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Newbie question: Postage due & special delivery stamps
Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to collecting stamps, and I was wondering if
there was any "easy" way to tell the difference between the "common" variety and the more valuable early versions of Postage due and Special Delivery stamps. I have the Scott 2000 specialized, but I'm afraid I just don't see any way to tell the difference. Thank you so much for any info! |
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"bakntime" wrote in message .. . Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to collecting stamps, and I was wondering if there was any "easy" way to tell the difference between the "common" variety and the more valuable early versions of Postage due and Special Delivery stamps. I have the Scott 2000 specialized, but I'm afraid I just don't see any way to tell the difference. For which country? Frank |
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From: "Frank Emanuel"
Organization: Bell Sympatico Reply-To: "Frank Emanuel" femanuel(at)sympatico(dot)ca Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:07:07 -0400 Subject: Newbie question: Postage due & special delivery stamps "bakntime" wrote in message .. . Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to collecting stamps, and I was wondering if there was any "easy" way to tell the difference between the "common" variety and the more valuable early versions of Postage due and Special Delivery stamps. I have the Scott 2000 specialized, but I'm afraid I just don't see any way to tell the difference. For which country? Frank Since the poster mentions the Scott Specialized catalogue, I assume he/she is discussing U.S.stamps. Does Scott published any other specialized catalogues? I'm not aware of any.... But we still need a lot more information. There are various lookalike special delivery and postage due stamp; we at least need to know the designs in question. I think the poster just isn't used to reding stamp catalogues, since I am not aware of any ambiguities in these issues. Bob |
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"Bob Ingraham" wrote in message ... From: "Frank Emanuel" Organization: Bell Sympatico Reply-To: "Frank Emanuel" femanuel(at)sympatico(dot)ca Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:07:07 -0400 Subject: Newbie question: Postage due & special delivery stamps "bakntime" wrote in message .. . Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to collecting stamps, and I was wondering if there was any "easy" way to tell the difference between the "common" variety and the more valuable early versions of Postage due and Special Delivery stamps. I have the Scott 2000 specialized, but I'm afraid I just don't see any way to tell the difference. For which country? Frank Since the poster mentions the Scott Specialized catalogue, I assume he/she is discussing U.S.stamps. Does Scott published any other specialized catalogues? I'm not aware of any.... But we still need a lot more information. There are various lookalike special delivery and postage due stamp; we at least need to know the designs in question. I think the poster just isn't used to reding stamp catalogues, since I am not aware of any ambiguities in these issues. Bob What about J1, J15,J22 for the 1 cent first issue postage due. The second issue postage due (1894-1917) has a number of varieties.I've been collecting US stamps for over 40 years and still find the US the hardest country to distinguish the watermarks. Among Special Deliveries, the varities mostly seem to involve perforations, which are easier to deal with (e.g. E9, E11), but the distinction between E9 and E10 again involves the watyermark. I think the newbie has a valid point. I still find Scott's US Specialized difficult to deal to use. |
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Bob Ingraham wrote:
From: "Frank Emanuel" Organization: Bell Sympatico Reply-To: "Frank Emanuel" femanuel(at)sympatico(dot)ca Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:07:07 -0400 Subject: Newbie question: Postage due & special delivery stamps "bakntime" wrote in message ... Hi everyone. I'm fairly new to collecting stamps, and I was wondering if there was any "easy" way to tell the difference between the "common" variety and the more valuable early versions of Postage due and Special Delivery stamps. I have the Scott 2000 specialized, but I'm afraid I just don't see any way to tell the difference. For which country? Frank Since the poster mentions the Scott Specialized catalogue, I assume he/she is discussing U.S.stamps. Does Scott published any other specialized catalogues? I'm not aware of any.... Actually, there is the "Scott Classic Specialized", covering world-wide stamps up to around 1940. [snip] |
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Hey, sorry for the limited info everyone... Here's more details...
They're US stamps. The ones I'm talking about are from 1930-31, Scott J69- J78 which were issued in 1930 using flat plate printing and the later rotary press issues of J79-J87. The Scott Specialized Catalogue (of US stamps & covers) says that the design is the same, but the values of the flat plate issues are much higher than the later rotary issues. The only difference I can tell is that the rotary issues are 19mm x 22.5mm, while the earlier ones are 19mm x 20mm. (This is due to the way they are printed, right?) And also the rotary ones are listed as "scarlet" in color while the flat plates are listed as "carmine"... It's basically that same deal with the Special Delivery stamps... The only difference is color and the extra 1/2 mm. Without anything to compare to, I can't really tell color differences, and I'm not so sure I can accurately measure a 1/2 a millimeter. I guess my question is how to tell the difference (if there is an "easy" way...) Thanks! |
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"bakntime" wrote in message . .. Hey, sorry for the limited info everyone... Here's more details... They're US stamps. The ones I'm talking about are from 1930-31, Scott J69- J78 which were issued in 1930 using flat plate printing and the later rotary press issues of J79-J87. The Scott Specialized Catalogue (of US stamps & covers) says that the design is the same, but the values of the flat plate issues are much higher than the later rotary issues. The only difference I can tell is that the rotary issues are 19mm x 22.5mm, while the earlier ones are 19mm x 20mm. (This is due to the way they are printed, right?) And also the rotary ones are listed as "scarlet" in color while the flat plates are listed as "carmine"... It's basically that same deal with the Special Delivery stamps... The only difference is color and the extra 1/2 mm. Without anything to compare to, I can't really tell color differences, and I'm not so sure I can accurately measure a 1/2 a millimeter. I guess my question is how to tell the difference (if there is an "easy" way...) Thanks! A good "hint" about flat and rotary press issues. Stamps produced on flat plates are usually very flat with no curl. Stamps produced on rotary presses are usually curled to a certain extent. Good examples of rotary stamps are most of the US 3 cent commemoratives. Notice the curl of the stamp. For flat plate you have to go back to certain issues that were printed only on flat plates to have an example. Once you have seen examples of both it becomes easier to identify them. The above was about mint stamps. For used stamps that have been pressed long and hard some times lose their curl. But still the final determining factor is always measuring size and perfs. Once you have worked with them a lot it becomes reasonably easy to determine whether flat or rotary. Good cheap stamps to have as a guide are both versions of Scott 737, the 3 cent Whistler's Mother commemorative. I hope that this will help a little. Happy stamping Jim McCain |
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"bakntime" wrote in message . .. snip Without anything to compare to, I can't really tell color differences, and I'm not so sure I can accurately measure a 1/2 a millimeter. I guess my question is how to tell the difference (if there is an "easy" way...) Thanks! The color differences can be a pain to figure out. And while 1/2 millimeter may be difficult to measure, too, I would recommend buying the Linn's multi-gauge, which is terrific for checking minor variations in perforations, and also has a millimeter edge which is very useful for many determinations which rely on this measurement. If you haven't seen what it looks like, you can check out this link: http://www.mcphilatelics.com/supplie...ultigauge.html (Note: I happened to pick this one at random and by posting the link I am neither promoting nor not promoting the seller.) Mike |
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Thanks Jim & Mike. I figured as much as far as needing a definite
reference to compare and perhaps a multigage. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing an "obvious" difference. I'm learning -Vito (bakntime) |
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