for Cserna?


Thanks Peter, thanks Jay for your help.


"Peter Baumann" wrote in message
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rodney schrieb:
"
3. Opening the flaps any idea what type of broadsheet the cover was
made
from?
A press clipping from 60 years later in 1936
http://cjoint.com/data/eus1oK2ErC.htm


what is the gist of the text please?


Hi Rodney,


it is a advertising from a lottery company.
The sheet in your Austria letter ist a result-list from the named
lottery company.


Peter


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Rodney, the first private commercial lottery were established by
Benedetto Gentile in the 15th century.
The first lottery in England was organized at the western portal of St.
Paul's ind London, at Januar the 11th 1569.


So this form of raising funds, is very old.


If I remember correctly, during the reign of one of the Ceasars (not a
clue which one) lottery tickets were sold to raise funds for repairs to
the City of Rome.


Caesars, of course.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canadahttp://www.amedialuz.ca/





Since the dawn of time, Man has believed in Destiny. The term
"lottery" derives from lotto, the Italian word for Destiny, or fate.

The history of lotteries can be traced back to Moses and the Bible. To
award tracts of land west of the River Jordan, Moses used a lottery.
It is also said that the construction of the Great Wall of China was
financed by funds raised by lotteries, and that certain lottery forms
date back to the time of Julius Caesar.

snip

You know, Blair, I never thought it was Julius Caesar who ran a numbers
racket; I was pretty sure it was a later Caesar: Augustus, perhaps. You
learn something new every day. Thanks.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

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Old April 20th 09, 02:21 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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My database has Netherlands SG1225 1976 as a "lottery" stamp
(no image avail)

A lottery bumper sticker
http://cjoint.com/data/evq7Pl4hn7.htm





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Old April 20th 09, 04:26 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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On Apr 19, 6:18*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Fascinating Blair.

Every New Year, Japan runs a postcard lottery. *Here are the semi
postal stamps for Year of the Ox.
http://whatjapanthinks.com/image09/o...ama-stamps.jpg


I do not understand this one,
how does the Japan system work?
this sheet is similar, is it semi postal or just a ss?http://cjoint.com/data/evn224lyOF.htm

Thanks


For example, you buy the postcard which has the imprint of semi postal
stamps (eg 50 + 3 yen and 80 + 3 yen). I assume that the 6 yen covers
cost of the card + some prizes, although I believe some companies
donate prizes as a means of publicity.The card has a serial number on
it.

Next you write your Happy New Year message and mail me the postcard in
mid to late December.
The Japanese Post Office holds it and all are delivered on New Years
Day.

About Jan 15, the winning numbers are published and everyone checks
their cards for a winner.
Prizes are not money, but electronics, manufactured goods, stamps,
etc.

Sending New Year's postcards (nengajo) to relatives, friends,
teachers, classmates, and co-workers is a very important custom in
Japan. Nengajo should be delivered on January 1st. People are happy to
receive and read those nengajo on New Year's Day. Japanese post
offices accept New Year's cards from mid-December, and they deliver
them on New Year's Day. It's a tradition for Japanese people to write
New Year's cards during December. It's best to mail nengajo before
Dec. 25th. Be sure to write 'nenga' under the stamp or use prepaid New
Year's postcards issued by Japan Post Network so that postal workers
can distinguish New Year cards from regular mail.

Prepaid New Year's postcards with lottery numbers are the kind most
commonly used by Japanese people. The lottery's winning numbers are
picked in mid-January. The prizes aren't money but are various
household goods, such as electronics, stamps, and so on. Those prepaid
postcards are basically plain, so people print photos or images, draw
pictures, and write messages on their own.

Another important part of the etiquette is not to send a New Year's
card to a family in mourning. You might receive postcards from people
who are in mourning from mid. November, notifying you that they won't
receive and send New Year's greeting cards that year.

Blair

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Old April 20th 09, 05:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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On Apr 19, 11:26*pm, Blair wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:18*pm, "rodney" wrote:

Fascinating Blair.


Every New Year, Japan runs a postcard lottery. *Here are the semi
postal stamps for Year of the Ox.
http://whatjapanthinks.com/image09/o...ama-stamps.jpg


I do not understand this one,
how does the Japan system work?
this sheet is similar, is it semi postal or just a ss?http://cjoint.com/data/evn224lyOF.htm


Thanks


For example, you buy the postcard which has the imprint of semi postal
stamps (eg 50 + 3 yen and 80 + 3 yen). *I assume that the 6 yen covers
cost of the card + some prizes, although I believe some companies
donate prizes as a means of publicity.The card has a serial number on
it.

Next you write your Happy New Year message and mail me the postcard in
mid to late December.
The Japanese Post Office holds it and all are delivered on New Years
Day.

About Jan 15, the winning numbers are published and everyone checks
their cards for a winner.
Prizes are not money, but electronics, manufactured goods, stamps,
etc.

Sending New Year's postcards (nengajo) to relatives, friends,
teachers, classmates, and co-workers is a very important custom in
Japan. Nengajo should be delivered on January 1st. People are happy to
receive and read those nengajo on New Year's Day. Japanese post
offices accept New Year's cards from mid-December, and they deliver
them on New Year's Day. It's a tradition for Japanese people to write
New Year's cards during December. It's best to mail nengajo before
Dec. 25th. Be sure to write 'nenga' under the stamp or use prepaid New
Year's postcards issued by Japan Post Network so that postal workers
can distinguish New Year cards from regular mail.

Prepaid New Year's postcards with lottery numbers are the kind most
commonly used by Japanese people. The lottery's winning numbers are
picked in mid-January. The prizes aren't money but are various
household goods, such as electronics, stamps, and so on. Those prepaid
postcards are basically plain, so people print photos or images, draw
pictures, and write messages on their own.

Another important part of the etiquette is not to send a New Year's
card to a family in mourning. You might receive postcards from people
who are in mourning from mid. November, notifying you that they won't
receive and send New Year's greeting cards that year.

Blair


Correction:

The stamps are not semi postals . Regular stamps and souvenir sheets
are issued for the New Years holidays.

It is the lottery postcards that have the semi postal stamp imprint.
(ie postal stationery).
Here is a sample (41 + 3 yen) New Years postcard.
http://i13.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/2a/d6/6234_1.JPG
The cards are listed in the Sakura catalogue. This one is NC78.

Here is NC74. http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/2a/d6/63e4_1.JPG

Blair
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Old April 20th 09, 07:27 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Thank you very much Blair.



"Blair" wrote in message
...
On Apr 19, 6:18 pm, "rodney" wrote:
Fascinating Blair.

Every New Year, Japan runs a postcard lottery. Here are the semi
postal stamps for Year of the Ox.
http://whatjapanthinks.com/image09/o...ama-stamps.jpg


I do not understand this one,
how does the Japan system work?
this sheet is similar, is it semi postal or just a
ss?http://cjoint.com/data/evn224lyOF.htm

Thanks


For example, you buy the postcard which has the imprint of semi postal
stamps (eg 50 + 3 yen and 80 + 3 yen). I assume that the 6 yen covers
cost of the card + some prizes, although I believe some companies
donate prizes as a means of publicity.The card has a serial number on
it.

Next you write your Happy New Year message and mail me the postcard in
mid to late December.
The Japanese Post Office holds it and all are delivered on New Years
Day.

About Jan 15, the winning numbers are published and everyone checks
their cards for a winner.
Prizes are not money, but electronics, manufactured goods, stamps,
etc.

Sending New Year's postcards (nengajo) to relatives, friends,
teachers, classmates, and co-workers is a very important custom in
Japan. Nengajo should be delivered on January 1st. People are happy to
receive and read those nengajo on New Year's Day. Japanese post
offices accept New Year's cards from mid-December, and they deliver
them on New Year's Day. It's a tradition for Japanese people to write
New Year's cards during December. It's best to mail nengajo before
Dec. 25th. Be sure to write 'nenga' under the stamp or use prepaid New
Year's postcards issued by Japan Post Network so that postal workers
can distinguish New Year cards from regular mail.

Prepaid New Year's postcards with lottery numbers are the kind most
commonly used by Japanese people. The lottery's winning numbers are
picked in mid-January. The prizes aren't money but are various
household goods, such as electronics, stamps, and so on. Those prepaid
postcards are basically plain, so people print photos or images, draw
pictures, and write messages on their own.

Another important part of the etiquette is not to send a New Year's
card to a family in mourning. You might receive postcards from people
who are in mourning from mid. November, notifying you that they won't
receive and send New Year's greeting cards that year.

Blair


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Old April 20th 09, 08:39 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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John Evelyn's Diary has this little episode about lotteries, too:

To London to see the event of the lottery which his Majesty had
permitted Sir Arthur Slingsby to set up for one day in the Banqueting
House at White-hall. I gaining only a trifle, as well as did the
King, Queene-consort and Queene-mother for neere 30 lotts; which was
thought to be contrived very unhandsomely by the master of it, who
was, in truth, a meer shark.

John Evelyn's Diary, 19 July 1664
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Old April 20th 09, 09:21 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Peter Baumann[_2_]
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rodney schrieb:
My database has Netherlands SG1225 1976 as a "lottery" stamp
(no image avail)

A lottery bumper sticker
http://cjoint.com/data/evq7Pl4hn7.htm





The Norwegian post too, issued a lottery stamp in May 1964, in favour
of the Refugee Fond.



Peter

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Old April 20th 09, 11:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Gerhard Reichert
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"Tony Vella" schrieb im Newsbeitrag

snip

Since the dawn of time, Man has believed in Destiny. The term
"lottery" derives from lotto, the Italian word for Destiny, or fate.

The history of lotteries can be traced back to Moses and the Bible. To
award tracts of land west of the River Jordan, Moses used a lottery.
It is also said that the construction of the Great Wall of China was
financed by funds raised by lotteries, and that certain lottery forms
date back to the time of Julius Caesar.

snip

You know, Blair, I never thought it was Julius Caesar who ran a numbers
racket; I was pretty sure it was a later Caesar: Augustus, perhaps. You
learn something new every day. Thanks.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Hi Tony,

my Italian is not very good, to tell the truth, there is no Italian language
I learned, but the italian words for "destiny" I found a

destino, fato (in Latin: fatum), sorte, caso, coinzidenza, combinazione, but
no "lotto".

Do You have any reference for "lotto" used as destiny?

kind regards

Gerhard


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Old April 20th 09, 11:48 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Peter Baumann[_2_]
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Gerhard Reichert schrieb:
"Tony Vella" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
snip

Since the dawn of time, Man has believed in Destiny. The term
"lottery" derives from lotto, the Italian word for Destiny, or fate.

The history of lotteries can be traced back to Moses and the Bible. To
award tracts of land west of the River Jordan, Moses used a lottery.
It is also said that the construction of the Great Wall of China was
financed by funds raised by lotteries, and that certain lottery forms
date back to the time of Julius Caesar.

snip

You know, Blair, I never thought it was Julius Caesar who ran a numbers
racket; I was pretty sure it was a later Caesar: Augustus, perhaps. You
learn something new every day. Thanks.
--
Tony Vella
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


Hi Tony,

my Italian is not very good, to tell the truth, there is no Italian language
I learned, but the italian words for "destiny" I found a

destino, fato (in Latin: fatum), sorte, caso, coinzidenza, combinazione, but
no "lotto".

Do You have any reference for "lotto" used as destiny?

kind regards

Gerhard


Try this one:
http://www.betgame2000.com/de/geschi...-lotterie.html

If you translate that into english, you get "destiny".



Peter

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