If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't
say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
[Default] On Sat, 20 May 2006 13:02:04 GMT, "Amistad"
climbed to the top of the minaret and sang out: Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' I would say nicks are acceptable on an AG coin (and those coins are definitely AG at best, especially the reverses. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"Amistad" wrote in message ... Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' In my view, rim nicks are not acceptable on coins of any grade. Well, maybe I could tolerate a rim nick on an R-5 or scarcer coin. Anyway, who knows at what point the coin acquired the damage? It could have happened on its first trip from bag into daylight. Saying that a rim issue or any issue other than wear is consistent with the grade is sales hype. While it is true that the longer a coin stays in circulation, the more exposure it has to damage, you can find plenty of coins that are real low down, but have no damage other than wear. Mr. Jaggers 'thus endeth the lesson for today' |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"Amistad" wrote in message ... Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' Holy-moley who's that seller kidding?? Way too much money for those. Fr2's according to my handy-dandy grading guide w/pics. An 1892O in a real low grade like that is a $15-$20 coin at best while a '97S with a PO1 reverse is around $20. Some people sheesh! |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"Amistad" wrote in message ... Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' In the UK a rim nick would have no effect on the grade given but it would be mentioned separately, e.g. "vf but with rim nick at 9 o'clock on obverse". This is the only way that a rim nicked coin can be accurately described. Obviously it would be priced lower than a coin in the same grade with no rim nick. Billy |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"bri" wrote in message nk.net... "Amistad" wrote in message ... Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) Amistad 'after all, what's a nick or two between friends?' Holy-moley who's that seller kidding?? Way too much money for those. Fr2's according to my handy-dandy grading guide w/pics. An 1892O in a real low grade like that is a $15-$20 coin at best while a '97S with a PO1 reverse is around $20. Some people sheesh! Oh well I tried to get the price down for you. It just never works does it? ;-) I regards to your original question what you need for a rim nick is one of those tight fitting 2x2's. Because finding any in that grade that don't have rim hits is pretty near darn hard. FWIK the larger the ding the lower the grade drops and a rim hit is worth 4X damage compared to a similar hit anywhere else except the cheek. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"Tony Clayton" wrote in message ... In a recent message "Amistad" wrote: Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) I would be surprised if such well worn coins did not have a nick or two, and, let's face it, they are hardly going to detract from the coin. Personally I would rather NOT have such worn coins in my collection even if they 'filled a gap' I suspect that there is a fundamental difference between British collectors and U.S. collectors. Over here there is a long tradition, going back to the 1930s, of the use of devices to form and store collections, be they called coin folders (which sold for 35 cents when I was a kid) or coin albums (more expensive, as they allow both sides of the coins to show). Whitman Publishing made some 35c folders for collections of British coins of all denominations, but something tells me they weren't intended to be exported to your country, but rather to be used by Americans who had an accumulation of pennies and sixpences that came here with tourists and soldiers, and that otherwise would have knocked about loose in a drawer. Thus, we have more of an urgency to "fill gaps." Some of those gaps are very expensive to fill, indeed. If I want to fill all the gaps, then, in my Barber half collection, and am an ordinary guy with an ordinary income, some of the coins just have to be pretty low down. On the other hand, we don't indiscriminately buy the first thing that comes along. The rim problems on the coin in the auction in question, while not necessarily being "surprising," are more serious than most of us will or should tolerate, because we know that there are coins out there in that state of preservation that do not have any damage at all. Finding problem-free coins is part of the romance of collecting, whether one is in the MS crowd or the AG crowd. As for me, of course, I'd rather be part of the MS crowd, but when it comes to finding, paying for, and owning a Sheldon-264 large cent, About Good will just have to do. Mr. Jaggers |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
In a recent message "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
"Tony Clayton" wrote in message ... In a recent message "Amistad" wrote: Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) I would be surprised if such well worn coins did not have a nick or two, and, let's face it, they are hardly going to detract from the coin. Personally I would rather NOT have such worn coins in my collection even if they 'filled a gap' I suspect that there is a fundamental difference between British collectors and U.S. collectors. Over here there is a long tradition, going back to the 1930s, of the use of devices to form and store collections, be they called coin folders (which sold for 35 cents when I was a kid) or coin albums (more expensive, as they allow both sides of the coins to show). Whitman Publishing made some 35c folders for collections of British coins of all denominations, but something tells me they weren't intended to be exported to your country, but rather to be used by Americans who had an accumulation of pennies and sixpences that came here with tourists and soldiers, and that otherwise would have knocked about loose in a drawer. Thus, we have more of an urgency to "fill gaps." Some of those gaps are very expensive to fill, indeed. If I want to fill all the gaps, then, in my Barber half collection, and am an ordinary guy with an ordinary income, some of the coins just have to be pretty low down. Agreed. That is how I started to collect coins. I was in Canada for several months back in 1962, and on my travels visited the Royal Canadian Mint. On leaving the Mint I passed a coin shop that had Whitman folders for Canadian coins, so I thought it would be a good idea to fill each folder, as a way of saving; the intention was to bank a set when complete and start again! I then found out how difficult it was to find some items like 5 cents of 1925, 1926, 1943 etc. The bug bit. I never did cash in those coins (although sold most when financing a house move in 1978). Now I tend to concentrate on ancients and types; the only date sets I collect are Canadian silver 5 cent coins, and with those I would rather have a gap than a coin as worn as those under discussion. Indeed, I make a point of ONLY acquiring the 5 cents in the UK, and not from overseas as I do not buy coins on Ebay. -- Tony Clayton Coins of the UK : http://www.coinsoftheuk.info Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC .... I still miss my ex-wife - but my aim is improving! |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Rim Nicks
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Tony Clayton" wrote in message ... In a recent message "Amistad" wrote: Just now happened across a coin whose description caught my eye. I can't say that I previously knew of any coin grading regimen that allows for rim nicks being commensurate with the grade. Have a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Scarce-Barber-...temZ8422047521 My question is -- what grades are rim nicks acceptable on? Come on, comrades. Educate me! ;-) I would be surprised if such well worn coins did not have a nick or two, and, let's face it, they are hardly going to detract from the coin. Personally I would rather NOT have such worn coins in my collection even if they 'filled a gap' I suspect that there is a fundamental difference between British collectors and U.S. collectors. Over here there is a long tradition, going back to the 1930s, of the use of devices to form and store collections, be they called coin folders (which sold for 35 cents when I was a kid) or coin albums (more expensive, as they allow both sides of the coins to show). Whitman Publishing made some 35c folders for collections of British coins of all denominations, but something tells me they weren't intended to be exported to your country, but rather to be used by Americans who had an accumulation of pennies and sixpences that came here with tourists and soldiers, and that otherwise would have knocked about loose in a drawer. Thus, we have more of an urgency to "fill gaps." Some of those gaps are very expensive to fill, indeed. If I want to fill all the gaps, then, in my Barber half collection, and am an ordinary guy with an ordinary income, some of the coins just have to be pretty low down. On the other hand, we don't indiscriminately buy the first thing that comes along. The rim problems on the coin in the auction in question, while not necessarily being "surprising," are more serious than most of us will or should tolerate, because we know that there are coins out there in that state of preservation that do not have any damage at all. Finding problem-free coins is part of the romance of collecting, whether one is in the MS crowd or the AG crowd. As for me, of course, I'd rather be part of the MS crowd, but when it comes to finding, paying for, and owning a Sheldon-264 large cent, About Good will just have to do. Mr. Jaggers In the run up to decimalisation in the UK in 1971 Whitman folders were freely available for denominations up to one shilling, I don't recall seeing any above one shilling denomination probably as removing anything above one shilling from circulation would have been a big investment for a youngster back then. Halfpenny and one penny would have been the popular ones. I still have my folders and they still have gaps. Billy |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FS:Buffalo Nicks | [email protected] | Coins | 0 | January 15th 06 10:07 PM |
FA: War Nicks, Walkers, Silver - Inexpensive | Doc | Coins | 0 | February 19th 05 03:23 AM |
FA:8 DIFF ROLLS JEFF NICKS NICE CIRC | Jackson | Coins | 0 | May 22nd 04 05:58 AM |
New nicks and proofs | JOPN | Coins | 3 | March 7th 04 05:21 PM |