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Old June 12th 08, 02:30 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Default WHY WE MUST DRILL IN ANWR


"trippin-2-8-track" wrote in message
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TOP 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN ANWR

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ANWR will yield a total of the equivalent of 2 days of gas consumption
in the US.
Venezuela wants to send oil to the US but Bush says no.


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Old June 12th 08, 02:36 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On Jun 12, 4:20*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
TOP 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN ANWR
1. Only 8% of ANWR Would Be Considered for Exploration Only the 1.5
million acre or 8% on the northern coast of ANWR is being considered
for development. The remaining 17.5 million acres or 92% of ANWR will
remain permanently closed to any kind of development. If oil is
discovered, less than 2000 acres of the over 1.5 million acres of the
Coastal Plain would be affected. That¹s less than half of one percent
of ANWR that would be affected by production activity.

2. Revenues to the State and Federal Treasury Federal revenues would
be enhanced by billions of dollars from bonus bids, lease rentals,
royalties and taxes. Estimates on bonus bids for ANWR by the Office of
Management and Budget and the Department of Interior for the first 5
years after Congressional approval are $4.2 billion. *Royalty and tax
estimates for the life of the 10-02 fields were estimated by the
Office of Management and Budget from *$152-237 billion.

3. Jobs To Be Created Between 250,000 and 735,000 ANWR jobs are
estimated to be created by development of the Coastal Plain.

4. Economic Impact Between 1977 and 2004, North Slope oil field
development and production activity contributed over $50 billion to
the nations economy, directly impacting each state in the union.

5. America's Best Chance for a Major Discovery The Coastal Plain of
ANWR is America's best possibility for the discovery of another giant
"Prudhoe Bay-sized" oil and gas discovery in North America. U.S.
Department of Interior estimates range from 9 to 16 billion barrels of
recoverable oil.

6. North Slope Production in Decline The North Slope oil fields
currently provide the U.S. with nearly 16% of it's domestic production
and since 1988 this production has been on the decline. Peak
production was reached in 1980 of two million barrels a day, but has
been declining to a current level of 731,000 barrels a day.

7. Imported Oil Too Costly In 2007, the US imported an average of 60%
of its oil and during certain months up to 64%. That equates to over
$330 billion in oil imports. That’s $37.75 million per hour gone out
of our economy! *Factor in the cost to defend our imported oil, and
the costs in jobs and industry sent abroad, the total would be nearly
a trillion dollars.

8. No Negative Impact on Animals Oil and gas development and wildlife
are successfully coexisting in Alaska 's arctic. For example, the
Central Arctic Caribou Herd (CACH) which migrates through Prudhoe Bay
has grown from 3000 animals to its current level of 32,000 animals.
The arctic oil fields have very healthy brown bear, fox and bird
populations equal to their surrounding areas.

9. Arctic Technology Advanced technology has greatly reduced the
'footprint" of arctic oil development. If Prudhoe Bay were built
today, the footprint would be 1,526 acres, 64% smaller.

10. Alaskans Support More than 75% of Alaskans favor exploration and
production in ANWR. The democratically elected Alaska State
Legislatures, congressional delegations, and Governors elected over
the past 25 years have unanimously supported opening the Coastal Plain
of ANWR. *The Inupiat Eskimos who live in and near ANWR support
onshore oil development on the Coastal Plain.

In general, the Republicans, Alaskans, some unions that see job gains,
and some native tribes that will profit from the drilling have come
out in favor . *Numbers are bandied about - those for drilling say
that there is 30 years-worth of Saudi imports of oil available, and
that drilling will enhance the national security and lessen dependence
on imported oil (especially from the volatile Middle East.)

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/w...170983,00.html

Some Shaky Figures on ANWR Drilling

Monday, Aug. 13, 2001 By DOUGLAS WALLER Article

Congress loves to play fast and loose with numbers, particularly when
one side or the other is using them to justify a bill. Two such cases
came earlier this month, when the House approved oil drilling in
Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. There are a total of 19
million acres in the refuge, and in 1980 Congress set aside 1.5
million of them along a strip of the refuge's northern Arctic Ocean
coast for possible oil exploration. Oil companies and Alaska's
congressional delegation have been anxious ever since to start
drilling there. The oil companies believe 5 to 16 billion barrels of
oil could be recovered there, while Alaskans are eager for the revenue
that exploration would generate for their state. Environmentalists and
most congressional Democrats have resisted drilling in the area
because the required network of oil platforms, pipelines, roads and
support facilities, not to mention the threat of foul spills, would
play havoc on wildlife. The coastal plain, for example, is a calving
home for some 129,000 caribou.

With U.S production at nearly a 50-year low and oil reserves in this
country shrinking, George Bush has made ANWR's development a key part
of his energy package. The House finally decided to approve drilling
in the refuge, largely on the promise of two important numbers. First,
to calm moderates in his party, Republican Congressman John Sununu of
New Hampshire tacked an amendment to the energy bill limiting the
drilling to just 2,000 of the 1.5 million acres along the coast plain.
Then, the Teamsters muscled 36 Democrats into voting for the drilling,
claiming it would create over 700,000 jobs.

Wow! An oil field only one-fifth the size of Washington's Dulles
International Airport that'd provide more jobs than there are working
men and women in Wyoming and Rhode Island? And would lower the
nation's unemployment rate by a half percent? Sounds too good to be
true.

It may be. Turns out the 2,000 acres don't have to be contiguous and
only the space of the equipment touching the ground is counted. Each
drilling platform can take up as little as 10 acres. The pipelines are
above ground. For space purposes, the amendment counts only the ground
touched by the stanchions holding up the pipe. Road widths also are
conveniently left out of the space limit. "It's a complete sham,"
complains Allen Mattison, a spokesman for the Sierra Club which
opposes drilling. "It's like a fishing net. If you count just the
space of the string's width, that's small. But if you open up a
fishing net and count the area it covers, that's much larger."
Environmentalists complain that the House limit ends up allowing oil
companies to spread out over practically the entire 1.5 million
acres.

As for the 700,000 jobs, that number comes from an 11-year-old study
commissioned by the American Petroleum Institute that economists
complain wildly inflates the employment potential. "It's just absurd,"
says Eban Goodstein, an economist at Lewis and Clark College, who
predicts the real job growth will be less than one-tenth that number.

But the oil industry is sticking by the figures. "We're confident we
can develop the resources that are at ANWR without an impact on the
wildlife that lives there," insists Mark Rubin, general manager for
exploration and production with the American Petroleum Institute. For
his part, Sununu complains that it wouldn't matter what number he had
put in his amendment. Drilling opponents "don't support any
disturbance of any land for any economic activity related to energy in
the 19 million acres of ANWR," he says. "They think that 2,000 acres
is too much. They think 200 acres is too much and they think two acres
would be too much."

Democrats who control the Senate vow that legislation permitting ANWR
drilling will never see the light of day in that chamber. The oil
industry and the Teamsters, however, hope they can change some minds
once more — with the same numbers that worked in the House.


Drilling in ANWR is stupid.. but maybe not as stupid as you.
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Old June 12th 08, 02:48 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Drilling in ANWR is stupid.. but maybe not as stupid as you.- Hide quoted text -

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this from the party that nominated Obama....

left-wing Muslim extremist and anti-American

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Old June 12th 08, 02:50 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Why do republicans block drilling in ANWR and other places in America? While
the republicans had majority control of both the house and senate they
insisted on voting against drilling in ANWR. Why do they now try to blame
the democrats for blocking opening ANWR for so long? If ANWR was opened
years ago we might not have the high prices we have today. When will the
right stop lying and distorting their real agenda of wanting Americans to
pay more for oil and gas?




BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!! whata dumb ass you are

so that means then, because the Dems have majorities in both houses
NOW, then we can drill in ANWR with no problems or obstacles in
Congress, right ?
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Old June 12th 08, 02:55 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On Jun 12, 6:50*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
Why do republicans block drilling in ANWR and other places in America? While
the republicans had majority control of both the house and senate they
insisted on voting against drilling in ANWR. Why do they now try to blame
the democrats for blocking opening ANWR for so long? If ANWR was opened
years ago we might not have the high prices we have today. When will the
right stop lying and distorting their real agenda of wanting Americans to
pay more for oil and gas?


BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!! * whata dumb ass you are

so that means then, because the Dems have majorities in both houses
NOW, then we can drill in ANWR with no problems or obstacles in
Congress, right ?


Hi, punk. Let me tell you about what made you a retard. All the
emissions are causing acid buildups, relative to C02 and exchanges.
The Sudden Oak Death happens over emissions. So did YOUR BIRTH
DEFECTS, includiing your Reagan-Catholic stupidity and media
tendencies, to shove and bend over, inviting something.

You have to eat a lot of pesticides, which puts all kinds of cancer,
in your women. You have NO CHANCE, at having a brain. Autism and
diabetes are rampant. And, you are UGLY.

Tell you WHAT. Try talking to people on the street, queenie. See if
you get to talk on the street, like you do it, here, in Summer, 2008.
You won't last a minute.

We should be at 100 ppm C02. We are at 240+ ppm, headed for 400 ppm,
while queens like YOU want to burn all the coal in your chutes, which
if we do ONLY in Pennsylvania causes 600 ppm C02, which will dissolve
ALL THE BEES, right down to their knees, algae will pop, in the
oceans, in DEAD CURRENTS. The sea level will rise, so if you are in
a
BAY AREA, you have to learn to swim.

IF IT IS A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN, DON'T GET IT PREGNANT.


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Old June 12th 08, 03:42 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Default WHY WE MUST DRILL IN ANWR

poor, poor Bush wrote:

"trippin-2-8-track" wrote in message
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TOP 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN ANWR

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ANWR will yield a total of the equivalent of 2 days of gas consumption
in the US.


That's completely false.

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Old June 12th 08, 03:53 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Default WHY WE MUST DRILL IN ANWR

Vandar wrote:
poor, poor Bush wrote:

"trippin-2-8-track" wrote in message
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TOP 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN ANWR

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ANWR will yield a total of the equivalent of 2 days of gas consumption
in the US.


That's completely false.

Correct, it is closer to 6 months and there are no guarantee it would
stay in the U.S.
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Old June 12th 08, 04:11 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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"trippin-2-8-track" wrote in
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Why do republicans block drilling in ANWR and other
places in America? While the republicans had majority
control of both the house and senate they insisted on
voting against drilling in ANWR. Why do they now try to
blame the democrats for blocking opening ANWR for so
long? If ANWR was opened years ago we might not have the
high prices we have today. When will the right stop
lying and distorting their real agenda of wanting
Americans to pay more for oil and gas?




BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!! whata dumb ass you are

so that means then, because the Dems have majorities in
both houses NOW, then we can drill in ANWR with no
problems or obstacles in Congress, right ?


What is means is that you dumber than stone RightTards are unable to
explain why they have been unable to pass a bill of your own that has not
been blocked by yourselves. Now if being unable to even understand why that
is than I guess it is you that is the dumb ass. hey?

When you can explain why the right have been the party of lies, deception
and obstruction then we can move on to showing you how stupid you actually
are.

Put your explanation right he
Crickets......................




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Old June 13th 08, 02:48 AM posted to alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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Default Congress SHOOTS DOWN global warming and oil company tax bills

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:12:25 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote:

ANWR holds a 30 year supply of oil at current useage rates. snip


You really ARE delusional, aren't you? You're beginning to show signs
of schizophrenia, you know.

whether or not it's worth getting from a profit standpoint, is not
your decision to make snip


It's Congress'...and Congress is now a DEMOCRATIC institution...and
will be for the next 50 years, thanks to morons like you and your
hero, Bush Bird.
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Old June 13th 08, 02:50 AM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.collecting.8-track-tapes
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:08:24 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote:

how 'bout you getting back to a job after sucking SSI fraudulently for
15 years ? snip


What SSI? Another paranoid delusion of yours? Obviously.

Hey Noodles! I can still sell my house here and buy FIVE or MORE on
Bear Run Drive! How's it feel to live in a cracker box that's worth
less than a mobile home?
 




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