Why no women on mighty dollar?

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Old Hillary Clinton will change this when she is elected president.

I didn't bother reading the article but what is this LADY complaining
about. Women have dominated the U.S. dollar. Look at the Drapped Bust
dollar. Thats 100% woman. Talk about lift and support. Wonder bra, eat
your heart out. Dollars have been a river of estrogen for 100's of
years. Poor Ike is an outcast.

Jim

On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K

ronrpk wrote:

On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm


Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K


My email to Mary Ann follows:

Hello Mary Ann,

We certainly have an axe to grind, don't we?

"The coin never caught on. Beyond the confusion with the quarter,
using it for a tip seemed chintzier than handing a parking lot
attendant a real dollar bill."

I see by your statement that the SBA, as it is affectionately
called, is not a /real/ dollar. It never caught on? Who's job is
that, pray, Uncle Sam's? Is it the job of big government to tell
you how you are supposed to truck into a bank and demand your fill
of dollar coins rather than those filthy old paper things? Maybe
it's the government's job to force merchants to hand them out in
change so they get around more, hmm?

"You couldn't practically put Anthony coins in a birthday card for a
child, and some people didn't like them because they just hated the
idea of a feminist being commemorated in the first place."

You could if you bought cards that held them, or made your own
rather than being a slave to the greeting card industry. Who are
these "some people" who "didn't like them because they just hated
the idea of a feminist being being commemorated in the first place"?
Got any names? Maybe we should ask them rather than setting up
strawmen and knocking them down.

"I didn't see the dollar coins in a bank, nor did I receive them as
change for a purchase. Instead, I got more than $8 worth of them
from a subway machine in Boston."

Probably because Uncle Sam didn't get there with his big stick yet,
however the reason these coins made a sudden comeback was because
transit agencies found it easier to deal with hundreds of small
dollar coins than 4 times hundreds of quarter dollar coins. Also,
as one example, the dollar coins can be easily counted and wrapped
by machine, where New York City, a few years back, paid $165,000 in
wages of professional Dollar Bill Straighteners (I am not making
this up.) It seems practicality has won out. Get used to seeing
them if you ride buses, subways or light rail.

"Our money constitutes a gallery of dead white men. Even though any
number of minorities and women, both white and of color, have made
tremendous contributions to this nation, the mint hasn't been able to
move beyond our forefathers."

Now it does. The coinage of the United States bore the figure of
Lady Liberty from the first coins until 1909 for the cent, 1913 for
five cent (native american from 1913 to 1938), 1945 for ten cent,
1930 for twenty-five cent, 1947 for fifty cent, 1935 for one
dollar coins and many gold coins from one dollar up to twenty
dollars. A trip to the Hobby section of any bookstore should
reveal an assortment of coin collecting books which would have told
you this. Books on Federal Reserve Notes or Paper Money, can be
found, too and will indicate that the practice of placing dead
white men on the bills wasn't how they started out. As to the
practice of adding dead presidents, many
oppose this practice and would prefer a return to Liberty. By the
way, Benjamin Franklin was not a president, just an ordinary old
run of the mill patriot.

"Despite recent updating of some of our bills, the images remained
the same. It seems not to occur to government to issue currency
with, let's say, Caesar Chavez's likeness, or Rosa Parks'. "

You might wander over to the local branch of the US Post Office,
they manage to fit just about everyone on a stamp these days.

"I'll tell you one thing: if we ever do have such a coin or a bill,
the black and Latino communities will never stand for a recall like
the one that shamed the Anthony dollar. "

My goodness! I didn't hear about this recall and me with a small
pile of them, too! Do share, when did this happen and is it too
late for me to cash them in for /real/ dollar bills?

"No Dwight D. Eisenhower dollar coins showed up in my change, nor
does the U.S. Mint say they are used for that purpose. I guess Ike's
dollar coins just got a decent burial, while Susan B's and Sacagewea's
are destined to wander endlessly as loose change. "

The Eisenhower dollars, "Ikes", were primarily struck for the use
of Las Vegas casinos in their slot machines. Now most of the
casinos use tokens of the same size and weight bearing their name
and perhaps a slogan. Actually finding one in circulation usually
results in the current person in posession furtively stashing it
away at home in a safe place. Perhaps in the belief it's worth
more than One Dollar or it's such a novelty. I got these for
birthdays for a while. I didn't spend them, sorry if it's my fault
you don't see one in circulation.

"It's unlikely that we shall see the nation's diversity reflected
in our currency any time soon. "

Given up already? You seemed on a roll, ready to take on the
powers that be and get them to put, uh, someone worthy on a coin.
Gee, there's got to be a lot of women, whom do you recommend?
Anyway, write it down and send it to your congressional
representative and get your editor to run a constructive piece on
how the public can get this remedied before another dead president
steals the obverse side of another coin.

"Funny the depths to which disdain for equality can sink -- and the
myriad ways in which it rears its ugly head. "

No, it's not funny. Neither is ignorance funny. That was quite the
ugly, reactionary article you wrote. Perhaps rather than rake muck
on the subject you'll take the time to rally the public to action
rather than moan about it.

--
Best regards,
Richard J Adams
Santa Cruz, California

(A copy of this letter will be publicly posted on
REC.COLLECTING.COINS, please check Google Groups)

"ronrpk" wrote in message
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On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K

My wife can't tell you who is on the coins much less notes. Her opinion of
my collection is
that money is for spending not collecting an as long as it spends who cares
what image is on it.

Dale

Dale Hallmark wrote:

"ronrpk" wrote in message
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On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K


My wife can't tell you who is on the coins much less notes. Her opinion of
my collection is
that money is for spending not collecting an as long as it spends who cares
what image is on it.

Dale



Who's face is on her credit cards?

"Richard Adams" wrote in message
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Dale Hallmark wrote:

"ronrpk" wrote in message
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On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K


My wife can't tell you who is on the coins much less notes. Her opinion
of my collection is
that money is for spending not collecting an as long as it spends who
cares what image is on it.

Dale

Who's face is on her credit cards?

No faces just a big VISA and MASTERCHARGE logo ;-)
That is better than last year when there were 8 of them.

Dale
making progress one divorce at time!! LOL jus kidding

Dale Hallmark wrote:

"Richard Adams" wrote in message
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Dale Hallmark wrote:

"ronrpk" wrote in message
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On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K


My wife can't tell you who is on the coins much less notes. Her opinion
of my collection is
that money is for spending not collecting an as long as it spends who
cares what image is on it.

Dale

Who's face is on her credit cards?

No faces just a big VISA and MASTERCHARGE logo ;-)
That is better than last year when there were 8 of them.

Dale
making progress one divorce at time!! LOL jus kidding

My household has made financial leaps and bounds since we reduced our
revolving account debt to zero and cancelled all our credit card
accounts. We are now saving and investing with an aggressiveness that
credit card rates of interest made all but impossible.

As to the realtive 'market value' of famous women...I am shocked when I
look at the 'rare book' market. Elanor Roosevelt I know got around and
signed for everyone everywhere, but just the same, an autographed first
edition of Elanor Roosevelt's works often go for $1500 or less, while a
Tennessee Williams or even 'Madeline in Paris' goes for 300% of that.

Personally, I'd go for that motivator behind the United Nations
everytime, but I refuse to collect *anything* that can succumb to insect
damage. ;-)

Alan
'no mothholed Liberty Seated Dollars'

"Alan Williams" wrote in message
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Dale Hallmark wrote:

"Richard Adams" wrote in message
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Dale Hallmark wrote:

"ronrpk" wrote in message
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On 28 Jan 2006 04:12:43 -0800, "stonej"
wrote:


http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily...6/a06op965.htm

Seems to me this author is taking it way to personally. I asked my
wife if she feels cheated because our founding fathers are on the
majority of our currency,,, her answer - no.

-- Ron K


My wife can't tell you who is on the coins much less notes. Her
opinion
of my collection is
that money is for spending not collecting an as long as it spends who
cares what image is on it.

Dale

Who's face is on her credit cards?

No faces just a big VISA and MASTERCHARGE logo ;-)
That is better than last year when there were 8 of them.

Dale
making progress one divorce at time!! LOL jus kidding

My household has made financial leaps and bounds since we reduced our
revolving account debt to zero and cancelled all our credit card
accounts. We are now saving and investing with an aggressiveness that
credit card rates of interest made all but impossible.

As to the realtive 'market value' of famous women...I am shocked when I
look at the 'rare book' market. Elanor Roosevelt I know got around and
signed for everyone everywhere, but just the same, an autographed first
edition of Elanor Roosevelt's works often go for $1500 or less, while a
Tennessee Williams or even 'Madeline in Paris' goes for 300% of that.

Personally, I'd go for that motivator behind the United Nations
everytime, but I refuse to collect *anything* that can succumb to insect
damage. ;-)

Alan
'no mothholed Liberty Seated Dollars'

The problem I have with collecting autographs is that they are on all kinds
of crap ;-)
I would collect small pieces of paper (especially non dedicated overleaf)
with the autograph only.
Add it to a book with a dedication or the end of a letter and I am not
interested.

My son (last of the two children) is 18 and will shortly be going to
college.
This fall. Just a couple more years and I will be a
major collector of stuff for a little while :-) LOL Well that is the game
plan anyway.

Dale
Then I have to sell it all before I die as my family is pretty ignorant in
this area.
If I could predict that, then I could plan a little better :-)