Perils of eBay

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:15:37 -0400 (EDT), (Herb F.)
wrote:

Sometimes you have to remind the person about feedback. Remember, they
do not owe you feedback, it is voluntary.

I usually followup a purchase or a sale with something like "I have just
submitted positive feedback, I hope you will do the same." Make it a
stock letter in memory and just send it after a successful deal.

I have bought over 500 items on eBay.
Most sellers will reciprocate feedback when I post mine for them.
A few sellers go ahead and post feedback first.
They usually get my repeat business.

Blair



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On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:02:20 -0400, TC found these
unused words floating about:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:15:37 -0400 (EDT), (Herb F.)
wrote:

Sometimes you have to remind the person about feedback. Remember, they
do not owe you feedback, it is voluntary.

I usually followup a purchase or a sale with something like "I have just
submitted positive feedback, I hope you will do the same." Make it a
stock letter in memory and just send it after a successful deal.

I have bought over 500 items on eBay.
Most sellers will reciprocate feedback when I post mine for them.
A few sellers go ahead and post feedback first.
They usually get my repeat business.

Blair

IMHO, a seller should post feedback when they receive the payment -
the buyer's done his/her/its part.

The buyer should post when they receive the stamps or item -and- it is
as represented. If there's a -real- problem, then after the seller
makes good and not in haste
..

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:24:37 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

IMHO, a seller should post feedback when they receive the payment -
the buyer's done his/her/its part.

The feedback is not just about payment. It's the whole transaction.
Getting paid is important, but it ain't over till it's over.




--
Tony Cooper aka:
Provider of Jots, Tittles, and Oy!s

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:51:38 -0400, Tony Cooper
found these unused words floating about:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:24:37 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

IMHO, a seller should post feedback when they receive the payment -
the buyer's done his/her/its part.

The feedback is not just about payment. It's the whole transaction.
Getting paid is important, but it ain't over till it's over.

That smacks of "As a seller I'll demand more than payment from a
buyer". What more do you want?

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:08:27 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:51:38 -0400, Tony Cooper
found these unused words floating about:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:24:37 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

IMHO, a seller should post feedback when they receive the payment -
the buyer's done his/her/its part.

The feedback is not just about payment. It's the whole transaction.
Getting paid is important, but it ain't over till it's over.

That smacks of "As a seller I'll demand more than payment from a
buyer". What more do you want?

I recently sold a 100+ year old stamp album. The ad stated the stamps
were canceled and glued in place - probably with mucilage - and the
binding of the book was not in the best shape. The Buyer paid by
PayPal. I'll wait a week or so before posting feedback to make sure
the Buyer actually read the ad and is not going to complain that he
thought he was buying an album of MNH 100 year old stamps. You think
that can't happen?

Stamp buyers are generally a little better to deal with since stamps
are listed with a scan, identified with a Scott (or other) number, and
usually identified with or without glue or hinging. A stamp buyer
usually pretty much knows what he'll be getting.

Most eBay stamp sales are low dollar, non-impulse purchases. The
Buyer is looking for something and found what he wants at a price he
is willing to pay. He's a different animal than the impulse shopper
that has sudden attacks of Buyer's Remorse and wants out of the
purchase of an expensive item he or she bought on impulse.

My comment about feedback encompasses all of eBay, and not just the
stamp category.

Even so, my one negative, and one neutral, are from one buyer of two
lots of stamps. I immediately gave him a positive feedback when the
check was received, and he used that in his emails to try to chisel an
adjustment out of me rather than accept a full refund. He felt he had
some kind of upper hand because he'd not yet filed feedback. From now
on, I'll wait.



--
Tony Cooper aka:
Provider of Jots, Tittles, and Oy!s

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 22:24:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:08:27 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:51:38 -0400, Tony Cooper
found these unused words floating about:

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:24:37 -0700, J. A. Mc.
wrote:

IMHO, a seller should post feedback when they receive the payment -
the buyer's done his/her/its part.

The feedback is not just about payment. It's the whole transaction.
Getting paid is important, but it ain't over till it's over.

That smacks of "As a seller I'll demand more than payment from a
buyer". What more do you want?

I recently sold a 100+ year old stamp album. The ad stated the stamps
were canceled and glued in place - probably with mucilage - and the
binding of the book was not in the best shape. The Buyer paid by
PayPal. I'll wait a week or so before posting feedback to make sure
the Buyer actually read the ad and is not going to complain that he
thought he was buying an album of MNH 100 year old stamps. You think
that can't happen?

Stamp buyers are generally a little better to deal with since stamps
are listed with a scan, identified with a Scott (or other) number, and
usually identified with or without glue or hinging. A stamp buyer
usually pretty much knows what he'll be getting.

Most eBay stamp sales are low dollar, non-impulse purchases. The
Buyer is looking for something and found what he wants at a price he
is willing to pay. He's a different animal than the impulse shopper
that has sudden attacks of Buyer's Remorse and wants out of the
purchase of an expensive item he or she bought on impulse.

My comment about feedback encompasses all of eBay, and not just the
stamp category.

Even so, my one negative, and one neutral, are from one buyer of two
lots of stamps. I immediately gave him a positive feedback when the
check was received, and he used that in his emails to try to chisel an
adjustment out of me rather than accept a full refund. He felt he had
some kind of upper hand because he'd not yet filed feedback. From now
on, I'll wait.

If not mistaken, I believe you can do a follow-up feedback. Please
check on this because in this instance you're being "taken" by posting
decent feedback immediately.

I usually post feedback immediately when receiving, depositing and
having someone's money for a lot. I should take into consideration
that the lot may never get there, get there damaged, the buyer may be
a cheat, etc...

Tracy Barber

"DBoyd001" wrote in message
...
I just stopped selling on eBay because more than half my buyers there
just
plain stiffed me. Never answered e-mail (one was returned as unknown),
never
paid, never anything.
snipped

Dave
Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail.
Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone.
Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect!

That's an incredibly high deadbeat percentage. Although I'm a relatively
new seller on ebay, I've sold about 125 lots over the last few months and
have yet to be stiffed. I'm sure it will happen to me eventually, but if
everyone experienced a bad sale rate of more than 50%, eBay wouldn't be
around much longer.

Tom McFarland

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:44:46 -0400, "Tom McFarland"
wrote:


"DBoyd001" wrote in message
...
I just stopped selling on eBay because more than half my buyers there
just
plain stiffed me. Never answered e-mail (one was returned as unknown),
never
paid, never anything.
snipped

Dave
Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail.
Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone.
Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect!

That's an incredibly high deadbeat percentage. Although I'm a relatively
new seller on ebay, I've sold about 125 lots over the last few months and
have yet to be stiffed. I'm sure it will happen to me eventually, but if
everyone experienced a bad sale rate of more than 50%, eBay wouldn't be
around much longer.

Knock on wood... Out of 450+ lots sold, only 8 have not been paid
for. 3 buyers. The same old, same old - playing games!

Tracy Barber

I just stopped selling on eBay because more than half my buyers there
just
plain stiffed me. Never answered e-mail (one was returned as unknown),
never
paid, never anything.
snipped

Dave
Use commemorative stamps on ALL your mail.
Introduce the hobby of collecting stamps to someone.
Above all, enjoy your hobby regardless of what you collect!

That's an incredibly high deadbeat percentage. Although I'm a relatively
new seller on ebay, I've sold about 125 lots over the last few months and
have yet to be stiffed. I'm sure it will happen to me eventually, but if
everyone experienced a bad sale rate of more than 50%, eBay wouldn't be
around much longer.

Knock on wood... Out of 450+ lots sold, only 8 have not been paid
for. 3 buyers. The same old, same old - playing games!

Tracy Barber


Well, I have not traded extensively on Ebay (yet) but 100% of
all 'wins' so far have gone through without any problems. For
most payments I use PayPal, and none have failed - yet!

I have traded with New York, Sweden, Norway, Germany,
Singapore, Australia and Canada.

David.

I feel that the seller should post feedback when he receives payment.
Any who do not will not get another bid from me.
..
I saw one seller who warned that he would only post feedback after the
buyer had received the lot and had posted positive feedback. I did not
bid on his lot figuring that he must be a problem seller who has more
trouble, possibly of his own making, than the average successful seller.
..
I consider the sellers feedback to be confirmation of receipt of the
payment and somewhat of a notice that the lot has been or will be
shortly mailed.
..
I also steer clear of sellers who post paragraph after paragraph of
detailed conditions and warnings. I feel that these guys have had lots
of problems in the past and that they cannot all be the fault of the
buyer.
..
Charlie Jensen


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