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Does anyone care to share their opinion on whether this seller is
auctioning authentic vintage cards or not?

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwal...cruiterQQhtZ-1

Thanks,
Ron

Does anyone care to share their opinion on whether this seller is
auctioning authentic vintage cards or not?

The auction says that authenticity is not assured.
Think someone dirtied up some reprints?

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:05:35 -0800, "Rich Davis"
wrote:

Does anyone care to share their opinion on whether this seller is
auctioning authentic vintage cards or not?

The auction says that authenticity is not assured.
Think someone dirtied up some reprints?


It's possible. If they are reprints, they've been doctored to look
old and used. There's even gum stains on the back of the 1951 Mantle.
The red flags I see include the private auctions, the fact that none
of have been graded. and the low "buy it now" prices.

On the other hand, except for the private auctions it also has the
markings of a "fire sale" where someone needs the cash quick. The
seller has been on eBay for year, unlike most of the others who try to
pass off reprints as real. He has good feedback. And most of the
cards look authentic.

With a nice collection like this, someone would be far better off
getting them graded (and thereby authenticated) before selling. Then
they should sell them in individual auctions instead of in lots. The
way they're selling will guarantee the least return.

Ron

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:05:35 -0800, "Rich Davis"
wrote:

Does anyone care to share their opinion on whether this seller is
auctioning authentic vintage cards or not?

The auction says that authenticity is not assured.
Think someone dirtied up some reprints?


All the cards are gone now. I might be a great big fool, but I bought
a 1951 Bowman Mantle from him. The darned thing just looks real to
me. Call it a gamble. I'll have it authenticated and see if I won or
lost. I can live with the results either way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=5166225 333

Ron

Good morning Ron.I wish you the best with the Mantle.But I already was
burned by these same cards.From a different person who was unaware himself.I
purchased a Mantle rookie,Robinson rookie,Namath rookie,and a 38 Goudey Joe
Dimagio.When I had them authenticated they were all counterfeits.According
to the person/company that authenticated the cards that I had received.It
was and probably still is a scam that has been going on for a while.The
counterfeits originated in Florida and are being sold in a few other major
outlets in the U.S.One being California and another in Hawaii.Hawaii is
where I got mine.But like I say,good luck.Thanks,Winston.

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Does anyone care to share their opinion on whether this seller is
auctioning authentic vintage cards or not?

The auction says that authenticity is not assured.
Think someone dirtied up some reprints?


All the cards are gone now. I might be a great big fool, but I bought
a 1951 Bowman Mantle from him. The darned thing just looks real to
me. Call it a gamble. I'll have it authenticated and see if I won or
lost. I can live with the results either way.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=5166225 333

Ron

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:48:39 GMT, "winston b.hart"
wrote:

Good morning Ron.I wish you the best with the Mantle.But I already was
burned by these same cards.From a different person who was unaware himself.I
purchased a Mantle rookie,Robinson rookie,Namath rookie,and a 38 Goudey Joe
Dimagio.When I had them authenticated they were all counterfeits.According
to the person/company that authenticated the cards that I had received.It
was and probably still is a scam that has been going on for a while.The
counterfeits originated in Florida and are being sold in a few other major
outlets in the U.S.One being California and another in Hawaii.Hawaii is
where I got mine.But like I say,good luck.Thanks,Winston.


I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here. If they're fake,
they're outright counterfeits or forgeries, designed to look old and
real. An honest seller could pass them on unawares. It's definitely
"buyer beware" with some the more expensive vintage cards. The best
policy is to buy them slabbed from trusted and knowledgeable dealers.

Ron