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Old March 19th 09, 10:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Reserve prices.


http://cjoint.com/data/dvqFng0R2s.htm

$150.00
1922 10/- grey & pale aniline pink kangaroo in unused condition (mint
without gum). The lower left corner section of perforation has been neatly
reattached by a sliver of stamp hinge on reverse. Very cleverly done & not
apparent from the front unless highlighted. Save $100's with this fresh
example. SG 43b

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http://cjoint.com/data/dvqHCTeMwT.htm

$250.00

1916 ?1 chocolate & dull blue kangaroo with the 8mm Telegraph Puncture
variety. Fine used with

lovely colour. SG 44var.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqJgIQLS2.htm

$550.00

1919 ?1 bistre-brown & bright blue kangaroo very fine used by neat 18 Oct 20
Queensland cds. An expertly added perforation on the lower left corner is
difficult to see, but gives the benefit of a low starting estimate on a
stamp that would retail at $2200+. SG 44b



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Old March 20th 09, 09:14 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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On Mar 19, 6:53*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Reserve prices.

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqFng0R2s.htm

$150.00
1922 10/- grey & pale aniline pink kangaroo in unused condition (mint
without gum). The lower left corner section of perforation has been neatly
reattached by a sliver of stamp hinge on reverse. Very cleverly done & not
apparent from the front unless highlighted. Save $100's with this fresh
example. SG 43b

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqHCTeMwT.htm

$250.00

1916 ?1 chocolate & dull blue kangaroo with the 8mm Telegraph Puncture
variety. Fine used with

lovely colour. SG 44var.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqJgIQLS2.htm

$550.00

1919 ?1 bistre-brown & bright blue kangaroo very fine used by neat 18 Oct 20
Queensland cds. An expertly added perforation on the lower left corner is
difficult to see, but gives the benefit of a low starting estimate on a
stamp that would retail at $2200+. SG 44b




Yes, that might apply to stamps that regularly sell for over $2000 ,
but how many of those are in your, my, or anyone else here's
collection?
Not too many, I would venture.

The point is that every rule there are some exceptions.

Of all the stamps ever issued, the majority catalogue in at minimum
value.
In the case of Scott, that is 20 cents and replacement copies can be
had
for 5 or 10 cents each.

In such cases, replacing torn and otherwise damaged specimens, would
cost very little money and make the collection look a lot better.

What I have advised beginning collectors is to collect the best
condition
possible at a price they can afford. It is fine to include a "space
filler"
until a better copy comes along. Today, a scan of a good copy can
also
be used as a space filler until the appropriate stamp is found.

Blair



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Old March 20th 09, 10:03 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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A fair argument,
however, one needs to attach the advice to the time of issue.
If the collectors in 1913 had thrown out the ripped and torn
we would have been deprived of these beauties.


"Blair"
Yes, that might apply to stamps that regularly sell for over $2000 ,
but how many of those are in your, my, or anyone else here's
collection?
Not too many, I would venture.

The point is that every rule there are some exceptions.

Of all the stamps ever issued, the majority catalogue in at minimum
value.
In the case of Scott, that is 20 cents and replacement copies can be
had
for 5 or 10 cents each.

In such cases, replacing torn and otherwise damaged specimens, would
cost very little money and make the collection look a lot better.

What I have advised beginning collectors is to collect the best
condition
possible at a price they can afford. It is fine to include a "space
filler"
until a better copy comes along. Today, a scan of a good copy can
also
be used as a space filler until the appropriate stamp is found.

Blair




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Old March 20th 09, 12:19 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Peter Baumann[_2_]
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Blair schrieb:
On Mar 19, 6:53 pm, "rodney" wrote:
Reserve prices.

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqFng0R2s.htm

$150.00
1922 10/- grey & pale aniline pink kangaroo in unused condition (mint
without gum). The lower left corner section of perforation has been neatly
reattached by a sliver of stamp hinge on reverse. Very cleverly done & not
apparent from the front unless highlighted. Save $100's with this fresh
example. SG 43b

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqHCTeMwT.htm

$250.00

1916 ?1 chocolate & dull blue kangaroo with the 8mm Telegraph Puncture
variety. Fine used with

lovely colour. SG 44var.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://cjoint.com/data/dvqJgIQLS2.htm

$550.00

1919 ?1 bistre-brown & bright blue kangaroo very fine used by neat 18 Oct 20
Queensland cds. An expertly added perforation on the lower left corner is
difficult to see, but gives the benefit of a low starting estimate on a
stamp that would retail at $2200+. SG 44b




Yes, that might apply to stamps that regularly sell for over $2000 ,
but how many of those are in your, my, or anyone else here's
collection?
Not too many, I would venture.

The point is that every rule there are some exceptions.

Of all the stamps ever issued, the majority catalogue in at minimum
value.
In the case of Scott, that is 20 cents and replacement copies can be
had
for 5 or 10 cents each.

In such cases, replacing torn and otherwise damaged specimens, would
cost very little money and make the collection look a lot better.

What I have advised beginning collectors is to collect the best
condition
possible at a price they can afford. It is fine to include a "space
filler"
until a better copy comes along. Today, a scan of a good copy can
also
be used as a space filler until the appropriate stamp is found.

Blair



I would rather say NOT to vaste any money on "spacefillers", but to save
the money until you can afford to buy a sound coppy in affordable condition.

Peter

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Old March 24th 09, 03:14 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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I did not waste money on the San Marino stamp illustrated
at http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/stamps/sm20l.jpg
but I think despite the missing corner 8-( it makes a better
class of spacefiller!

The stamp (Sassone 158) catalogues at 450 euro...
what a pity the post office clerk tore the stamp before
attaching it to the letter.

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Old March 24th 09, 09:41 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Nice stamp Tony,
why did you opt not to soak off the paper?
for my electronic album, I would need to
add the corner via manipulation.
Victor Manta is the expert at that.

"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
...
I did not waste money on the San Marino stamp illustrated
at http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/stamps/sm20l.jpg
but I think despite the missing corner 8-( it makes a better
class of spacefiller!

The stamp (Sassone 158) catalogues at 450 euro...
what a pity the post office clerk tore the stamp before
attaching it to the letter.

--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK :
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
... No man is an island. But some of us have long peninsulas.



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Old March 24th 09, 10:50 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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In a recent message "rodney" wrote:


Nice stamp Tony,
why did you opt not to soak off the paper?


I feel that the torn corner would be far more obvious
in that case! I have several others in the set on
similar (but not identical) paper and postmarks, so I think
it was a genuine non-philatelic use.

for my electronic album, I would need to
add the corner via manipulation.
Victor Manta is the expert at that.


Compare with http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/stamps/sm20la.jpg

It shows how 'improved' an image can be...

"Tony Clayton" wrote in message
...
I did not waste money on the San Marino stamp illustrated
at http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/stamps/sm20l.jpg
but I think despite the missing corner 8-( it makes a better
class of spacefiller!

The stamp (Sassone 158) catalogues at 450 euro...
what a pity the post office clerk tore the stamp before
attaching it to the letter.



--
Tony Clayton
Coins of the UK :
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS on an Acorn Strong Arm RiscPC
.... Today is cancelled due to lack of interest!
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Old March 20th 09, 03:56 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Bill Sharpe
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Blair wrote:

What I have advised beginning collectors is to collect the best
condition
possible at a price they can afford. It is fine to include a "space
filler"
until a better copy comes along. Today, a scan of a good copy can
also
be used as a space filler until the appropriate stamp is found.

It offends me to even think about putting a scanned stamp image on my
album page. Damaged or poorly centered space fillers are fine, just as
long as they are really stamps.

Bill
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Old March 21st 09, 12:42 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
rodney
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Interesting to observe the passion about behaviour.
I don't think I could put a scanned image on an album page either,
however I certainly have them in my stockbooks.
Some people collect stamps as a physical discipline, and put huge
importance on centreing and so on, I collect more with the interest
on social history.
Of course I would prefer a better centred stamp to fit a set, but would
opt to spend the money on a poorer stamp of a country I was still
collecting.
It's just the ying and yang of collecting.

I find it a tremendous assistance to have scans in my stockbooks, mainly
of auction catalogued issues with their reserves, of stamps that I may or
may not
come across, it keeps information "at hand".

"Bill Sharpe"
It offends me to even think about putting a scanned stamp image on my
album page. Damaged or poorly centered space fillers are fine, just as
long as they are really stamps.

Bill



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Old April 6th 09, 08:40 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
joshuamcgee
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On Mar 20, 5:42*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Interesting to observe the passion about behaviour.
I don't think I could put a scanned image on an album page either,
however I certainly have them in my stockbooks.


Again, to each his own. I would be very uncomfortable with a scan on
an album page. But would I be as uncomfortable with an image PRINTED
on the album page? No. Goes to show.

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