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Old September 19th 04, 07:45 AM
Rodney
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Default Peru query 2

Can someone translate the inscription please?
and perhaps offer a comment on the flag shown on the ship and frame.

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=477

One catalogue shows as "Packetboat" another "Gunboat"
I was unable to find any reference on the web to the "Sacramento"

Thanks



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Old September 19th 04, 09:23 AM
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in message ,
Rodney wrote:
Can someone translate the inscription please?
and perhaps offer a comment on the flag shown on the ship and frame.

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=477

One catalogue shows as "Packetboat" another "Gunboat"
I was unable to find any reference on the web to the "Sacramento"

Thanks


Rod, probably a packetboat "before" and a gunboat "after"...

There are some clues on the web actually. One is in english :
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Juan39/First_Years.html
"The origins of the Peruvian Navy go back to 1821, when it was
officially established by a decree issued by General Jose de San Martin.
Scottish-born Captain Jorge Martin Guise became its first Commander in
Chief while the Argentinean politician Bernardo Monteagudo was appointed
as the first War and Navy Minister of the new republic. The first
Peruvian warship was the Sacramento, which was captured from the
Spaniards on March 21, 1821 (1). Over the next months Peru incorporated
to its new squadron several warships and transports and renames them as
Balcarce, Belgrano, Limeña, Protector, Guayas, Spano, Macedonia,
Monteagudo and Cruz. They had a combined firepower of more than 170
guns. In 1826, five years after the declaration of independence, the
Navy was composed of seven warships: The flagship frigate Presidente,
the frigate Monteagudo, the corvettes Libertad and Limeña, the
brigantine Congreso and the schooners Peruviana and Arequipeña.
(1) The Carcamo brothers, Andres and Victoriano, seized the Sacramento
from the Spaniards. On July 7, 1821, the ship was commissioned in the
Peruvian Navy with a crew of 36 men under Lieutenant D. Joseph Wickham.
It was armed with one gun and renamed as Castelli in honor of
Argentinean politician Juan Jose Castelli. In her first naval action she
captured the Spanish brigantine Pezuela."

Another page, in spanish, says that the boat was postal before its
captu
http://www.marina.mil.pe/comandancia...d_escuadra.htm
"los hermanos Victoriano y Andrés Cárcamo habían capturado el pailebote
correo español Sacramento a la altura de Máncora, siendo allí "tomado
para la patria", y luego conducida a Paita"

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Kind regards,
Bruno

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Old September 19th 04, 10:43 AM
Rodney
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That's great Bruno,
thank you very much indeed.
Just what I needed.
Kudos to your search skills.

If you have any deep knowledge of Peru,
can you advise please. I have a strike from PIURA
that is not a cancellation or overprint.
Perhaps a Registration stamp.
It is on an 1907 issue so cannot be from the Departments.
(the piece is fairly grotty however)

Thanks again.


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Old September 20th 04, 06:34 AM
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"Rodney" wrote in message ...
That's great Bruno,
thank you very much indeed.
Just what I needed.
Kudos to your search skills.

If you have any deep knowledge of Peru,
can you advise please. I have a strike from PIURA
that is not a cancellation or overprint.
Perhaps a Registration stamp.
It is on an 1907 issue so cannot be from the Departments.
(the piece is fairly grotty however)

Thanks again.


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Rodney:

Piura is one of the most ancient colonial cities in Peru.

It was founded in 1532 and it has changed its location
three times but it finally arrived at its current location
in the North.

Piura is also the capital of the department with the same
name, where there are approximately 3,000,000 citizens.
Piura is an important commercial centre.

The cathedral of Piura was built in 1588 and here you will
find the altar covered with golden sheets and a painting
of the famous Ignacio Merino.

Piura is also a historical city because Miguel Grau, who
was a hero in the Pacific War, (1879 - 1888) was born there.

His house has been transformed into a museum, where you
will can a model of his warship.

GRAU, Miguel (graouw), Peruvian naval officer, born in
Piura in June, 1834; died at sea, 8 October, 1879.
He shipped on board a merchant vessel at the age of
ten years, and, after spending a short time at the
naval school of Callao, became, in 1852, a midshipman
in the Peruvian navy.

He joined in the revolt of 1856 against the government
of Castilla, and, on its suppression in 1858, returned
to the merchant service. He re-entered the navy in 1860,
was given command of the "Lersundi," and in 1865,
when the war with Spain began, had reached the rank
of captain. He took a distinguished part in the combat
of Abtao in October, and on 2 May, 1866, participated
in the defense of Callao against the Spanish bombardment,
in command of the monitor "Manco Capac." He afterward
took command of the turret-ship "Huascar."

In 1875 he was a deputy to congress, and a supporter
of the government of Manuel Pardo. He was appointed
director of the naval academy, and when the war against
Chili began, 5 April, 1879, held the rank of rear-admiral.

He at once joined the fleet, and took command of his
old ship, the "Huascar," and of the small Peruvian fleet.
On 21 May he attacked two small Chilean vessels off
Iquique with the "Huascar" and "Independencia," and
sank one of them, but the "Independencia" was disabled
by the other.

As this loss left the Peruvian fleet still more inferior
to the Chilean than before, Grau received orders to avoid
an engagement with the Chilean iron-clads, and, owing
to his superiority in speed, made a successful cruise
along the coast, seriously harassing the enemy.

At daybreak of 23 July, the "Huasear" and "Unidn"
captured, off Antofagasta, the powerful Chilean
transport-steamer "Rimac," with a cavalry regiment
of 300 on board. His successful depredations on the
coast caused the Chilean government to strain every
nerve for the capture of the "Huascar."

On 8 October, in thick, foggy weather, while
the Peruvian vessels were cruising near Antofagasta,
Grau was surprised and forced to a combat by
the Chilean fleet. Ordering the "Unidn" to part company,
and try by her superior speed to escape, he resolved
to fight his way through the enemy. Half an hour
after the beginning of the contest, a shell from
the "Cochrane" burst inside the "Huascar's" tower,
killing the admiral and his signal-officer.

Shortly afterward the other division of the Chilean
fleet came up, and, after an hour and a half of fighting,
the flag of the "Huascar" was lowered, 64 men out of 193
being killed.

After the war, the Peruvian nation erected a monument
to Grau in Lima.

Blair
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Old September 20th 04, 07:00 AM
Rodney
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Thank you Blair
and also for the Egyptian Seals info.
as usual very much appreciated.

Here is the gallant Admiral Grau,
and if I may say so, supporting an
(admirable) set of "Mutton Chops"

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=479


| GRAU, Miguel (graouw), Peruvian naval officer, born in
| Piura in June, 1834; died at sea, 8 October, 1879.
| He shipped on board a merchant vessel at the age of
| ten years, and, after spending a short time at the
| naval school of Callao, became, in 1852, a midshipman
| in the Peruvian navy.



 




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