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Old May 25th 06, 08:13 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Tony:

The Armed Forces of Switzerland is a unique institution
somewhere between a militia and a regular army. It is
equipped with mostly modern, sophisticated, and well
maintained weapons systems and equipment.

Naval Patrol
Being landlocked, Switzerland does not have a navy,
but they do maintain a fleet of military patrol boats,
numbering 18 in 1994. They patrol the Swiss border lakes
- Lake Geneva, Lake Maggiore and Lake Constance.
These boats are sometimes humorously referred to
as the "Swiss Navy".

Merchant Marine of Switzerland
Somewhat unusually for a landlocked country, Switzerland
has a long tradition of civilian navigation, both on its lakes
and rivers, and on the high seas.

Swiss inland navigation
The Rhine port of Basel connects Switzerland to the port
of Rotterdam and thus to the sea trade network. Swiss
industry and commerce rely on this connection, exploited
for centuries by Swiss Rhine barges, for a substantial part
of their imports and exports.

The Swiss lakes, most notably Lake Constance, Lake
Maggiore and Lake Geneva, are among the most intensively
navigated lakes in the world, mostly for recreational and
touristic purposes.

Swiss high seas fleet
Switzerland has a civilian high seas fleet of merchant
vessels, whose home port is Genoa, in Italy.

The first ships were purchased and operated by the
government in order to ensure the supply of critical
resources during World War II.

After the war, a privately owned merchant fleet
emerged, spurred in part by government subsidies
that paid for the fleet's operation up until 1953.

As of 2006, 26 ships (mostly container carriers)
totalling 479,624 tons, operated by five shipping
companies, fly the Swiss flag.

Shipping companies
ABC Maritime AG
Enzian Shipping AG
Massoel Gestion SA
Reederei Zürich AG
Suisse-Atlantique Société de Navigation Maritime SA

Swiss naval trivia
There has been at least one "Swiss" warship:
the American Civil War steamer USS Switzerland.
http://members.fortunecity.com/thegu...witzerland.gif

Blair

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Old May 26th 06, 12:54 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Blair, thanks a lot for a very detailed post about all things maritime in
Switzerland.

Tony

"Blair (TC)" wrote in message
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Tony:

The Armed Forces of Switzerland is a unique institution
somewhere between a militia and a regular army. It is
equipped with mostly modern, sophisticated, and well
maintained weapons systems and equipment.

Naval Patrol
Being landlocked, Switzerland does not have a navy,
but they do maintain a fleet of military patrol boats,
numbering 18 in 1994. They patrol the Swiss border lakes
- Lake Geneva, Lake Maggiore and Lake Constance.
These boats are sometimes humorously referred to
as the "Swiss Navy".

Merchant Marine of Switzerland
Somewhat unusually for a landlocked country, Switzerland
has a long tradition of civilian navigation, both on its lakes
and rivers, and on the high seas.

Swiss inland navigation
The Rhine port of Basel connects Switzerland to the port
of Rotterdam and thus to the sea trade network. Swiss
industry and commerce rely on this connection, exploited
for centuries by Swiss Rhine barges, for a substantial part
of their imports and exports.

The Swiss lakes, most notably Lake Constance, Lake
Maggiore and Lake Geneva, are among the most intensively
navigated lakes in the world, mostly for recreational and
touristic purposes.

Swiss high seas fleet
Switzerland has a civilian high seas fleet of merchant
vessels, whose home port is Genoa, in Italy.

The first ships were purchased and operated by the
government in order to ensure the supply of critical
resources during World War II.

After the war, a privately owned merchant fleet
emerged, spurred in part by government subsidies
that paid for the fleet's operation up until 1953.

As of 2006, 26 ships (mostly container carriers)
totalling 479,624 tons, operated by five shipping
companies, fly the Swiss flag.

Shipping companies
ABC Maritime AG
Enzian Shipping AG
Massoel Gestion SA
Reederei Zürich AG
Suisse-Atlantique Société de Navigation Maritime SA

Swiss naval trivia
There has been at least one "Swiss" warship:
the American Civil War steamer USS Switzerland.
http://members.fortunecity.com/thegu...witzerland.gif

Blair



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Old May 26th 06, 10:31 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Thanks for the links, Blair!

Dag T. Hoelseth
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Old May 26th 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Blair (TC)" skrev i melding
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Tony:

Serbia and Montenegro had both shared and then
their own stamps.

The Serbs used Dinars while Montenegro used
Euros.

The dual stamps were denominated in BOTH
currencies.


Thanks for your explanation. But I while I have now seen stamps issued by
the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro as well as of the Republic of
Montenegro, I still haven't come across any stamps issued by the Serbia (I
am of course not talking about pre-WW1 here). Any examples?

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http://www.geocities.com/dagtho/



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Old May 27th 06, 02:36 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Hi,

as far as I know only the stamps from Ex-Yugoslavia with inscription
"Serbia Montenegro" are valid for international postage. There are also
stamps with inscription "Montenegro" (you can see them on
http://www.posta.cg.yu/eng/marke.php). But they started issuing stamps
end of 2005, so until now I have not seen yet any covers with them. I
have also older stamps from Montenegro (after 2002), but I think they
are only obligatory stamps, valid only in Montenegro itself. And then I
have also a stamp with inscription "Serbia". It is from 2000, the
design is similar to Yugoslavian stamps during that time, but it seems
that it is also an obligatory stamp. It is not listed in MICHEL and I
do not have any further information. You can see the stamp on
http://de.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mps...nm=6167re2.jpg.
Maybe you have some information.

Regards from Germany
Manuel

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Old May 27th 06, 08:38 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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I believe these are "obligatory" revenue stamps for Serbia only
and paid a postal tax but NOT postage charges. They were
used during a specific period in addition to regular postage.
The stamp was sold to raise contributions "for the church
of St. Sava on Vracar Hill"

==================================================
Here is what I wrote in RCSD a couple of years ago about this stamp.
==================================================

Serbia issued a 8 dinar stamp of St Sava
(It appears to be for Serbian use only)
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MSvSava1.jpg


It came with a label similar to your item.
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MSvSava2.jpg


The Serbian PO lists this as a DOPLATNA MARKA.
As far as I can see, it was used from
01 DEC (2003?) until MAY 10 (2004?)


If similar to Czech stamps, this would make it
a POSTAGE DUE stamp or at least a (postal?) TAX stamp.


A similar DOPLATNA MARKA was issued for use between
12 MAY and 13 AUGUST 2004.
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MAtina2004.jpg


Finally, there is a REGULAR stamp issue of two stamps,
(I believe issurd 10 May). The values a
16 D/Euro 0,25 http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MarHram1.jpg
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/CMHram1.jpg


and


28,70D/Euro 0,50 http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MarHram2.jpg
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/CMHram2.jpg


These are properly inscribed for Serbia + Montenegro and
are valid for postage in both.


So yours looks like a postal tax stamp for Serbia.


Here is the news release in case someone here reads Serbian:


=============


Nova doplatna marka za Hram Svetog Save


Uredbom Vlade Republike Srbije uvedena je, 1. decembra prošle godine,
doplatna marka za Hram Svetog Save. S obzirom na činjenicu da je
kompletan odštampani tiraž već rasprodat, a da je važnost
Uredbe
do 10. maja, na inicijativu Srpske pravoslavne crkve, umesto prostog
doštampavanja tiraža, kreirana je nova doplatna marka koju je, kao i
prethodnu,štampao Zavod za izradu novčanica, tehnikom višebojnog

ofseta, zupčanje češljasto 13 Ľ, a likovno rešenje
izradili
su Radomir Bojanić, akademski slikar i Nadežda
Skočajić, grafički dizajner iz Beograda, kreatori
maraka DP ,,Jugomarka".
Tiraž ove doplatne marke je 150 000 primeraka, a u poštama se
distribuira u tabačićima od po osam komada plus vinjeta, na
kojoj je prikazan hram Svetog Save na Vračaru.
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MSvSava1.jpg
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MSvSava2.jpg


Nova doplatna marka


Uredbom Vlade Republike Srbije, od 12. maja do 13. avgusta ove godine
biće u upotrebi doplatna marka, nominalne vrednosti 8 dinara, od
koje je prihod namenjen za pripremu naših sportista, učesnika
Olimpijskih igara u Atini ove godine. Motiv na marki, koju je likovno
rešio Radomir Bojanić, akademski slikar iz Beograda jesu
akropoljske ruševine u pozadini, ispred kojih se nalaze prizor sa
modernih i antičkih olimpijskih igara u jednom, odnosno drugom
krugu u uglu marke, sa natpisom ,,Atina 2004" i grbom Jugoslovenskog
olimpijskog komiteta. Marka je realizovana tehnikom višebojnog ofseta
u Zavodu za izradu novčanica u Beogradu, a tokom tri meseca
njenog važenja poštama u Srbiji iCrnoj Gori biće distribuirana u

mesečnim tiražima od po tri miliona primeraka.
http://www.posta.co.yu/slike/MAtina2004.jpg


==============


I hope this is helpful.


Blair Stannard (TC)

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Old May 30th 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Thanks to both Manuel and Blair for more information on Serbia and
Montenegro. I am impressed by how much you know or manage to find out!

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Dag T. Hoelseth

http://www.geocities.com/dagtho/



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Old June 1st 06, 12:53 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Dag T. Hoelseth wrote:
"Blair (TC)" skrev i melding
ups.com...
Tony:

Serbia and Montenegro had both shared and then
their own stamps.

The Serbs used Dinars while Montenegro used
Euros.

The dual stamps were denominated in BOTH
currencies.


Thanks for your explanation. But I while I have now seen stamps issued by
the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro as well as of the Republic of
Montenegro, I still haven't come across any stamps issued by the Serbia (I
am of course not talking about pre-WW1 here). Any examples?

--
Dag T. Hoelseth

http://www.geocities.com/dagtho/


============================================

Dag:

I expect that they will use up the Serbia + Montenegro stamps
that are in stock. This will give them time to design and print
new issues.

Montenegro had a vested interest in issuing its own stamps.
(ie the vote for independence)

Blair

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Old June 15th 06, 05:02 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Hi,

maybe somebody is still interested in this topic. Some time ago I
ordered some stam,ps from the Montenergo Post homepage. Last week I got
the sending- Unfortunately the letter was not franked. Instead of this
it had a meter cancelation - not with inscription Crna Gora, but the
old name Jugoslavia. But maybe I will find in the next time a cover
franked with stamps from Montenegro.

Regards
Manuel


Blair (TC) schrieb:

The Serbian PTT website is found in English at
http://www.posta.co.yu/english/

or in Serbian at:
http://www.posta.co.yu/

Under philately, they only show the 2005 Stamp Programme
(ie Serbia and Montenegro)

The only stamps that they show on the web site are joint issues.

Blair


 




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