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HONG KONG 1 dollar 1866 falsification
Hi everyone!
Can anybody tell me if a lot of counterfeits exist of the Hong Kong 1866 1 dollar coin? If so, how can you distinguish the difference from a real one? Or can anyone tell me more about where these counterfeits come from? best regards, Peter Paul de Jong |
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Peter Paul de Jong wrote:
Hi everyone! Can anybody tell me if a lot of counterfeits exist of the Hong Kong 1866 1 dollar coin? If so, how can you distinguish the difference from a real one? Or can anyone tell me more about where these counterfeits come from? best regards, Peter Paul de Jong I must say that I have never come across a counterfeit of this particular coin. That is not to say they don't exist, just that if they do, they are not common (at least ...not yet!). The HK dollar is getting into the `specialist' field, and although it is not particularly difficult to get hold of one, people actively seeking them are likely to be able to determine whether or not they are the real McCoy. It is not a coin Ii would think that a counterfeiter is going to profit by manufacturing. There are far better coins to dabble with. Do you think that you might have a counterfeit? If so what is it about the coin that makes you doubt its authenticity? Something grab you as being `not quite right'? It's feel? appearance? density? If you have such a coin / counterfeit, I would really appreciate seeing a good quality scan of it. Ian |
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I wouldn't disagree at all with what you say. While it is always prudent
and good sense to check out any coin, (ie do not take it for granted as being genuine), I would suspect that most collectors of world crowns would spot a `fake' one quite readily, although with modern c/f's it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so if the coin isn't available for visual inspection. IMHO it is only collectors of world crowns that are likely to come across a real one of these. People who know what they are looking for and are on the lookout for them. They generally don't stay on the market for very long when they do appear....unless they are unreasonably priced. There will always be a problem with people who are out of their relative collector depth / knowledge being presented with a `once in a lifetime opportunity' such as a fake presented as being genuine and at `a price you can't (but should) refuse'. Ian TomDeLorey wrote: Because so many counterfeit coins are coming out of China these days, a Hong Kong dollar would be a good coin to be suspicious of. It doesn't matter how valuable a coin is; if they have an original, they will duplicate it. I have seen a counterfeit modern Swiss one franc piece that came out of a group of coins bought in the Orient. Tom DeLorey . Subject: HONG KONG 1 dollar 1866 falsification From: Ian Date: 4/24/2004 4:48 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Peter Paul de Jong wrote: Hi everyone! Can anybody tell me if a lot of counterfeits exist of the Hong Kong 1866 1 dollar coin? If so, how can you distinguish the difference from a real one? Or can anyone tell me more about where these counterfeits come from? best regards, Peter Paul de Jong I must say that I have never come across a counterfeit of this particular coin. That is not to say they don't exist, just that if they do, they are not common (at least ...not yet!). The HK dollar is getting into the `specialist' field, and although it is not particularly difficult to get hold of one, people actively seeking them are likely to be able to determine whether or not they are the real McCoy. It is not a coin Ii would think that a counterfeiter is going to profit by manufacturing. There are far better coins to dabble with. Do you think that you might have a counterfeit? If so what is it about the coin that makes you doubt its authenticity? Something grab you as being `not quite right'? It's feel? appearance? density? If you have such a coin / counterfeit, I would really appreciate seeing a good quality scan of it. Ian |
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At first look it didn't look suspicious to me. It's just that I bought it in
a coinshop in Madrid where I picked it out of a small basket with "genuine" coins. Such baskets where you pick silver crown size coins for 6 euros each. When I came home I checked it in the catalogue and saw the regular prices for these coins. The moment I notice a difference of 150 dollars in accordance to what I have paid, I get suspicious, even if the coin looks genuine. I don't believe in simple luck anymore.... In Spain you find a lot of falsifications on (flee)markets of crown sized 5 pesetas-coins but those you recognize very easily. I was just wondering if of this particular coin, falsifications were common. Peter Paul "Ian" schreef in bericht ... I wouldn't disagree at all with what you say. While it is always prudent and good sense to check out any coin, (ie do not take it for granted as being genuine), I would suspect that most collectors of world crowns would spot a `fake' one quite readily, although with modern c/f's it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so if the coin isn't available for visual inspection. IMHO it is only collectors of world crowns that are likely to come across a real one of these. People who know what they are looking for and are on the lookout for them. They generally don't stay on the market for very long when they do appear....unless they are unreasonably priced. There will always be a problem with people who are out of their relative collector depth / knowledge being presented with a `once in a lifetime opportunity' such as a fake presented as being genuine and at `a price you can't (but should) refuse'. Ian TomDeLorey wrote: Because so many counterfeit coins are coming out of China these days, a Hong Kong dollar would be a good coin to be suspicious of. It doesn't matter how valuable a coin is; if they have an original, they will duplicate it. I have seen a counterfeit modern Swiss one franc piece that came out of a group of coins bought in the Orient. Tom DeLorey . Subject: HONG KONG 1 dollar 1866 falsification From: Ian Date: 4/24/2004 4:48 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Peter Paul de Jong wrote: Hi everyone! Can anybody tell me if a lot of counterfeits exist of the Hong Kong 1866 1 dollar coin? If so, how can you distinguish the difference from a real one? Or can anyone tell me more about where these counterfeits come from? best regards, Peter Paul de Jong I must say that I have never come across a counterfeit of this particular coin. That is not to say they don't exist, just that if they do, they are not common (at least ...not yet!). The HK dollar is getting into the `specialist' field, and although it is not particularly difficult to get hold of one, people actively seeking them are likely to be able to determine whether or not they are the real McCoy. It is not a coin Ii would think that a counterfeiter is going to profit by manufacturing. There are far better coins to dabble with. Do you think that you might have a counterfeit? If so what is it about the coin that makes you doubt its authenticity? Something grab you as being `not quite right'? It's feel? appearance? density? If you have such a coin / counterfeit, I would really appreciate seeing a good quality scan of it. Ian |
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HONG KONG 1 dollar 1866 falsification
I have an obvious fake 1866 Hong Kong dollar.....the give away? Edward VIi on the reverse.....of course it should be Victoria.....also the bust of Edward is quite amateurish.
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HONG KONG 1 dollar 1866 falsification
Yes I have a fake..... The person responsible obviously didn't know his history.... Edward VII was not King until Victoria died .....
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