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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:42:32 +0000 (UTC), "Nigel"
found these unused words floating about: J. A. Mc. wrote in message .. . On 07 Jul 2003 19:52:05 GMT, unity (DBoyd001) found these unused words floating about: Hope this winning bidder looked at the terms.....$5.00 Handling for EACH auction won! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2938575759 My first complain would be the description as "F-XF"! Then he describes it as poor centering! Would this stamp be classed "Good" at best or am I missing something? Then there is the $5 handling charge-- EACH AUCTION, then he admonishes to bid accordingly. I'd bid.. not at all with those sort of material and terms. I wonder how many repeat buyers he gets. I can picture that the $5 handling charge would ensure delivery to the buyer in an envelope with a 37c stamp on it (probably not even a commemorative either). Since the buyer is also in NY I wouldn't doubt he'll insist on the state sales tax be included as well. The ones I love are those who have to have cashier's checks or USPS Money Orders for small items ... G Then there's the UK group that prices in £, demands PayPay in US$ at their 'exchange rate'. Ehhh, that probably equals PP's surcharges. What do you mean by group? I hope you don't find all of us UK sellers so unhelpful. I list in GB Pounds, as that's where I am, but I'm happy to take PayPal in GB Pounds, or US Dollars at a flat $1.50 to the Pound with no extra PayPal fee. I use $1.50 as it's a nice simple exchange rate, even though it works to your benefit as the true rate is nearer $1.60 I would mention my ebay seller id, but I don't think that's the done thing in this newsgroup. Nigel There seems to be a 'group' of sellers from the UK that have the same or very similar 'terms'. Perhaps one copied from another. Don't know, but certainly not -all- UK sellers are in that league, just as not all US sellers are XX or YY or ZZ! "Group" implies more than one participant, but never should be construed as "all". |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:36:18 GMT, Bob Ingraham
found these unused words floating about: From: J. A. Mc. Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:35:57 -0700 Subject: Always Read the 'Small Print' on Ebay On 07 Jul 2003 19:52:05 GMT, unity (DBoyd001) found these unused words floating about: Hope this winning bidder looked at the terms.....$5.00 Handling for EACH auction won! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2938575759 My first complain would be the description as "F-XF"! Then he describes it as poor centering! Would this stamp be classed "Good" at best or am I missing something? Then there is the $5 handling charge-- EACH AUCTION, then he admonishes to bid accordingly. I'd bid.. not at all with those sort of material and terms. I wonder how many repeat buyers he gets. I can picture that the $5 handling charge would ensure delivery to the buyer in an envelope with a 37c stamp on it (probably not even a commemorative either). Since the buyer is also in NY I wouldn't doubt he'll insist on the state sales tax be included as well. I think this guy subscribes to the improved SCOTT Grading System. I think it runs: F, VF, XVF, XF, VXF, NS, S, VS, XS, VXS. BSEG What happened to VG -- which always struck me as being dumb in the extreme. What is "Very Good" about a stamp that has perfs cutting into the design? It was a TIC response Bob! SCOTT seems to feel that the truly average copy should be called VF. So in order to 'grade' for price, dealers are popping 'extra' grade steps. I was just taking the "Mickey" out of the whole silly process. If it's an average copy (bell curve of the issue) then it should be called "AVG." Very Fine should imply a copy that's well above the usual and nearly a perfect item. "Superb" or "Gem" would be used only for one 1 in 10,000 copies - if that ! Unfortunately the yuppies can't stand the idea of being/having an 'average' anything so we have to create a new vocabulary to describe things. This is the "Feel Good" period where plain facts aren't wanted. See my post to Tracy about 'dual' grading. |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:35:36 GMT, (Tracy
Barber) wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:35:57 -0700, J. A. Mc. wrote: On 07 Jul 2003 19:52:05 GMT, unity (DBoyd001) found these unused words floating about: I think this guy subscribes to the improved SCOTT Grading System. I think it runs: F, VF, XVF, XF, VXF, NS, S, VS, XS, VXS. BSEG What's "S" - Sicko? :^P S = superb Blair -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:00:22 GMT, Bob Ingraham
wrote: Oh, and by the way, about that stamp on eBay: isn't that a revenue cancel? I don't think anyone has mentioned that. Or am I wrong? Aha! Lessee... which stamp, Bob? The entire box or what? This one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2938575759 Bob Looks like a Registered Mail cancel to me. AFAIK postage stamps were not generally used for revenue purposes in the USA. Blair -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:25:42 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:29:40 GMT, (Tracy Barber) found these unused words floating about: On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:07:12 -0400, "Doug Spade" wrote: "Tracy Barber" wrote in message ... snip Jumping from F to XF is a REAL red light. It goes F - VF - XF. It can never be F and XF at the same time. :^) While I don't condone it (and don't agree with it), I've seen some stamps being sold by well-known names in the industry described as "Ave-XF" with the "justification" being that it was extremely well-centered on three sides, with perfs cutting well into the design on the fourth side. Then again, I've also seen stamps described as F-VF that I would consider outstandingly (although admittedly with narrow margins) well-centered. Some issues are only what you describe in scenario 1. I surely wouldn't consider it XF though. Maybe VF. A stamp can border on 2 grade levels but cannot skip a grade level, like your Avg / XF example. Is it averagely XF - which has to be an oxymoron - or XF average? It doesn't make any sense. Sounds like someone wants to build up a description for it. The 2nd scenario lends itself to the margin issue. XF stamps usually have a "decent" margin, unles they were all close cropped stamps and didn't have much space between them when printed. That's an issue by issue check, not a blanket statement. That's why the drop in condition to VF. A nice example to keep, for sure! Tracy Barber Frankly I'd love to see a 'dual' grade ... letters A, F, VF, S for physical condition, then a "-1" to "-5" for centering. E.G.: A sound stamp with clean full perfs, no efects, but slightly off center ... VF-3 -or- a stamp with small faults but perfect centering ... A-5 OK, now that makes more sense then trying to combine 2 different grade words together. Tracy Barber |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:40:28 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:39:38 GMT, (Tracy Barber) found these unused words floating about: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:36:18 GMT, Bob Ingraham wrote: What happened to VG -- which always struck me as being dumb in the extreme. What is "Very Good" about a stamp that has perfs cutting into the design? Some issues you can only find decent stamps like this. They would be considered VF. XF is free of the margin and commands a premium. Nah ... they're AVERAGE! Fine is just clear of the design, VF is well centered. The rest is 'sales garbage'. Harumph! Well, I never... :^P Tracy Barber |
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"Tracy Barber" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:40:28 -0700, J. A. Mc. wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:39:38 GMT, (Tracy Barber) found these unused words floating about: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:36:18 GMT, Bob Ingraham wrote: What happened to VG -- which always struck me as being dumb in the extreme. What is "Very Good" about a stamp that has perfs cutting into the design? Some issues you can only find decent stamps like this. They would be considered VF. XF is free of the margin and commands a premium. Nah ... they're AVERAGE! Fine is just clear of the design, VF is well centered. The rest is 'sales garbage'. Harumph! Well, I never... :^P Tracy Barber Yes, you did. I've seen the pictures. |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:44:29 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:06:14 GMT, (Tracy Barber) found these unused words floating about: On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:37:54 -0400, "Scott" wrote: "Tracy Barber" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:40:28 -0700, J. A. Mc. wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:39:38 GMT, (Tracy Barber) found these unused words floating about: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:36:18 GMT, Bob Ingraham wrote: What happened to VG -- which always struck me as being dumb in the extreme. What is "Very Good" about a stamp that has perfs cutting into the design? Some issues you can only find decent stamps like this. They would be considered VF. XF is free of the margin and commands a premium. Nah ... they're AVERAGE! Fine is just clear of the design, VF is well centered. The rest is 'sales garbage'. Harumph! Well, I never... :^P Tracy Barber Yes, you did. I've seen the pictures. Don't tell anyone, 'K? J.A. - Eh? Tracy Barber |
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