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Old March 1st 10, 08:22 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default Belgium query.


Does anybody have proof the "pizza wheel" was EVER used as a pre-cancel,
or is that old wives tales?


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Old March 1st 10, 03:45 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair (TC)
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Default Belgium query.

On Mar 1, 2:22*am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
Does anybody have proof the "pizza wheel" was EVER used as a pre-cancel,
or is that old wives tales?


hi Rodney:

you may want to pick up a copy of one of:

Date Title Editor/Publisher

1937 Les Timbre Preobliteres de Belgique 1894-1937 A. Hye DeCrom
1951 Catalogue des Preos d'Europe Jean Lepingle
1977 Liste Des Timbres Preobliteres de Belgique
1980 Catalogue des Preos Belges Lepingle/Morlion
1980 Vademecum of Belgium Precancels Dutch Study Group
1994 Catalogus der Belgische Voorafstempeligen 1894-1994 Dutch Study
Group
1997 Catelogue Officiel des Timbres Preobiliteres de Belgique,
1894-1996

Blair
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Old March 1st 10, 04:25 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default Belgium query.

Thanks Blair,
so it's a trip to the club's library first, see what we have under Belgium.
I can also ask Tracy, he may have some Belgian cats.
Cheers



"Blair (TC)"
hi Rodney:

you may want to pick up a copy of one of:

Date Title Editor/Publisher

1937 Les Timbre Preobliteres de Belgique 1894-1937 A. Hye DeCrom
1951 Catalogue des Preos d'Europe Jean Lepingle
1977 Liste Des Timbres Preobliteres de Belgique
1980 Catalogue des Preos Belges Lepingle/Morlion
1980 Vademecum of Belgium Precancels Dutch Study Group
1994 Catalogus der Belgische Voorafstempeligen 1894-1994 Dutch Study
Group
1997 Catelogue Officiel des Timbres Preobiliteres de Belgique,
1894-1996

Blair


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Old March 13th 10, 11:24 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Default Belgium query.


Thanks Ryan,
from advice elsewhere, this seems to confirm they were not
used as precancels.
Thanks for you assistance.
rodney

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Blair (TC) wrote:
On Mar 1, 2:22 am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
Does anybody have proof the "pizza wheel" was EVER used as a pre-cancel,
or is that old wives tales?


hi Rodney:

you may want to pick up a copy of one of:

Date Title Editor/Publisher

1937 Les Timbre Preobliteres de Belgique 1894-1937 A. Hye DeCrom
1951 Catalogue des Preos d'Europe Jean Lepingle
1977 Liste Des Timbres Preobliteres de Belgique
1980 Catalogue des Preos Belges Lepingle/Morlion
1980 Vademecum of Belgium Precancels Dutch Study Group
1994 Catalogus der Belgische Voorafstempeligen 1894-1994 Dutch Study
Group
1997 Catelogue Officiel des Timbres Preobiliteres de Belgique,
1894-1996

Blair


My copy of the last mentioned precancel catalogue above contains no reference (that I can find) to the "pizza
wheel".
My 2007 "Officiële Belgische Postzegelcatalogus" contains the following text (presented in the original - I
struggle with Dutch / Flemish, similar enough to German that I can sort of figure it out but different enough that I'm
never too sure):

"Vanaf 10-12-1869 treft men roulette afstempelingen aan van de spaarkas om zegels te ontwaarden." (accompanied by
graphic of the cancellation)

Best guess is that this means the cancellation began in December 1869, used on stamps cancelled at the post office
savings bank.
This article on Belgian precancels mentions the savings bank cancellation only in regard to being a second cancel,
similar to US precancels that then get a regular postal cancellation stamped over top of them.

http://www.precancels.com/foreign/belgium688.htm

Ryan



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Old March 13th 10, 11:38 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Ryan Davenport
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Default Belgium query.

Blair (TC) wrote:
On Mar 1, 2:22 am, "rodney" pookiethai@NOSPAM iprimus.com.au wrote:
Does anybody have proof the "pizza wheel" was EVER used as a pre-cancel,
or is that old wives tales?


hi Rodney:

you may want to pick up a copy of one of:

Date Title Editor/Publisher

1937 Les Timbre Preobliteres de Belgique 1894-1937 A. Hye DeCrom
1951 Catalogue des Preos d'Europe Jean Lepingle
1977 Liste Des Timbres Preobliteres de Belgique
1980 Catalogue des Preos Belges Lepingle/Morlion
1980 Vademecum of Belgium Precancels Dutch Study Group
1994 Catalogus der Belgische Voorafstempeligen 1894-1994 Dutch Study
Group
1997 Catelogue Officiel des Timbres Preobiliteres de Belgique,
1894-1996

Blair


My copy of the last mentioned precancel catalogue above contains no
reference (that I can find) to the "pizza wheel".
My 2007 "Officiële Belgische Postzegelcatalogus" contains the
following text (presented in the original - I struggle with Dutch /
Flemish, similar enough to German that I can sort of figure it out but
different enough that I'm never too sure):

"Vanaf 10-12-1869 treft men roulette afstempelingen aan van de spaarkas
om zegels te ontwaarden." (accompanied by graphic of the cancellation)

Best guess is that this means the cancellation began in December
1869, used on stamps cancelled at the post office savings bank.
This article on Belgian precancels mentions the savings bank
cancellation only in regard to being a second cancel, similar to US
precancels that then get a regular postal cancellation stamped over top
of them.

http://www.precancels.com/foreign/belgium688.htm

Ryan
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Old December 13th 10, 09:30 PM
lami lami is offline
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Je voit une quantiter de catalogue sur les preos belge enumerer ci-dessous
Si je comprend ils sont dans une blibliotheque

J'aimerai mettre mes timbres en ordres

C'est possible de consulter ses catalogues par le net?
ou eventuellement de les charger en PDF?

Remerciement pour m'avoir lu et une eventuelle reponse

Bonne fin d'année

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Date Title Editor/Publisher

1937 Les Timbre Preobliteres de Belgique 1894-1937 A. Hye DeCrom
1951 Catalogue des Preos d'Europe Jean Lepingle
1977 Liste Des Timbres Preobliteres de Belgique
1980 Catalogue des Preos Belges Lepingle/Morlion
1980 Vademecum of Belgium Precancels Dutch Study Group
1994 Catalogus der Belgische Voorafstempeligen 1894-1994 Dutch Study
Group
1997 Catelogue Officiel des Timbres Preobiliteres de Belgique,
1894-1996

Blair[/quote]
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Old December 22nd 10, 11:07 PM
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Hi Rodney

Are you the same Rod and from Australia that is in the SCF?

If so, I am the same Bujutsu from there G

Chimo

Bujutsu
 




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