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Old August 23rd 03, 05:42 PM
Ron B.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

Probably a scam. Zero feedback and a private auction. But the
starting bid is low enough for someone to take a chance, and the
seller knows it.

Think I'll watch the auction to see how many people bid, and what the
final price is.

Ron

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Old August 29th 03, 04:40 PM
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Ron B. wrote in message . ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

Probably a scam. Zero feedback and a private auction. But the
starting bid is low enough for someone to take a chance, and the
seller knows it.

Think I'll watch the auction to see how many people bid, and what the
final price is.


What's even more interesting is if you go back and look at his first
auction for that card. Amazing how the condition worsened from the
first to the second.
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Old August 31st 03, 06:16 AM
Ron B.
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On 29 Aug 2003 08:40:54 -0700, (jpeabody) wrote:

Ron B. wrote in message . ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

Probably a scam. Zero feedback and a private auction. But the
starting bid is low enough for someone to take a chance, and the
seller knows it.

Think I'll watch the auction to see how many people bid, and what the
final price is.


What's even more interesting is if you go back and look at his first
auction for that card. Amazing how the condition worsened from the
first to the second.


I spent a fair amount of time checking things out a week ago, and then
monitoring his second auction. At least he was honest in the first
auction, and said that the card in the picture wasn't the actual card
he was selling. He said it was because his scanner wasn't working.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749016143

He canceled the first auction after one day, and started the second
one four days later. This one had a picture of the actual card. He
still had a starting bid of $100, but it was a private auction, and it
said in the description that he was selling it as a reprint because he
wasn't sure if it was real. But then he went on to say how he found
it in a trunk amongst other old documents, photos, and newspaper
clippings. They were in the background of his new photo, and they
were from the late 1940s and early 1950s. He claimed he was going to
put them up for auction too, but he still hasn't done it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

The high bid was in the upper $800s after three days. The bid count
was 18, but the history page indicates there were only 7 or 8 bidders
competing against each other. He finally canceled the auction after
four days. The official explanation was that the card was no longer
available for sale.

The only other card he ever tried to sell on eBay was a graded 1985
Kirby Puckett. So he's aware of card grading. And since he's selling
on eBay, you'd think he was capable of doing a search and seeing the
big bucks a real '52 Mantle should sell for. Even one that looks like
these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2748720356

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749764534

So things just don't add up. If he really did find it the way he did,
wouldn't he have gotten it graded or authenticated, and sold it as the
genuine article? Or if he thought it was a reprint, why would he have
a starting bid of $100? And why would he prefer a private auction?

Also - doesn't the seller in the auction below write in a strangely
similar manner to the seller in this thread? And notice how he said
he's selling it as a reprint, but he had a starting bid way out of
line for a reprint. Same "MO" - after the buyer discovers it's a
reprint, he can't get his money back because the seller described it
as such. The only difference is that he trimmed the corners back and
added a crease to make it look old.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2747516540

Ron
("He'll be back . . .")

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Old September 1st 03, 04:12 AM
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Wait....somebody actually paid over $1,300 for that reprint with the
cut corners? Did anybody beat me at getting in touch with the buyer
about a bridge for sale?



Ron B. wrote in message . ..
On 29 Aug 2003 08:40:54 -0700, (jpeabody) wrote:

Ron B. wrote in message . ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

Probably a scam. Zero feedback and a private auction. But the
starting bid is low enough for someone to take a chance, and the
seller knows it.

Think I'll watch the auction to see how many people bid, and what the
final price is.


What's even more interesting is if you go back and look at his first
auction for that card. Amazing how the condition worsened from the
first to the second.


I spent a fair amount of time checking things out a week ago, and then
monitoring his second auction. At least he was honest in the first
auction, and said that the card in the picture wasn't the actual card
he was selling. He said it was because his scanner wasn't working.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749016143

He canceled the first auction after one day, and started the second
one four days later. This one had a picture of the actual card. He
still had a starting bid of $100, but it was a private auction, and it
said in the description that he was selling it as a reprint because he
wasn't sure if it was real. But then he went on to say how he found
it in a trunk amongst other old documents, photos, and newspaper
clippings. They were in the background of his new photo, and they
were from the late 1940s and early 1950s. He claimed he was going to
put them up for auction too, but he still hasn't done it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749170314

The high bid was in the upper $800s after three days. The bid count
was 18, but the history page indicates there were only 7 or 8 bidders
competing against each other. He finally canceled the auction after
four days. The official explanation was that the card was no longer
available for sale.

The only other card he ever tried to sell on eBay was a graded 1985
Kirby Puckett. So he's aware of card grading. And since he's selling
on eBay, you'd think he was capable of doing a search and seeing the
big bucks a real '52 Mantle should sell for. Even one that looks like
these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2748720356

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2749764534

So things just don't add up. If he really did find it the way he did,
wouldn't he have gotten it graded or authenticated, and sold it as the
genuine article? Or if he thought it was a reprint, why would he have
a starting bid of $100? And why would he prefer a private auction?

Also - doesn't the seller in the auction below write in a strangely
similar manner to the seller in this thread? And notice how he said
he's selling it as a reprint, but he had a starting bid way out of
line for a reprint. Same "MO" - after the buyer discovers it's a
reprint, he can't get his money back because the seller described it
as such. The only difference is that he trimmed the corners back and
added a crease to make it look old.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2747516540

Ron
("He'll be back . . .")

 




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