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Old February 7th 07, 11:15 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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http://cjoint.com/data/chmmFMl0Cj.htm

Enjoy!
Blair

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Old February 7th 07, 02:43 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Aptly named,
for the man who desires to be surrounded
by 5,000 boobies.


http://cjoint.com/data/chmmFMl0Cj.htm

Enjoy!
Blair



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Old February 7th 07, 06:31 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On 7 Feb 2007 03:15:17 -0800, "Blair (TC)"
wrote:

http://cjoint.com/data/chmmFMl0Cj.htm


Blair -

Real or fake? Postally used or simply contrived? This is a new one
for me.
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Old February 7th 07, 06:40 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Blair (TC)" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://cjoint.com/data/chmmFMl0Cj.htm

Enjoy!
Blair


Blair,

Could you please explain what are these stamps about? TIA.

--
Victor


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Old February 7th 07, 08:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Stamps of Clipperton Island

Clipperton Island is a barren, ring-shaped coral atoll
located 1630 miles south-southeast of San Diego,
California, and 1600 miles west of Nicaragua.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...CarteLocal.gif

The only atoll in the East Pacific, it was originally
discovered by Ferdinand Magellan in 1521.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...teactuelle.jpg

Mexico occupied Clipperton Island in 1897 establishing
a military outpost. A settlement was built in order to mine
guano, but was eventually abandoned.

Ownership of Clipperton was then disputed between France
and Mexico. In 1930, the French settled a military outpost
on the island, which remained for seven years before being
abandoned.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rtonisland.jpg

Wolfgang Baldus in The Postage Stamps of Clipperton
Island reports that in the early 1990s French collector Henri
Guillon overprinted a few used sets of the French definitives
of 1932 to enhance his collection of French island stamps.

According to Baldus, ''These are probably the scarcest of
all Clipperton stamps.''

Blair

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Old February 8th 07, 07:15 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Hi Blair,

I answered in Frp, I translate my remarks for the English-speaking people.

"ILE DE CLIPPERTON" overprints are Bogus.

In 1934, the ship Jeanne D'Arc visited Clipperton. Philatelic mails has been
made with "Paix" stamps but without overprint. The postmark was hexagonal
and dotted with "CROISEUR ECOLE JEANNE D'ARC / 2-12 34". A manual stamp with
"JEANNE D'ARC a L'ILE CLIPPERTON 2 Decembre 1934" has been put in the cover.
These covers are very rare.

Source : Bertrand Sinais, "HISTOIRE POSTALE D'UNE ILE DESERTE" La philatélie
française 463, janvier 1993.

In this article, some date are not the same than yours

1858 : Commandant Le Coat de Kerveguen took the French sovereignty on this
island
1897 : 3 américans put US flag on the island. After French protest, US was
agreed with the French sovereignty.
After that, Mexicans put their flag despite French protest.
1906 : Mexico occupied Clipperton Island with a little garnison
1913 : Because the civil war in mexico, the little garnison was forget
1917 : US Yorktown warship found few survivors in the island.
After 1st world war, King of Italy Victor Emmanuel III gave the sovereignty
on this island to France
2 décembre 1934 : 1st visit of Jeanne d'Arc (without landing)
26 janvier 1935 : 2nd visit of Jeanne d'Arc (with landing)
1951 : visit of polar ship Commandant Charcot
1952 : visit of Jeanne d'Arc
1953 : visit of Aviso La moqueuse
1962 : visit of cruiser De Grasse
After 1964, the new ship Jeanne d'Arc has visited the island, and at each
visit a commemorative stamp has put on covers.
5 mars 1968, 10 mars 1969, 5 avril 1977, 29 mars 1979, 24 janvier 1982.

France has never occupied clipperton island with a permanent settlement.

regards,

Stéphane Buchheit
Colfra n°586

"Blair (TC)" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Stamps of Clipperton Island

Clipperton Island is a barren, ring-shaped coral atoll
located 1630 miles south-southeast of San Diego,
California, and 1600 miles west of Nicaragua.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...CarteLocal.gif

The only atoll in the East Pacific, it was originally
discovered by Ferdinand Magellan in 1521.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...teactuelle.jpg

Mexico occupied Clipperton Island in 1897 establishing
a military outpost. A settlement was built in order to mine
guano, but was eventually abandoned.

Ownership of Clipperton was then disputed between France
and Mexico. In 1930, the French settled a military outpost
on the island, which remained for seven years before being
abandoned.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rtonisland.jpg

Wolfgang Baldus in The Postage Stamps of Clipperton
Island reports that in the early 1990s French collector Henri
Guillon overprinted a few used sets of the French definitives
of 1932 to enhance his collection of French island stamps.

According to Baldus, ''These are probably the scarcest of
all Clipperton stamps.''

Blair



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Old February 8th 07, 01:27 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Merci Stéphane:

It is difficult to find much information on Clipperton's history.

Now to look for one of those 1934 "Ecole Jeanne d'Arc" covers.

d8*)

Blair

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Old February 8th 07, 02:59 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Blair (TC)" wrote in message
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Merci Stéphane:

It is difficult to find much information on Clipperton's history.


Clipperton was a stop on the 1944 trans-pacific survey flight of Australian
P G Taylor - in RAF Catalina 'Frigate Bird'. It landed in the lagoon.

http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/bio...p%3Bg%3Btaylor

He was earlier a regular crew member of Kingsford Smith on the Southern
Cross. His name is associated with the pioneering trans-Tasman airmail
flights to New Zealand.
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/wclark/page8.htm

He also pioneered a wartime cross-Indian Ocean link which maintained airmail
communications to Australia after Singapore was lost to the Japanese.

His flying boat Catalina from a later Pacific flight Frigate Bird 2, is part
of the collection of the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney
http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/coll...se/?irn=207900

http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Taylor%...air%20mail.htm - a
cover from that 1951 flight - the first across the South Pacific - Australia
to Chile and return, via Fiji, Tonga, Aitutaki (Cook Is.), Tahiti, Mangareva
and Easter Island.



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Old February 8th 07, 07:37 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Hi Blair,

To see a 1934 cover
http://cjoint.com/?ciuJJeTUy4

Regards,

Stéphane Buchheit
Colfra n°586

"Blair (TC)" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

Merci Stéphane:

It is difficult to find much information on Clipperton's history.

Now to look for one of those 1934 "Ecole Jeanne d'Arc" covers.

d8*)

Blair


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Old February 8th 07, 08:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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France has never occupied clipperton island with a permanent settlement.
regards,
Stéphane Buchheit


However, the US has occupied the atoll, constantly over time
via flotsam and jetsam.

"Milbrand holds a tin box that contains dozens of small
plastic toys he collected on the shores of Clipperton.
There are green army men, plastic horses, a plastic
Ronald McDonald cookie cutter, and cowboys and
Indians. They lack the sheen of most plastic toys because
they have been covered in guano for an unknown period
of time. "

The most populous toy, having been the green plastic army jeep.

Australia screened a documentary last year of the Etienne expedition,
the memory is hazy, but I remember the focus was the fight for
dominance between the atoll's crabs, and the rats.

The Clipperton Expedition: Booby Island

A ring of coral lost in the Pacific. The most isolated
atoll on earth. Clipperton, a tiny French territory off the
coast of Mexico, remains a scientific mystery. How did
life manage to take root here? Which species have
developed?

In this spectacular six part series, The Clipperton
Expedition, biologists embark on an expansive
exploration to investigate this unique ecosystem. Dr.
Jean-Louis Etienne fulfilled a lifelong dream when he
organised a large scientific expedition to solve the
mysteries of the atoll of Clipperton.

Throughout the six parts, it is reveals why Clipperton is a
preserved laboratory of evolution, with forms of life
existing there which can be found nowhere else on earth.
Throughout the course of this six part series, Etienne's
team uncovers the environmental and biological secrets
hidden in the isolated atoll, and takes these discoveries
away to help build a more sustainable future for the rest
of the world. (From France, in French and English,
English subtitles) (Part 3)



Duration (mins) 30
Date of broadcast 28/6/2006
Series Title Documentary Series: The Clipperton
Expedition
Channel SBS
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Clipperton bogus stamps
CLIPPERTON ISLAND: Mexico, overprinted with a
diagonal "Clipperton" and issued in 1885 for island in the
Pacific 800 miles from San Francisco. During the late
19th century the Oceanic Phosphate Co. printed local
labels and used them for the company's mail.
=====================================

Clipperton shares the name "Booby Isle" with another
Island north of Australia, in the Arafura sea.

Cheers









 




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