WARNING - Avoid Edmonton Stamp Show=Avoid Thefts!!

If some of you are fools, who do not want to believe the truth as detailed by
victims, APS, BNAPS and the police, then you deserve to have your stock stolen
by those responsible from the Edmonton Stamp Show!!

The facts have been well documented by the victims of such thefts.

The reposting is to warn others who may not be aware of the risks involved in
attending the Edmonton Stamp Show.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal ionvestigations ongoing against several executives there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the next
bad news report from there?


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:35:50 GMT, Tom Loepp wrote:

But doesn't that seem like a bigger crime to make accusations on an appearance.
Isn't that what is wrong with the world? Did you learn nothing from Sherlock's
most celebrated cases. The truth can be so logical as to defy fantasy. What if
some extraterrestrials or supernaturals were exacting revenge on evil stamp
collectors? Is that beyond the realm of possibility? Aren't stamp collectors and
dealers among the ranks of the darkside?
The apple doesn't fall too far from the worm.

Ernst Zundholz wrote:

It is NOt a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as BNAPS have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:29:00 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:09:13 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

A WARNING TO ALL, about the upcoming Edmonton Stamp Show.
AVOID, and you will not have your material STOLEN, as has been
happening regularly the past few years!!

Just ask Bob Kane of central B.C., for his comments as published in
APS!!

Troll.

Go find something else to do instead of playing stamp cop. you do a
poor job of it.

Droll troll.

Wait! I just hear another stamp show has as many thieves! I'll fill
you in privately, via e-mail as to not disturb the neighbors here.

If you don't get a response from me in 5 minutes, please start without
me.

Very droll troll.



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On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:32:54 -0700, Pat Humphrey
wrote:

If some of you are fools, who do not want to believe the truth as detailed by
victims, APS, BNAPS and the police, then you deserve to have your stock stolen
by those responsible from the Edmonton Stamp Show!!

The facts have been well documented by the victims of such thefts.

The reposting is to warn others who may not be aware of the risks involved in
attending the Edmonton Stamp Show.

It appears you are playing the fool. You keep playing the same
message to the same audience.

Why don't you put on a sandwich poster sign and walk around Edmonton
telling everyone you see about this.

Then we'll see who the fools truly are. I have a funny feeling you'll
be in the list.

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Tracy Barber
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adirondack-pc
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"Freebie Stamp Project"
=======================

A fool and his merchandise are soon parted....always by someone smarter than
them.

"Pat Humphrey" wrote in message
...
If some of you are fools, who do not want to believe the truth as detailed
by
victims, APS, BNAPS and the police, then you deserve to have your stock
stolen
by those responsible from the Edmonton Stamp Show!!

The facts have been well documented by the victims of such thefts.

The reposting is to warn others who may not be aware of the risks involved
in
attending the Edmonton Stamp Show.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those
attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal ionvestigations ongoing against several executives
there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the
next
bad news report from there?


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:35:50 GMT, Tom Loepp wrote:

But doesn't that seem like a bigger crime to make accusations on an
appearance.
Isn't that what is wrong with the world? Did you learn nothing from
Sherlock's
most celebrated cases. The truth can be so logical as to defy fantasy.
What if
some extraterrestrials or supernaturals were exacting revenge on evil
stamp
collectors? Is that beyond the realm of possibility? Aren't stamp
collectors and
dealers among the ranks of the darkside?
The apple doesn't fall too far from the worm.

Ernst Zundholz wrote:

It is NOt a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of
THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as
BNAPS have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:29:00 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:09:13 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

A WARNING TO ALL, about the upcoming Edmonton Stamp Show.
AVOID, and you will not have your material STOLEN, as has been
happening regularly the past few years!!

Just ask Bob Kane of central B.C., for his comments as published in
APS!!

Troll.

Go find something else to do instead of playing stamp cop. you do a
poor job of it.

Droll troll.

Wait! I just hear another stamp show has as many thieves! I'll fill
you in privately, via e-mail as to not disturb the neighbors here.

If you don't get a response from me in 5 minutes, please start without
me.

Very droll troll.



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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:06:44 GMT, "Marty McDonald"
wrote:

A fool and his merchandise are soon parted....always by someone smarter than
them.

Do you mean that the crooks stealing from dealers at the Edmonton
Stamp Show [seemingly insiders], are smarter than the honest dealers?

Or, are they just more crooked?

Glad to see that you consider the topic important enough, to respond.



"Pat Humphrey" wrote in message
.. .
If some of you are fools, who do not want to believe the truth as detailed
by
victims, APS, BNAPS and the police, then you deserve to have your stock
stolen
by those responsible from the Edmonton Stamp Show!!

The facts have been well documented by the victims of such thefts.

The reposting is to warn others who may not be aware of the risks involved
in
attending the Edmonton Stamp Show.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those
attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal ionvestigations ongoing against several executives
there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the
next
bad news report from there?


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:35:50 GMT, Tom Loepp wrote:

But doesn't that seem like a bigger crime to make accusations on an
appearance.
Isn't that what is wrong with the world? Did you learn nothing from
Sherlock's
most celebrated cases. The truth can be so logical as to defy fantasy.
What if
some extraterrestrials or supernaturals were exacting revenge on evil
stamp
collectors? Is that beyond the realm of possibility? Aren't stamp
collectors and
dealers among the ranks of the darkside?
The apple doesn't fall too far from the worm.

Ernst Zundholz wrote:

It is NOt a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of
THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as
BNAPS have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:29:00 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:09:13 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

A WARNING TO ALL, about the upcoming Edmonton Stamp Show.
AVOID, and you will not have your material STOLEN, as has been
happening regularly the past few years!!

Just ask Bob Kane of central B.C., for his comments as published in
APS!!

Troll.

Go find something else to do instead of playing stamp cop. you do a
poor job of it.

Droll troll.

Wait! I just hear another stamp show has as many thieves! I'll fill
you in privately, via e-mail as to not disturb the neighbors here.

If you don't get a response from me in 5 minutes, please start without
me.

Very droll troll.



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Time to issue repost/warning, to save people from being more victims!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal investigations ongoing against several executives there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the next
bad news report from there?

It is NOT a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as BNAPS have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:09:13 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

A WARNING TO ALL, about the upcoming Edmonton Stamp Show.
AVOID, and you will not have your material STOLEN, as has been
happening regularly the past few years!!

Just ask Bob Kane of central B.C., for his comments as published in
APS!!

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Time to issue repost/warning, to save people from being more victims!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal investigations ongoing against several executives there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the next
bad news report from there?


It is NOT a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as BNAPS have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:09:13 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

A WARNING TO ALL, about the upcoming Edmonton Stamp Show.
AVOID, and you will not have your material STOLEN, as has been
happening regularly the past few years!!

Just ask Bob Kane of central B.C., for his comments as published in
APS!!


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Quick Nurse - he's out of bed again!!

Victims of your retardation

In article ,
"KATO" wrote:

Time to issue repost/warning, to save people from being more victims!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they
say.

With other criminal investigations ongoing against several executives there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the next
bad news report from there?


It is NOT a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of
THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as BNAPS
have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!


At the risk of encouraging this unfortunate two-year thread to continue,
please provide specific evidence about the existence of documentation
proving that "significant THEFTS from those attending the Edmonton Stamp
Show."

You have repeatedly stated publicly--and to the world via this
newsgroup--that there has been wholesale theft at the show in the past
and that it will happen again. Is this an allegation that someone will
steal stamps from collectors attending the show? Or, does this mean that
dealers will steal from collectors attending the show? Or, does it mean
that show organizers will steal from collectors attending the show? Or,
is this a claim that show organizers will steal from dealers at the
show? Or, is this a claim that dealers will steal from each other at the
show? Or, are you warning that collectors will be stealing from dealers
at the show? Or, are you alleging that that show security is so lax that
someone will attempt to steal from dealers' stock after the show closes
each afternoon? Or, is theft taking place in the hotel rooms of dealers
and collectors attending the show?

To salvage any credibility for your charges, please share specific
evidence that "significant THEFTS" have taken place in the past and will
likely take place again at the Edmonton Stamp Show. In the U.S. federal
courts have defined libel and slander as not only intentional untruthful
charges that harm another person or organization but also "reckless
regard of truth." I suspect that Canada statutory and case law with
regard to libel and slander have something similar. This means that if
anyone is going to make harmful allegations against another person or
organization--whether intentional or not--they better be prepared to
document those allegations in the event harm occurs to the other person
or organization. So, specifically, what personal knowledge do you have
that causes you to repeatedly warn the world that wholesale theft has
taken place and will take place again at the Edmonton Stamp Show? Who
stole from whom, how much was involved, and how widespread and frequent
was the theft you allege? And, why do you think that theft (if it
happened) will occur again? Finally, what is the basis for your personal
anger against the Edmonton Stamp Show, and why do you want it to fail?

Ed Jackson

His basis for the personal anger is that he was banned from any show
hosted by the Edmonton Stamp Club. He repeatedly asked dealers for their
business license and other financial information.

Ed Jackson wrote:
In article ,
"KATO" wrote:


Time to issue repost/warning, to save people from being more victims!

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:04:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:


With APS and BNAPS both documenting significant THEFTS from those attending
the Edmonton Stamp Show, a WARNING to all is just good advice.

Those who take it will benefit by not having their material stolen.

If those who go, get their material stolen, then that is their choice.

From all the reports, it most definitely looks like an inside job, as they

say.

With other criminal investigations ongoing against several executives there,
by various Canadian and other law agencies, who knows what will be the next
bad news report from there?


It is NOT a troll, when one warns potential victims of being victims of
THEFT
at Edmonton Stamp Show!!

For several years, APS and similar philatelic organisations such as BNAPS
have
had to report on thefts from those attending.

In all cases, there seem to be indications, of an INSIDE JOB!!


At the risk of encouraging this unfortunate two-year thread to continue,
please provide specific evidence about the existence of documentation
proving that "significant THEFTS from those attending the Edmonton Stamp
Show."

You have repeatedly stated publicly--and to the world via this
newsgroup--that there has been wholesale theft at the show in the past
and that it will happen again. Is this an allegation that someone will
steal stamps from collectors attending the show? Or, does this mean that
dealers will steal from collectors attending the show? Or, does it mean
that show organizers will steal from collectors attending the show? Or,
is this a claim that show organizers will steal from dealers at the
show? Or, is this a claim that dealers will steal from each other at the
show? Or, are you warning that collectors will be stealing from dealers
at the show? Or, are you alleging that that show security is so lax that
someone will attempt to steal from dealers' stock after the show closes
each afternoon? Or, is theft taking place in the hotel rooms of dealers
and collectors attending the show?

To salvage any credibility for your charges, please share specific
evidence that "significant THEFTS" have taken place in the past and will
likely take place again at the Edmonton Stamp Show. In the U.S. federal
courts have defined libel and slander as not only intentional untruthful
charges that harm another person or organization but also "reckless
regard of truth." I suspect that Canada statutory and case law with
regard to libel and slander have something similar. This means that if
anyone is going to make harmful allegations against another person or
organization--whether intentional or not--they better be prepared to
document those allegations in the event harm occurs to the other person
or organization. So, specifically, what personal knowledge do you have
that causes you to repeatedly warn the world that wholesale theft has
taken place and will take place again at the Edmonton Stamp Show? Who
stole from whom, how much was involved, and how widespread and frequent
was the theft you allege? And, why do you think that theft (if it
happened) will occur again? Finally, what is the basis for your personal
anger against the Edmonton Stamp Show, and why do you want it to fail?

Ed Jackson