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Old December 30th 06, 03:10 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Dave Hinz
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Default Type set conundrum

Those of you who are doing a type set, do you put your key date coin for
the series in there, or do you put the best example of the series you
can find in there, or something else? Where do the key dates go, and
what's your thinking for it?

In my mind, having, say, a 1972 DDO cent in there for the Lincoln
Memorial cent is more interesting than some random MS69 zincoln, for
instance. Not that I have either right now but I'm trying to plan
ahead. Looking at my type set, for some it's easy (I only _have_ one
silver trime), but for coins where I also have a book, I'm kind of
undecided. Any thoughts? "Do it how you like", I know, I'm just
curious to see what other folks like or don't like about how they're
doing it. I don't have a lot of stress about cracking open slabs to
populate the books, but until I decide which one they're going in, the
coins are staying in the slabs. I don't want to handle some of those
more than I need to.

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Old December 30th 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Bruce Remick
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Default Type set conundrum


"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...
Those of you who are doing a type set, do you put your key date coin for
the series in there, or do you put the best example of the series you
can find in there, or something else? Where do the key dates go, and
what's your thinking for it?

In my mind, having, say, a 1972 DDO cent in there for the Lincoln
Memorial cent is more interesting than some random MS69 zincoln, for
instance. Not that I have either right now but I'm trying to plan
ahead. Looking at my type set, for some it's easy (I only _have_ one
silver trime), but for coins where I also have a book, I'm kind of
undecided. Any thoughts? "Do it how you like", I know, I'm just
curious to see what other folks like or don't like about how they're
doing it. I don't have a lot of stress about cracking open slabs to
populate the books, but until I decide which one they're going in, the
coins are staying in the slabs. I don't want to handle some of those
more than I need to.


The coins in my 20th Century type set are highest grade examples I can
afford, and as such, this usually eliminates the key dates from
consideration. An AU brown 1955 DDO would look out of place among its
bright red sister Lincolns, even though it might be more interesting. But
even if the DDO were MS65R, I would prefer to keep it separate from my type
set. I also like uniformity in my type set, so I have selected coins all in
one particular company's slab.

With a 19th century type set, I would try for as much uniformity in
appearance as possible, and would still probably prefer to have the coins in
slabs rather than raw in 2x2's or albums. I never had much luck with BU
coins in albums staying BU, especially Gem BU coppers.

Bruce



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Old December 30th 06, 11:04 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default Type set conundrum


Bruce Remick wrote:
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...
Those of you who are doing a type set, do you put your key date coin for
the series in there, or do you put the best example of the series you
can find in there, or something else? Where do the key dates go, and
what's your thinking for it?

In my mind, having, say, a 1972 DDO cent in there for the Lincoln
Memorial cent is more interesting than some random MS69 zincoln, for
instance. Not that I have either right now but I'm trying to plan
ahead. Looking at my type set, for some it's easy (I only _have_ one
silver trime), but for coins where I also have a book, I'm kind of
undecided. Any thoughts? "Do it how you like", I know, I'm just
curious to see what other folks like or don't like about how they're
doing it. I don't have a lot of stress about cracking open slabs to
populate the books, but until I decide which one they're going in, the
coins are staying in the slabs. I don't want to handle some of those
more than I need to.


The coins in my 20th Century type set are highest grade examples I can
afford, and as such, this usually eliminates the key dates from
consideration. An AU brown 1955 DDO would look out of place among its
bright red sister Lincolns, even though it might be more interesting. But
even if the DDO were MS65R, I would prefer to keep it separate from my type
set. I also like uniformity in my type set, so I have selected coins all in
one particular company's slab.

With a 19th century type set, I would try for as much uniformity in
appearance as possible, and would still probably prefer to have the coins in
slabs rather than raw in 2x2's or albums. I never had much luck with BU
coins in albums staying BU, especially Gem BU coppers.

Bruce



Nickels don't stay BU either--depending on the album and how many times
it gets handled.
Actually most collections do not match at all. It takes a huge amount
of effort to get a whole set to match unless it's a short series.
But it really looks bad seeing a BU Kennedy on the same page as a G-VG
Bust half--which is what most people will do.

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Old December 31st 06, 04:34 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default Type set conundrum

8-------------------------
Nickels don't stay BU either--depending on the album and how many times
it gets handled.
Actually most collections do not match at all. It takes a huge amount
of effort to get a whole set to match unless it's a short series.
But it really looks bad seeing a BU Kennedy on the same page as a G-VG
Bust half--which is what most people will do.


I think it looks fine to see a BU modern coin next to an aged old coin...

but I also certainly understand that beauty is an 'eye of the beerholder'
type thing.

I suppose you would really hate my set, as I even used PROOF's for the
modern coins on the modern page w/ the sae.
--
dw
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Old December 31st 06, 02:42 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Bruce Remick
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Default Type set conundrum


"linxlvr" wrote in message
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8-------------------------
Nickels don't stay BU either--depending on the album and how many times
it gets handled.
Actually most collections do not match at all. It takes a huge amount
of effort to get a whole set to match unless it's a short series.
But it really looks bad seeing a BU Kennedy on the same page as a G-VG
Bust half--which is what most people will do.


I think it looks fine to see a BU modern coin next to an aged old coin...

but I also certainly understand that beauty is an 'eye of the beerholder'
type thing.

I suppose you would really hate my set, as I even used PROOF's for the
modern coins on the modern page w/ the sae.
--
dw


In my set, I would prefer to have an AU or MS 1917 quarter representing its
type than an AG 1916. A set containing only keys for each type would be a
budget buster for most of us. However, I could appreciate a type set with
the coins all in the Fine-VF range -- even a 20th century set. A "common
man" assortment of spent coins.

Bruce






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Old January 8th 07, 10:50 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
gogu
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Default Type set conundrum

Ο "Bruce Remick" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
...

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message
...
Those of you who are doing a type set, do you put your key date coin for
the series in there, or do you put the best example of the series you
can find in there, or something else? Where do the key dates go, and
what's your thinking for it?

In my mind, having, say, a 1972 DDO cent in there for the Lincoln
Memorial cent is more interesting than some random MS69 zincoln, for
instance. Not that I have either right now but I'm trying to plan
ahead. Looking at my type set, for some it's easy (I only _have_ one
silver trime), but for coins where I also have a book, I'm kind of
undecided. Any thoughts? "Do it how you like", I know, I'm just
curious to see what other folks like or don't like about how they're
doing it. I don't have a lot of stress about cracking open slabs to
populate the books, but until I decide which one they're going in, the
coins are staying in the slabs. I don't want to handle some of those
more than I need to.



The coins in my 20th Century type set are highest grade examples I can
afford, and as such, this usually eliminates the key dates from
consideration. An AU brown 1955 DDO would look out of place among its
bright red sister Lincolns, even though it might be more interesting. But
even if the DDO were MS65R, I would prefer to keep it separate from my
type set. I also like uniformity in my type set, so I have selected coins
all in one particular company's slab.



That's *exactly* how I am building my 20th century type set:-)
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317444392

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E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A

Coins, travels and mo http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html

With a 19th century type set, I would try for as much uniformity in
appearance as possible, and would still probably prefer to have the coins
in slabs rather than raw in 2x2's or albums. I never had much luck with
BU coins in albums staying BU, especially Gem BU coppers.

Bruce




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Old January 9th 07, 04:43 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:50:10 +0200, "gogu"
wrote:

--snip---

That's *exactly* how I am building my 20th century type set:-)
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317444392


Nice, this is the sort of thing I am planning to do and hope to get
too soon.

Been working too much on my modern commemoratives, trying to pick up
the keys first (before I run out of cash). Not getting very far
though. This is much tougher than I had expected.

-- Ron K
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Old January 9th 07, 08:21 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
gogu
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Default Type set conundrum

? "ronrpk" ?????? ??? ??????
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:50:10 +0200, "gogu"
wrote:

--snip---

That's *exactly* how I am building my 20th century type set:-)
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317444392



Nice, this is the sort of thing I am planning to do and hope to get
too soon.


Thanks, I wish you luck:-)

Been working too much on my modern commemoratives, trying to pick up
the keys first (before I run out of cash).


Well, in a type set it's not obligatory to have any "key dates", that's the
beauty of the type set;-)
But in a modern commem collection, yes, you must have all of them.
Now I have the full line of the modern (silver) proof commems but until I've
completed the set I've spend a good deal of cash, so I understand you:-)
The collection I had to spend the most cash though was my Canadian $100 gold
commems and the collection of Sovereign size world gold coins...
This hobby is getting more and more expensive...
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317442172
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317443950

Not getting very far
though. This is much tougher than I had expected.


Indeed!
About 5 years ago I decided to collect Morgan dollars and I said "what the
heck, I don't want the best grades so it should be easy to put together a
nice complete set"!!!
Well, guess what!
After I bought the common dates my set is still incomplete;-)
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/golanule...60762317443039
(coins after 1890 still not scanned...)

rgrds

PS
A few months ago I've calculated that from my first coin purchase until
now I have spend more than 40,000 euros on coins and still spending:-(
That could be the college money for my son or my daughter here...


--

E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A

Coins, travels and mo http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html


-- Ron K



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Old December 30th 06, 08:13 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
linxlvr
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:10:02 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

Those of you who are doing a type set, do you put your key date coin for
the series in there, or do you put the best example of the series you
can find in there, or something else? Where do the key dates go, and
what's your thinking for it?

8------------------------------------------

IMHO
My suggestion is this:
a) Decide how much you want to invest in your type set
b) Decide what you want your type set to include.

If I decide as an answer to 'a' as 3,000 USD, and an answer to 'b' as a
Dansco type album, you can forget keys.

I order to get around the VG seated dollar next to the MS Morgan kind of
issue, you could do something like pre 1875 in F, 1876-1925 VF, 1925-1950
XF, 1951 MS.

Personally I prefer albums much more than slabs.

I think it would be neat if you had the money to do all key dates, and if
you were looking at it as an investment also, it would be great. I
personally think the whole point of type set compiliation though is to
represent a 'type' of coin, and thus the best example of it (condition
wise) merits the greatest consideration.

--
dw
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Old December 30th 06, 09:20 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Amistad
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Default Type set conundrum

"linxlvr" dropped by with some cogent insight, in part:
I personally think the whole point of type set compiliation though is to
represent a 'type' of coin, and thus the best example of it (condition
wise) merits the greatest consideration.


Well stated, ol' chap! And precisely the way that I also opt to look at
it...

Amistad
'make mine a nicely detailed one, even if it's a cheapy'


 




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