where have the extortionately priced penman auctions gone?

Hi folks,

A couple of years ago I often find Parker penman ink being sold for $30 plus a
bottom on the eBay. Now I know that the penman ink is being re-released but FP
users are weird in that they often prefer old ink to new ones (count the number
of dip well Sheaffer in your hoard!), so I thought the crazy auctions would
continue - but today I did a search on all of eBay and found not a single penman
ink auction! What has happened??????????

Ada

Where did you get the information that it was being released again? The
original penman was highly saturated with dye, hence it didn't work reliably
in every pen. I have 2 bottles of ebony and 2 of sapphire. Both original.
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...
Hi folks,

A couple of years ago I often find Parker penman ink being sold for $30
plus a bottom on the eBay. Now I know that the penman ink is being
re-released but FP users are weird in that they often prefer old ink to
new ones (count the number of dip well Sheaffer in your hoard!), so I
thought the crazy auctions would continue - but today I did a search on
all of eBay and found not a single penman ink auction! What has
happened??????????

Ada

I have heard that they have shifted the manufacturing to the Hero ink factory
Shanghai, I have even seen pictures of the new penman. Wait a minute, I think I
saw it on Sam's webpage. Let me check!

don wrote:

Where did you get the information that it was being released again? The
original penman was highly saturated with dye, hence it didn't work reliably
in every pen. I have 2 bottles of ebony and 2 of sapphire. Both original.
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...

Hi folks,

A couple of years ago I often find Parker penman ink being sold for $30
plus a bottom on the eBay. Now I know that the penman ink is being
re-released but FP users are weird in that they often prefer old ink to
new ones (count the number of dip well Sheaffer in your hoard!), so I
thought the crazy auctions would continue - but today I did a search on
all of eBay and found not a single penman ink auction! What has
happened??????????

Ada

Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman, but I
need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about my searches.

Ada Ma wrote:

I have heard that they have shifted the manufacturing to the Hero ink
factory Shanghai, I have even seen pictures of the new penman. Wait a
minute, I think I saw it on Sam's webpage. Let me check!

don wrote:

Where did you get the information that it was being released again?
The original penman was highly saturated with dye, hence it didn't
work reliably in every pen. I have 2 bottles of ebony and 2 of
sapphire. Both original.
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...

Hi folks,

A couple of years ago I often find Parker penman ink being sold for
$30 plus a bottom on the eBay. Now I know that the penman ink is
being re-released but FP users are weird in that they often prefer
old ink to new ones (count the number of dip well Sheaffer in your
hoard!), so I thought the crazy auctions would continue - but today I
did a search on all of eBay and found not a single penman ink
auction! What has happened??????????

Ada

"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...
Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman, but
I need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about my
searches.


You mean here?
http://pagesperso.laposte.net/fpnet/...?showtopic=108

Ada Ma wrote:

I have heard that they have shifted the manufacturing to the Hero ink
factory Shanghai, I have even seen pictures of the new penman.

I have a picture of the bottom of the box posted at PT once but it has
rolled off the board. It is not made in the Hero factory. The bottom says,
Parker Pen Shanghai Co. Ltd.

--
Best regards,
T-H Lim
(aka Free Citizen)
Fountain Pen Network
A pen site run by the Pen Community
http://pagesperso.laposte.net/fpnet
Short Domain Name: fpforum.tk

Please do. I for one would be interested in how they overcome the flow
problems associated with the original. I can only use this ink in certain
pens reliably but would be interested in obtaining more if it is the same as
the original (not likely though, is it?)
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...
Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman, but
I need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about my
searches.

Thanks for posting. I remember seeing a slightly differnt picture and it was
actually on a website selling things.


Free Citizen wrote:
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...

Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman, but
I need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about my
searches.



You mean here?
http://pagesperso.laposte.net/fpnet/...?showtopic=108


Ada Ma wrote:


I have heard that they have shifted the manufacturing to the Hero ink
factory Shanghai, I have even seen pictures of the new penman.


I have a picture of the bottom of the box posted at PT once but it has
rolled off the board. It is not made in the Hero factory. The bottom says,
Parker Pen Shanghai Co. Ltd.

don wrote:

Please do. I for one would be interested in how they overcome the flow
problems associated with the original. I can only use this ink in certain
pens reliably but would be interested in obtaining more if it is the same as
the original (not likely though, is it?)
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...

Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman, but
I need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about my
searches.




OK - my googling report, finally.

Here is the search link I have done:
http://tinyurl.com/4jn35

The first set of chinese means Parker, 2nd is the name for Penman ink in
chinese, third set is Ink in chinese.

Another search with Parker, Ink, Penman:
http://tinyurl.com/5xcen

This search turns up a flaky looking online store based in Hunan (= Lake South)
which lists Parker Penman amongst their stock. If you go to the following page
and click on the link which says "Penman", then you'll get a giant picture of a
bottle of Penman ink.

http://www.hnparker.com/pkjg.htm

Another website - Parker Pen (Shanghai) Ltd. - seems more legitimate and has a
link to the Sanford. From this website, there's a page about a LE Duofold Burgundy:
http://tinyurl.com/4aqnn

A brief search on this LE Duofold Burgundy turns up with nothing (someone please
fill me in if they know that this LE is for real). This LE Duofold comes with a
bottle of Penman ink, but I can't see clearly from the picture whether the
bottle is eliptical as it is described in Free Citizen's post:
http://www.parkerpen.com.cn:8081/ima...t_120_bbig.jpg

The thing with websites is that we don't know whether they are the real thing or
not.

I have written Sanford a email and I'll post if I get any reply. I guess
another option is to give Sanford a ring and ask them...

Apologies for not being of much help.

Cheers,
Ada

Au contraire,
You've been a lot of help. Did you notice that it is only available in
Ebony? I can't find anything that indicates whether this is a reintroduction
of the original or a completely reformulated offering, can you? With the
obvious differences in the packaging, I get the feeling that this is a
totally new offering that is just using the Penman name. I will indeed be
interested to see if they also offer it in sapphire, mocha and emerald.
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...
don wrote:

Please do. I for one would be interested in how they overcome the flow
problems associated with the original. I can only use this ink in certain
pens reliably but would be interested in obtaining more if it is the same
as the original (not likely though, is it?)
don
"Ada Ma" wrote in message
...

Nope - can't find it. I'm sure I've seen a picture of the new Penman,
but I need to do some googling in chinese. I'll post a follow up about
my searches.




OK - my googling report, finally.

Here is the search link I have done:
http://tinyurl.com/4jn35

The first set of chinese means Parker, 2nd is the name for Penman ink in
chinese, third set is Ink in chinese.

Another search with Parker, Ink, Penman:
http://tinyurl.com/5xcen

This search turns up a flaky looking online store based in Hunan (= Lake
South) which lists Parker Penman amongst their stock. If you go to the
following page and click on the link which says "Penman", then you'll get
a giant picture of a bottle of Penman ink.

http://www.hnparker.com/pkjg.htm

Another website - Parker Pen (Shanghai) Ltd. - seems more legitimate and
has a link to the Sanford. From this website, there's a page about a LE
Duofold Burgundy:
http://tinyurl.com/4aqnn

A brief search on this LE Duofold Burgundy turns up with nothing (someone
please fill me in if they know that this LE is for real). This LE Duofold
comes with a bottle of Penman ink, but I can't see clearly from the
picture whether the bottle is eliptical as it is described in Free
Citizen's post:
http://www.parkerpen.com.cn:8081/ima...t_120_bbig.jpg

The thing with websites is that we don't know whether they are the real
thing or not.

I have written Sanford a email and I'll post if I get any reply. I guess
another option is to give Sanford a ring and ask them...

Apologies for not being of much help.

Cheers,
Ada

don wrote:
Au contraire,
You've been a lot of help. Did you notice that it is only available in
Ebony? I can't find anything that indicates whether this is a reintroduction
of the original or a completely reformulated offering, can you? With the
obvious differences in the packaging, I get the feeling that this is a
totally new offering that is just using the Penman name. I will indeed be
interested to see if they also offer it in sapphire, mocha and emerald.
don

Hello Don,

I have received a reply from the Parker Pen company in China. I'm writing them
another email to ask about the penman ink. See attached.

Cheers,
Ada

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ada Ma
To: Luke Zhang
Subject: Contact us Email Generated from Sanford Site


Hello Luke,

I am a fountain pen aficionado so I have a few more burning questions.

Is the Parker Penman ink for fountain pens being produced in Shanghai? If not,
where is it being produced? I have heard people saying that it's being produced
by the Hero pen company, is this true?

What colours are there for the Parker Penman ink produced in China? Will there
be new colours coming out in the future?

Is the formula used for the new Parker Penman Ink the same as the one used when
it was produced in England in the 1990s? Some people have said that the Penman
ink tends to clog certain fountain pens, has the formula been changed to address
this problem?

Many many thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ada Ma





Luke Zhang wrote:

Dear sirs,

The website of Parker Pen Shanghai China is www.parkerpen.com.cn , you can
find the production information on this site. thanks!

Best Reards,

Luke Zhang
Parker Pen Shanghai Limited.
Tel: 0086-21-6271 9900 * 610
Fax: 0086-21-6272 6967

----- Original Message -----
From: "Man, Tina"
To: "Luke Zhang"
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:03 AM
Subject: FW: Contact us Email Generated from Sanford Site


Good Morning Luke,

Kindly assist the customer below.

Best Regards
Tina

-----Original Message-----
From: MCCLUSKIE, Mary
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:07 AM
To: Man, Tina
Subject: FW: Contact us Email Generated from Sanford Site

Tina

Can you advise this customer.

Thanks

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: Ada Ma
Sent: 01 December 2004 21:33
To: MCCLUSKIE, Mary
Subject: Contact us Email Generated from Sanford Site



I am wondering if Parker has a website in Chinese for mainlain China?
Also I have heard the Parker Penman ink is now in production again, but
this time is made in China. Is this information correct?",""